Opinions - Why shouldn't SWIM try LSD?

[Brizzles]

In all of SWIM's research, he has yet to find any clear cut reason to not try LSD. Even when SWIM searched dea.gov, the feds fail to come up with a reason not to use LSD besides the fact that it is illegal. Is there anything SWIM should be worried about before his first LSD trip?

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Legit question by a new member looking for information on why he should not take lsd. This thread has some good replys ...

[Alicia]

Only your mindset for the experience, also be very careful if you have any family history of schizophenria or other mental illnesses as this can bring them to the for if you have pre-dormant conditions. However that never stopped Swia or boyo. I personally reckon it has a lot to do with the Set and Setting. you must not go into to thinking something bad will happen as this can spiral round in your mind and most likely happen.

Swia would suggest
An environment you feel safe, A person who is trusted that wont take advantage who can help you should u encounter difficulty.
DONT TAKE YOUR CLOTHES OFF and RUN round in blissful happiness if its in your home then by all means. Just dont go sight seeing like SWIA did.
Always remember no matter how difficult things are the experience will end and try not to look at all negative thoughts in a bad way, think why does that go that way, or that was random. the more scared u get of something the more it will magnify

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Great recommendation. Family hisory of mental illness + lsd = big no no

[Alfa]

Before one considers why not to use anything, one needs a good reason to use it in the first place.
LSD is a powerfull tool which can be used for self exploration and psychological development. Besides that, it can be fun as well. But it also can be deconstructive and cause bad trips. IMHO, LSD is not just a fun thing to do. Just for fun, other options may be better suited.

[Brizzles]

SWIM told me that he wants to try LSD for all the reasons stated by Alfa. He has always been far more interested in psychadelics than any other type of psychoactive and LSD seems like a "must try." The only thing holding him back is the looming thought that he may be destroying a part of himself such as with cocaine or heroin.

[Alicia]

Originally Posted by Brizzles

may be destroying a part of himself such as with cocaine or heroin.

LSD may change how you look at things thou in life. destroying is the wrong word.

cocaine and heroin come under a completely different bracket to lsd, the only danger is to your psychological state rather than the psychical. which could lead u too kill yourself unlikely thou.even depressed people have found some solace with lsd. but no dangers psychically unless theres a heart condition. as lsd does elevate it not to the degree of coke thou.

[jesusfreak666er]

LSD is not for everyone, swim loves it, but swim knows some of swim's friends are not ready for acid or shrooms, they just would bug out too much. in swim's view lsd if for those that seek out lsd, not for those who are oftered it. Tripping should be something not pressured but oftered nicely with pros and cons.

[Nature Boy]

If SWIY has done his research and uses a small experimental dose of LSD for his first time (granted he has no psychological issues, anxiety disorders etc.), there should be no problem. Like mentioned above with a good set, setting and company SWIY should enjoy his first experience. If respected, LSD won't bite. Don't let government scare tactics worry you. More-or-less every myth about acid is bullshit. Happy tripping!

[Woodman]

Originally Posted by Alfa

Before one considers why not to use anything, one needs a good reason to use it in the first place.

I've really never needed any "good reason" to use things (drugs) other than the fact that I just wanted to experience a different state of mind.

LSD offers this in abundance without being anything like other recreational drugs, so great caution is needed before attempting a trip.

You can take pot, coke, heroin, pills, meth, and have a very similar experience EVERY TIME you dose; but, with LSD, the trip you experience depends largely upon your state of mind at the point of come-on. You can have a beautiful, life-changing experience, or a traumatic nightmare that leaves you psychologically scarred, forever.

Originally Posted by Alfa

LSD is a powerfull tool which can be used for self exploration and psychological development.

Absolutely!

Certainly more of a tool for personal development than a venue for a "fun" excursion the way most other drugs are.

You really should work your mind before attempting to trip as a psychonaut.

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i agree whole heartedly, drugs can be used without a real reason.

[raven3davis]

SWIM loves lsd and once also asked himself this question. Why the hell shouldn't he take a dose? After the drought was over (it was definitely dry for a while there), SWIM grabbed four hits and dropped acid the first chance he got. Now that he looks back, he did it at the wrong place and time but he still had one of the best experiences of his life.

Dont do acid if you have anything on your mind. Dont even consider taking acid if you are going to be at home and are under the age of 18. You need to plan out your night so that there won't be any unexpected confrontations that you will be forced to deal with. You dont want to be disturbed for a good 12 hours. Do not do acid if you have work of school the next day. SWIM recommends dropping on a Friday so you will have all Saturday to recover. When Sunday comes around, you will be recovered and able to take care of anything you need to.

LSd can be used for recreational purposes, spiritual puropses, or both. Just be in a safe enviroment so you can turn of your mind and get in tune with the greater part of this existance. SWIM will be the first one to tell you that LSD is amazing shit and if used correctly, it will take you to a place you would never have imagined existed. It is such a clean high too. It feels natural to swim also. You basically experience life as it always is, always has been, and always will be. This type of mystical state is not only achievable by drugs though. Use drugs as a tool to get you to that special place. Dont venture into the unknown too often though, it will become much more framiliar and you might "lose the magic."

LSD is an unpredictable drug, but if you prepare for your trip, it is pretty easy to consistantly achieve a glowing experience that leaves you estatic for days, even weeks. It is all about mind control. Just have your head on straight and be ready for a wild ride...ohh swim gets tingly just thinking about it.

There really are not many more reasons SWIM can give for not taking lsd. SWIM thinks lsd is the best drug ever invented by man. If you read SWIMs reports, you will know how much of an influence lsd has had on swim and who he is today. He worships this chemical. There are some tryptamines and peas that SWIM is very fond of, but none of them come anywhere close to lsd.

If you have any sort of underlying mental problems, or a family history or such problems, reconsider taking lsd. SWIM thinks the whole world could benefit from a good dos of acid. The concept of hate and war just do not exist when SWIM is in that state of mind. just pure light and bliss.....have a good trip and please write about your experiences so others can know what to expect...peace

[Brizzles]

Thank you all very much for your advice. SWIM will definately appreciate it. He is still in the early stages of his psychonautical journey and likes to plan ahead for the future. SWIM has mentioned that he planned out a progression of several different psychadelics to try throughout his life. The order is as follows: Salvia divinorum, shrooms, LSD, and DMT. He may experiment with other psychadelics along the way, but those are the four most appealing substances to him.

[blue_eyes]

Originally Posted by raven3davis

Dont even consider taking acid if you are going to be at home and are under the age of 18

Um....

Forgive me for not agreeing with this sentence....

I wouldn't recommend someone under the age of 18 to take acid AT ALL! Not at home, not at a friends house, not anywhere. NOT AT ALL!!!!

swim has never had acid, but I can tell you now, she's considering it very carefully, before she actually takes her first trip, and swim is in her 30's!

No offense intended Raven, I was just surprised that you would recommend to an 18 year old to take acid somewhere other than at home, let alone at all!

[Benzeneringz]

There's really only one good reason I can think of for skipping an LSD trip. If you have a moderate to severe psychotic condition, I would be weary of dropping acid. Certain illnesses create a bigger contraindication of LSD, such as schitzophrenia, manic-depressive disorder, bi-polar disorder, and borderline personality disorder. LSD can trigger a psychotic episode even if you aren't afflicted with a psychotic disorder, so the risks of it happening to a predisposed individule skyrocket. This isn't to say that a schitzophrenic or manic-depressive should totally avoid psychedelics like LSD. LSD is a tryptamine drug, and a powerful one at that. If you have one of the above-listed conditions, consider doing some serious research into the subject before you take anything. After doing research and you think LSD might be too big of a risk, you might look into psilocybin mushrooms as a less-intense alternative. Psilocybin (which is actually a pro-drug which means the active substance ends up to be called Psilocin) which is found in certain mushrooms is also a tryptamine drug but less potent and in a way less intense than LSD.

[Senor Gribson]

brizzles:
tell swim he should try shrooms as a first trip, before ANY other psychedelic (other than everyones favourite herb of course)

[grandbaby]

That's arguable either way. I read a book once where someone took acid first, many times, before he ever took shrooms. And those acid experiences did not prepare him for the immensity of the shrooms.

Of course, a lot of shrooms were taken, which is a major factor.

[raven3davis]

SWIMs first experience with shrooms (3.5 grams) was just as intense as his first acid drop which was four hits.

If you are looking for a light trip to start with, just take half a hit of lsd. Another good starter drug for tripping would be 2c-i, or 2c-b. They are consitered a bit more light than some of the traditional psychadelics, granted you take a low dose.

[rocco_blitz]

Well swim does not know if this is proper thread for this,swim has been told that there is a difference in LSD and acid.Swim obtained LSD from someone that had been making it for a long time,suppossed to have been the same recipe of the LSD from the 60"s and early 70" Ya no window payne,microdot,etc.When swim took this LSD he noticed that it was much better than the acid he had taken before.Swim recalls that the acid which may have not been clean gave swim neck pains,jaw pain,just very weird,and it seems to be that way for swim everytime he takes the acid which is blotter form.Now this is why swim wonders if there is a difference because when swim obtains said LSD it it much better.Swim get good visuals good vibs tracers and really into all things.As all swiys know it really hard to explain a LSD trip because no 2 people are alike body chemical make-up etc.So if anyone could help swim on this ? maybe it would clear some things up for him.

[raven3davis]

LSD is Acid. Acid is lsd. The difference in trips is due to impurities, set and setting.

There are blotters being dipped in DOX chemicals and other research chemicals and being sold as acid, but 99.999% of people know that acid is a nickname for lsd. Just because someone might sell DOC as acid does not mean the drug community should have to change a nickname that has been around for decades. Do not be fooled. Acid is just a nickname for lsd. The purity can vary between batches. More impure product will lead to the symptoms you described like neck and jaw pain.

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thanks for the info on lsd,acid =same thing