Crack is more addictive than injecting it in it's HCL form
Hi.
I've just today tried smoking crack, after having a long affair with cocaine, mostly injected intravenously.
I've noticed that crack high is different to the one you get when you inject hcl. Crack seems to hit you before you know you inhaled the smoke; it's that quick! It gives you that smooth but very intense euphoric lift, while shooting it gives you a harder hit, stronger rush and more physical side effects.
Crack has something that makes it so addictive, something that coke doesn't. It's that smoothness of the lift, hard to explain. It's smoother, and because of that it's more enjoyable.
Re: Crack is more addictive than injecting it in it's HCL form
So your cracks been rocked, eh? (or your rocks been cracked...?) Surely, it is more addictive for the exact reasons you brought up, verbatim. Keen observational skills! Note: it is also more fiendish, which many think is impossible but trust it is, as you let out your first hit you will usually be already frantically trying to load another hit ASAP, which is as soon as the stem cools down enough, sometimes that doesn't even matter your so high and you just load it as it vaporizes itself from the heat of the glass! Yeah, totally, the most addictive thing known to mankind, IMO. Please try to take breaks as often as possible as it can be equally as physically demanding after a night of smoking as it is shooting. If you shoot crack that is when you know you have a serious needle fetish because smoking it is so efficient and in many's opinion hits even quicker albeit much smoother with less of a body load and more of a clear, bell ringer of a ride. Cheers!
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The comedown from crack everytime was awful for me. I never iv'd but snorted plenty. Maybe it's because I'm bipolar I just can't handle crack. It turns me into a fiend and bad things happen. Whereas just insufflation didn't bother me that much.
My sister, on the other hand has been using cocaine since the 80's sniffiing and having "endless colds" for years. Then she got into crack and lost everything, her husband, nursing licensure and beautiful home. Now she stays in a Miami ghetto and told me she doesn't get high from crack anymore, just injects because it lasts longer. She has warrants out for her arrest so can't make it up to my county because she cannot drive.
But for the first time in nearly 3 years I had a friend drive me down to see her. It broke my heart to see her with all these needle marks on her hands, arms and legs. My sister gets a monthly disability check and blows through it within days. The rest of the time she prostitutes herself at age 45. I worry so much for her and this drug has wrecked her completely. Sorry to ruin your buzz guys. Once cocaine gets a hold of you, it can be very desrtructive.
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i also find crack more addictive. with in jecting i will stop after a couple shots but with crack im not stoping till all i have is gone. also i think the act of smokeing becomes addictive loading those beautiful rocks and taseting that sweet smoke knowing that the second you blow it out youll feel great. i did coke for along time and never had much problems with it but crack took alot away from me my life saveings were gone in a matter of weeks
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I've started yesterday at about 7 in the evening, having in mind only smoking it once and saving the rest of it, as I had to go to sleep early for work.
It turned out that as soon as I got that first hit, I completely forgot about my rules. I ended up smoking all of it throughout the night, one after another while overly emphasizing on how great it feels and spamming all my mates, making myself sound like an idiot.
Short duration is such a pain in the ass though. Crack is all about that first second when you inhale the smoke, that "lift", which decreases as soon as it comes up. It instantly gives you that euphoric push, that cloudy rush, that instant satisfaction. Crack = all of the euphoria present when I.V'ed, without unnecessary effects on the body, e.g: overstimulation, high heart rate jump or breathlessness when injected. Shooting sure is more of a rush, but it can be too intense and make the high less enjoyable and more "im so fucked right now, i can't even speak properly".
Sorry for this nonsense, but I fell in love again with this drug, and I have to share my thoughts!
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It broke my heart to see her with all these needle marks on her hands. Once cocaine gets a hold of you, it can be very desrtructive.
I know where you're coming from. Cocaine is one of the worst drugs to be injecting, along with other, especially short acting, dopamine based stimulants (good example - beta ketones). Dopamine is a tricky one, because it's addiction is based on setting your brain to "chasing the reward" mode, and not because the high was great.
It's almost certain that you will fuck up your veins, health and possibly overdose once you get into shooting such chemicals. They make you crave obsessively when they wear off, they produce severe comedown, they mess your judgement, reasoning and make you act recklessly, and reckless i.v practice is a dangerous game to play.
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I agree. I'm sure shooting it is more addictive for some people, but I can think of a few reasons smoking it may indeed be more addictive:
1) I would hazard a guess that most people find smoking more pleasurable than injecting (as an ROA, excluding the drugs - pulling smoke from a pipe vs. tying a tourniquet, finding a vein and shooting).
2) Smoking reaches the brain faster than injecting. Cocaine is, along with meth, one of those rare drugs where it is actually possible to get a huge dose in at once by inhalation (high BA when smoked), so the rush comes on faster than the injected rush.
3) Smoking crack has a shorter duration, so you re-dose more often.
4) A good hit of IV cocaine feels godly but you don't necessarily want to repeat it again immediately, as it is so strong; I have no problem smoking as big a rock as I can pull into my lungs, exhaling, and popping another one into the pipe before 2 minutes have passed
Injecting it is addictive as fuck, though, especially since it's so dick-suckin-good, but I nearly killed myself doing it and am never doing it again.
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Re: Crack is more addictive than injecting it in it's HCL form
Its strange but, although I've sampled smoking crack several times, I never got hooked (and I get addicted to anything pretty easily). It could be a matter of personal taste.
The effect was always pleasant enough, but very mellow: felt rather indifferent to whether I could get more hits or not afterwards. So its not that addictive for some (the lucky ones? Because friends who are hooked are a really scary sight...)
I actually prefer the "grittiness" of snorting coke. The high feels more "harsh" (or "crude" even?) and there are more annoying side effects, but thats what has me hooked for some reason. Also love: making lines, feeling the sting, tasting the drip, etc.
Don't know about injecting (scared of needles, thank god ). Wouldn't it be a very short lasting high?
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I went from powder, to a handful of injections to 2 months of abstinence and isolation from my social group, to meeting a new social group and relapsing back into coke by smoking crack for the first time. From the first time I tried it, I stopped using powder. If powder was all that was available, I would take a line and then cook the rest up. I did IV crack once or twice, but smoking was where it was really at for me.
I don't know "how much" of an addict I was. I know that 7 years later I still dream about it and if given the opportunity, I would use it. I had to change my phone number and move and basically become a shut-in. The love of a good man helped me deal with those first few months and is my anti-drug now ( to quote those lame commercials.) I don't know what the future holds even after these years of abstinence, but at the same time I don't want to over-dramatize what I really went through. All I know is I lost my mind for a few years and then found it again. I find myself fantasizing from time to time, though. I will look up videos on Youtube that contain interviews of prostitutes who use crack. The point is to repulse the user, but I view content such as that from time to time because it's like pornography to me. I don't even know what I am doing posting on this forum right now. I don't even drink anymore. I smoke pot maybe 3 times a year. It's still in my brain, though. The only chemical I actually use now is nicotine, and that is a real bitch to quit, even after getting away from smoking and now getting my nic from lozenges/e-cigs/swedish snus. Maybe because of lack of immediate consequences. *shrugs* Rambling over.
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Kajol: to answer your question, I have never injected cocaine. My sister tells me you get a rush and it lasts much longer than smoking it. Whenever I smoked, within 5 minutes I was wanting another hit.
Subversive: I know what you mean because I hate the thought of ever smoking crack again. The comedown was too harsh. But last night I had another dream where someone was offering me some, It seemed so real and I woke up pissed off that I didn't get a chance to take a hit, the mind-fuck!
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Originally Posted by sinnerek21
Hi.
I've just today tried smoking crack, after having a long affair with cocaine, mostly injected intravenously.
I've noticed that crack high is different to the one you get when you inject hcl. Crack seems to hit you before you know you inhaled the smoke; it's that quick! It gives you that smooth but very intense euphoric lift, while shooting it gives you a harder hit, stronger rush and more physical side effects.
Crack has something that makes it so addictive, something that coke doesn't. It's that smoothness of the lift, hard to explain. It's smoother, and because of that it's more enjoyable.
Your opinion?
What it has is the taste, the taste in your lungs. If you liked the taste of the drain in the back of your throat, your gonna love the taste of the smoke in your lungs. You dont want to go down this rabbit hole. I already can tell you how it ends. Your better off moving to another drug.
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Originally Posted by sinnerek21
Hi.
I've just today tried smoking crack, after having a long affair with cocaine, mostly injected intravenously.
I've noticed that crack high is different to the one you get when you inject hcl. Crack seems to hit you before you know you inhaled the smoke; it's that quick! It gives you that smooth but very intense euphoric lift, while shooting it gives you a harder hit, stronger rush and more physical side effects.
Crack has something that makes it so addictive, something that coke doesn't. It's that smoothness of the lift, hard to explain. It's smoother, and because of that it's more enjoyable.
Your opinion?
What it has is the taste, the taste in your lungs. If you liked the taste of the drain in the back of your throat, your gonna love the taste of the smoke in your lungs. You dont want to go down this rabbit hole. I already can tell you how it ends. Your better off moving to another drug.
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[QUOTE=Booty love;1265151]What it has is the taste, the taste in your lungs. If you liked the taste of the drain in the back of your throat, your gonna love the taste of the smoke in your lungs. You dont want to go down this rabbit hole. I already can tell you how it ends. Your better off moving to another drug.
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