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Old 28-12-2012, 01:22
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Shake N' Bake Safly?

I don't know much about meth making but it's my understanding that the only danger in making meth is that the presure in the bottle can get to high and explode. Does not a device exist that would let you mix your shit safely. Like some sort of pressure release thing I'm sure such a thing exists and it's all scientifically expensive so what's the name of such a device. Also what would be an alternative thing to cook in that's not sciency?

*Tool notice* What I'm looking for would be considered: a scientific apparatus with a built in pressure regulatory system.

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You must post in the correct forum, Chemistry belongs in the chemistry forum.

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Old 28-12-2012, 01:35
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Re: Shake N' Bake Safly?

I highly recommend you refrain from cooking meth. It does take a slight degree of "sciencyness" to do without blowing up all your fancy "scientificly expencive devices". Repeat, please do not attempt to cook methamphetamine. I am frankly kind of frightened that you are even trying to learn based on your above post.

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great harm reduction advice, seriously it's not worth the burns
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Old 28-12-2012, 01:48
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Re: Shake N' Bake Safly?

Harm reduction and what not is all fine and dandy but not conducive to the OP. If the drug war has shown us anything it's that telling someone not to do something doesn't stop them and that teaching them the right way to do the "wrong" thing ends up being best for everyone. In other words name the sciency contraption a person would require or GTFO. (Of course not meant to be offensive nor a personal attack)

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You bring up some good points about the drug war
good point and sounds like you are trying to minimise harm
Telling someone to give you the information you want or "Get the Fuck Out" cannot be excused by then claiming it isn't meant to be offensive. You are either being dishonest or ignorant, although it doesn't matter which, both are wrong.
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Old 28-12-2012, 01:51
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Re: Shake N' Bake Safly?

The maximum we can do on this forum harm reduction-wise is either suggest a better way, or suggest one doesn't undergo a dangerous practice in the first place. Based on your first post, I felt the best advice was the second option. You are free not to listen.

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If the drug war has shown us anything it's that telling someone not to do something doesn't stop them and that teaching them the right way to do the "wrong" thing ends up being best for everyone.
The exception to that rule being methods for producing shake n' bake meth. You'll be hard pressed to find anyone on this forum who will advise you in such a practice.

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Old 28-12-2012, 02:19
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Re: Shake N' Bake Safly?

It would no longer be "shake N' Bake" if done in an appropriate apparatus. Honestly I think you don't know so it brings up the question why would you post other than to be a negative nelly. I'll be sure to edit my first post so as not to offend other tool's.

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Old 28-12-2012, 02:27
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Re: Shake N' Bake Safly?

Your post was specifically about shake 'n bake (see title). You asked for a safe way to do it, and for special devices with pressure releases -I responded accordingly. Given proper lab-ware, there would be no need for a shake n' bake synthesis, but that's a discussion for the chemistry forum, which you don't have access to -and never will going around using the word "sciency".

Oh, and watch the flaming.

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Old 28-12-2012, 02:44
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Re: Shake N' Bake Safly?

The "Shake & Bake" (SnB) method also known as the one pot method have to higher risk of explosion. A decision has been made to ban all discussion of SnB on drugs forum. This decision was made by the staff in consolation with members well versed in the production of methamphetamine.

Understand there is NO way to run this reaction safely. There is no right way or safe way to run this reaction.

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DF has established that certain subjects are not tolerated because the inherent aspects of the topics are extremely dangerous or simply unethical. The subject of volatile solvent inhalation or drug “cutting” techniques evidently comes to one’s mind. This is not about censorship or close-mindedness, it’s about common sense and logical analysis of the imminent dangers that a procedure, or actions, can lead to. The so-called “shake n bake” method of producing methamphetamine is definitely one of those cases. The debate is not about whether it is “working” or not, by working I mean that the procedure is actually managing to produce reasonable yields of pure methamphetamine out of pseudoephedrine. It’s about the overall dangers that this procedure can lead to.


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Old 28-12-2012, 03:22
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Re: Shake N' Bake Safly?

Discussions related to methamphetamine synthesis belong in the methamphetamine chemistry section of the site. You can apply for access to the drug chemistry fora here. However as Docta said discussion of the so-called "shake and bake" is off-limits since it's just as much a recipe for making a grenade as it is for methamphetamine.
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