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Old 25-06-2006, 21:53
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Quick dihydrocodiene question

Can DHC be extraced from pills that contain parecetemol in the same way codiene can? And how strong is it in relation to codiene?
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Yes it can be seperated from the acetominophen/parecetamol with a Cold Water Extrction. Dihydracodiene has a 22mg/100ml water solubility. AS for the comparison to codiene strength im not sure, however it is thought that 60mg is a good starting dose for those who have no tolerance ot opiates.
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Yes it can be seperated from the acetominophen/parecetamol with a Cold Water Extrction. Dihydracodiene has a 22mg/100ml water solubility. AS for the comparison to codiene strength im not sure, however it is thought that 60mg is a good starting dose for those who have no tolerance ot opiates.
OK cheers guys although I don't think it could be 22mg/100ml otherwise that would make it less soluble than paracetemol. SWIM has 26 10mg DHC/500mg paracetemol pills so will do a simple cold water extraction on them and split the DHC between 2 people.
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OK cheers guys although I don't think it could be 22mg/100ml otherwise that would make it less soluble than paracetemol. SWIM has 26 10mg DHC/500mg paracetemol pills so will do a simple cold water extraction on them and split the DHC between 2 people.
Please view Mr Jim's thread on opiate dosages to choose the correct dosages. It is impossible for someone to give SWIY an accurate starting dose here as we have no idea of tolerances of SWIY's subjects.

A Simple Cold Water extraction should be effective at seperating the paracetemol and Dihydrocodeine.

If SWIY is unsure on dosages use the usual method of finding ones tolerance. Start small and slowly work up until the desired effects are reached. Remember you can underdose safely but overdosing leaves little chance of survival.

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Please view Mr Jim's thread on opiate dosages to choose the correct dosages. It is impossible for someone to give SWIY an accurate starting dose here as we have no idea of tolerances of SWIY's subjects.

A Simple Cold Water extraction should be effective at seperating the paracetemol and Dihydrocodeine.

If SWIY is unsure on dosages use the usual method of finding ones tolerance. Start small and slowly work up until the desired effects are reached. Remember you can underdose safely but overdosing leaves little chance of survival.
SWIM now only has 200mg worth of DHC and has no way of getting more so this will be a one off. So SWIM was thinking of doing 100mg. SWIM has taken codiene a few times at doses ranging from 100-300mg and oral morphine once 30mg. So SWIM probably doesn't have much opiate tolerance but does have some experience. Since DHC is twice codienes strength 100mg should be fine?
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Well SWIM just found he can get DHC otc (7.46mg/500mg) which he hadn't realised so is trying a dose of 65mg (extracted from 9 pills) this evening.
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It is a about twice as potent as codeine.
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