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Old 13-12-2012, 06:30
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Pills vs. Weed

So I am a heavy weed smoker. I smoke about a gram a day and beyond more so on weekends. Now, obviously that much smoke is not good for your lungs what so ever.

So health wise should I get stoned every hour of every day or take like, xanax, valium, addies, only 2-3 times a day? So about 6 pills a day?

Side question what drug has the longest high? Other than hard drugs.
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Old 13-12-2012, 06:41
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Re: Pills vs Weed

IMO stick with the bud it's way less addictive than benzo's (Valium, Xanax, eg.)

Adderall is a speedy type high; for me similar to cocaine. It's not comparable to a sedative pot or benzo buzz.

Longest acting drug's I've used: fetanyl patch (lasted 3 days.) Next longest would be acid (LSD) which had me trippin about 12 hours.

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Old 13-12-2012, 07:06
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Re: Pills vs Weed

I would just recommend buying a vaporizer. That way you won't have to harm your lungs every time you want to get high. You can also make edibles.

Don't start taking pills every day. That would lead to a nasty addiction. I've read that withdraw from benzos (xanax, valium) are worse than withdraw from opiates.

And if you make pot brownies the high will last a good 4-6 hours. And benzos are pretty hard drugs. Adderall is basically just watered down meth. So you would be taking hard drugs anyways
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Old 13-12-2012, 08:23
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Re: Pills vs Weed

Dude, stick with weed. At least weed actually benefits your health.

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Completely unfounded claim - in fact a number of conditions are thought to be exacerbated or triggered by heavy weed use
Agreed. Weed (long term) can offer better health benefits, than xanax, opiates, etc
Smoking weed releases tar into the lungs. Tar is a well know carcinogen(cancer causing agent). This is far from benificial.
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Old 13-12-2012, 08:52
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Re: Pills vs Weed

if weed works stick with it and start to look into the need for all these drugs. DEF not start a super addictive benzo habbit. the wd's could kill you
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Old 13-12-2012, 08:55
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Re: Pills vs Weed

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if weed works stick with it and start to look into the need for all these drugs. DEF not start a super addictive benzo habbit. the wd's could kill you
But benzo's are hella fun compared to weed right?
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Old 13-12-2012, 09:16
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Re: Pills vs Weed

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But benzo's are hella fun compared to weed right?
dont get me wrong they are some my fav drugs but now i cant stop and they have landed me in jail more then once on a blackout. i should say this one last time dont start takeing benzos if you can help it there really addictive and the withdrawl is hell and never combine with alcohol or opiates

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Old 13-12-2012, 09:17
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Re: Pills vs Weed

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dont get me wrong they are some my fav drugs but now i cant stop and they have landed me in jail more then once on a blackout
Yea don't abuse it too much guys.

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Old 13-12-2012, 10:46
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Re: Pills vs Weed

Shortest_Straw, You're comparing things that are not to be compared in the first place.

While some users seem to be experiencing true addiction to cannabis, most users do not get addicted, do not get withdrawal symptoms when they stop for a while and do not fall into delirium tremens upon stopping with cannabis.

Furthermore, you're talking about replacing weed with "xanax, valium or addies" - the two first substances are strong downers from the benzodiazepine family, the latter one, adderall, is a mixture of amphetamines and a strong upper - they're absolutely, completely different things.

- Benzodiazepines are terribly addictive, have a very steep tolerance buildup curve and the withdrawal symptoms when one has to stop are gruesome to say the least (and really, that's to say the very least, the wd symptoms one experiences after benzo addiction can be a total nightmare and extend over months), not mentioning the often-encoutered nasty side effects, like killing off one's libido, or just erasing one's memories with high efficiency (and much, much more - check wikipedia for a full list of side-effects most of the ones listed there are often encountered by benzo users, which you can also verify by searching this forum).

- Adderall is amphetamine: strong upper from the amphetamine class, addictive, nasty side effects as well, and one should mention that users of amphetamines or other uppers are likely to get addicted to benzos as well since they're often used to counteract comedown after a binge on stimulants like adderall or meth.

All in all, it would be quite dumb to say the least, to replace cannabis use,even heavy use, with benzos or uppers or both. You'd probably get addicted and would probably experience side-effects, not even mentioning that cannabis and benzos go together very well and that there's a good chance you'd continue with cannabis as well, because, hell, it's really nice.

As mentioned above, the very best option you have to stay off anything else and continue to enjoy cannabis without too much harm to your respiratory system would be to get yourself a good vaporizer and/or switch to cooking your cannabis into nice edibles - edibles do work much stronger and way longer than the regular spliff, they're sometimes even too much for hard-core smokers.

There are a few other threads that asked the same question already on this forum, please do a search and get as much info a you can, then make up your mind. I for one can not in any case advocate the use of any other drug above cannabis, as it seems (to me at least) that cannabis is one of the most potent but least dangerous drugs ever discovered.

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Some good advice here - bundling benzos with amphetamines just because they're both 'pills' is ludicrous
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Old 13-12-2012, 14:55
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Re: Pills vs Weed

Addiction to cannabis is not a chemical addiction, it is an emotional addiction. Addiction to pills is a chemical addiction and far far worse (in my opinion anyway).

Some would argue that the emotional addiction to cannabis can be just as bad as a chemical addiction like those that happen with pills, however I would beg to differ.

Sure, I LOVE getting high, edibles are the bomb for me.. If I don't get my weed fix I can become bitchy, and pissy, but I don't suffer any other adverse effects. And eventually, if I keep myself occupied, it goes away anyway.

However, the withdrawal and actual chemical dependency of pills can destroy your life and possibly land you in the hospital. You can get shakes, nausea, vomiting, etc from being chemically addicted/dependent.

It can also take YEARS to finally get clean off the pills. I have had periods of two years and more off of cannabis, gone back to it, and gone off it again, with only the occasional brownie here and there, and I don't feel an overwhelming urge to go back to it...

My experience with pills has been very limited, but the withdrawal symptoms suck balls, and I wound up going through 3 days of hell to get off them, and then about a month of cravings... And I only used the pills like 3 times in a month... So that experience scared the shit out of me... I'll take my weed any day.

Incidentally, I used to smoke cigarettes too, I smoked for about 3 years, and I STILL get cravings, I imagine the same could be said about using pills for a longer period of time, even if you get clean, you will still have the cravings for the rest of your life, but 10 to 1000 times stronger than cravings you might get for cigarettes (how it was explained to me by a friend who was on pills)... I couldn't imagine living with cravings 10 to 1000 times stronger than the ones I get occasionally for cigarettes... I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy...

Of course, everyone's body is different, and we all react in different ways to different drugs.. One of the interesting things about the mind and body...
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Old 21-01-2013, 19:40
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Re: Pills vs Weed

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Addiction to cannabis is not a chemical addiction, it is an emotional addiction. Addiction to pills is a chemical addiction and far far worse (in my opinion anyway).
What do you think 'emotions' are, but brain states caused by various proportions of chemicals?

I think I see what you're getting at here but the distinction between 'chemical' and 'emotional' dependence is a false one. Talking about any such group of drugs as "pills" is nonsensical because about a zillion different types of drugs, of all different classes, can be pressed into pills. It sounds like you're falling into the old fallacy of "drugs" or "chemicals" on one hand and weed, which is "just a plant", on the other. This is complete pseudoscience, since all plants, like all animals and all mineral substances, are made of chemicals anyway. The only distinction between taking a plant drug like cannabis and a pharmaceutical drug is that plants contain many different chemicals, more than one of which may be psychoactive, and that the proportions of these chemicals is not controlled, as it is in the case of pharmaceuticals (though obviously not street drugs such as ecstasy).

Addiction specialists usually talk about physical dependence and psychological dependence. Benzodiazepines are certainly physically addictive, to the point that sudden cessation can cause fatal withdrawal symptoms (which even heroin usually doesn't do). Amphetamines are highly psychologically addictive but not generally physically addictive, although I think this has been known in cases of very heavy, prolonged use. Cannabis can certainly be psychologically addictive, though I don't know cases of physical addiction have ever been recorded. Really, it's best not to be addicted to anything, psychologically or physically.

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Old 23-01-2013, 05:43
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Re: Pills vs. Weed

You're comparing apples to oranges, and the definition of "hard drugs" is a matter of opinion, not a scientific term.

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Old 31-01-2013, 23:48
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Re: Pills vs. Weed

You should take the majority advice and just stick with weed. Pills, from xanax, to opiates, adderall, etc have way worse side effects, and can make people do things that they wouldn't normally do to keep the high. Weed can be like this to some, but it is not as common as with pills. My best friend combined some pills (xanax and roxycotin) and passed out while driving and got in a wreck. Luckily no one was injured, but he got arrested. He is still battling addiction and it kills me to see him like this. You dont want to go down that road.

If you get 'bored' of weed, just try out different strains if you can. Smoke out of bowls, blunts, joints, bongs, or a vaporizer. Just change it up. That dont work, try making some cannabutter. This will definitely get you high for a while. Maybe a tolerance break would be good.
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Old 01-02-2013, 00:36
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Re: Pills vs. Weed

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Pills, from xanax, to opiates, adderall, etc have way worse side effects, and can make people do things that they wouldn't normally do to keep the high.
Sigh...see my post above. There is no such category of drugs as "pills", just as there is no such category of vehicles as "red cars". Any kind of car can be painted red, just as any kind of drug can be pressed into pills. Sedatives, opioids and stimulants are all as different from each other as they are from weed, and if you think it's impossible to become addicted to weed then you're very naive.

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My best friend combined some pills (xanax and roxycotin) and passed out while driving and got in a wreck.
Hate to tell you this but being blazed out of your mind on chronic isn't great for your driving skills either.
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Re: Pills vs. Weed

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So I am a heavy weed smoker. I smoke about a gram a day and beyond more so on weekends. Now, obviously that much smoke is not good for your lungs what so ever.

So health wise should I get stoned every hour of every day or take like, xanax, valium, addies, only 2-3 times a day? So about 6 pills a day?

Side question what drug has the longest high? Other than hard drugs.
I would stay with smoking weed. The problem is that the pills are so addictive that its unlikely that you would be able to stick to 6 pills a day for very long, 6 pills a day might actually be worse than weed, its hard to tell because the scientific evidence is very grey.

I would stick to weed and focus on trying to cut down on that, maybe try edibles? Its a lot healthier, if you really must smoke then maybe you can invest in a vaporizer, its much better for your lungs and you get far less carcinogens.

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I would stay with smoking weed. The problem is that the pills are so addictive that its unlikely that you would be able to stick to 6 pills a day for very long...
Why do I get the feeling I'm banging my head against a brick wall here?

"6 pills"...of what? Aspirin? Caffeine? Temazepam? Methamphetamine? 100 micrograms? 100 milligrams? "6 pills" is as meaningful as "some drugs". I.e., not very.
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Re: Pills vs. Weed

You'll get more out of your weed if you consume it in pill form. I've been making my own cannabis capsules for over 15 years. One gram of weed cooked into coconut oil and added to empty gelcaps will get you way higher than smoking that same gram.

Taking xanax or valium on a daily basis will turn out to be a nightmare. Adderall would be less of a nightmare, but you won't stay high for long if you take it every day. Those drugs should be used sparingly if you want to take them for fun.

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Finally, some sensible advice! Yes, daily benzo use should definitely be avoided.
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Re: Piills vs. Weed

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Sigh...see my post above. There is no such category of drugs as "pills", just as there is no such category of vehicles as "red cars". Any kind of car can be painted red, just as any kind of drug can be pressed into pills. Sedatives, opioids and stimulants are all as different from each other as they are from weed, and if you think it's impossible to become addicted to weed then you're very naive.



Hate to tell you this but being blazed out of your mind on chronic isn't great for your driving skills either.

Remember, we are comparing weed to other drugs, which are more dangerous, FACT!! Opiates produce horrible physical and mental withdrawals, alcohol and benzodiazepine(xanx) can kill you if you quit cold turkey (heavy users), then you got coke, crack and meth. Seriously, we are comparing a plant to pills/other synthesized drugs. Yeah I know we got the coca plant and poopy plant, but chewing on the coca leaves is diff from crack, and the poppy plant produces terrible withdrawals which should show one that it shouldn't be abused.

And marijuana doesn't impair a person, like other drugs can. Yeah a rookie to smoking shouldn't drive, but a daily user for yrs can handle driving no problem. What other drug can you use and play other sports (football, basketball, baseball) and not throw up or have other physical side effects? Almost everyone on my softball team smokes weed and we still win tournaments, yet we would be unable to drive?

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You clearly haven't listened to a word anyone has said - and no, it is NEVER OK to drive while intoxicated on *anything*, including weed, regardless of whether you're a regular user or not.
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Re: Pills vs. Weed

So if I put a low amount of THC (active substance in Marijuana) or Caffeine into a pill, then that's more dangerous than smoking Marijuana? And it's funny how you say that the poppy plant gives you heavy withdrawals and that that shows you that it shouldn't be abused, because this is the best example of how your distinction of pills as opposed to Marijuana as a natural plant does not make any sense in the slightest.

I can put THC from Marijuana into a pill, I can put opiates from a poppy plant into a pill, I can put Caffeine into a pill, or I can compare Marijuana, opiates and tea/coffee as plants. When taken in comparable amounts (same ROA and other things being equal), there is no significant difference with regard to effects and addiction whether you take the pure chemical or the plant containing it (I'm aware that opiate pills sold in pharmacies typically only contain one substance and also sometimes substances that are not found in nature, but that doesn't change the class of drugs, the basic effects and in many cases, the addicton potential).

The natural/synthetic dichotomy doesn't make sense when talking about drug addiction. The same drugs that occur in nature can be produced synthetically and there may be many drugs we now only know synthetically to be discovered at least in traces in plants that haven't been analysed yet.

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Also don't play down Marijuana addiction. While it's true that addiction to Marijuana will not kill you upon withdrawal, or that it's virtually impossible to overdose critically on Marijuana, there are many people who have problems quitting after months or years of daily use. Look around this forum.

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Re: Pills vs. Weed

Everything in moderation is safe (well at least safer anyway).

Smoking weed everyday to get high isn't going to be good for your health just like taken Vicodin or Valium everyday to get high isn't going to be good for you. So if you feel like you have to get high everyday just to cope with life you obviously have some psychological problems.

As for the side question I was still feeling the effects of Flurazepam for 3-4 days after consumption.

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Re: Pills vs. Weed

Benzos help me a lot with anxiety and weed just makes me think everything is funnier than it really is which in turn kills boredom most of the time. I can't take a pick out of the two though, although smoking weed everyday is definitely not as bad as taking benzos everyday.
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Re: Piills vs. Weed

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And marijuana doesn't impair a person, like other drugs can. Yeah a rookie to smoking shouldn't drive, but a daily user for yrs can handle driving no problem. What other drug can you use and play other sports (football, basketball, baseball) and not throw up or have other physical side effects? Almost everyone on my softball team smokes weed and we still win tournaments, yet we would be unable to drive?
Heavy use of cannabis is known to trigger schizophrenia in people who are predisposed to the condition. It can lead to psychological dependence. It definitely impairs driving ability. It can lead to or exacerbate depression. Some researchers think it's worse than tobacco for raising your risk of lung cancer and other respiratory diseases. Oh, and cannabis leads to drop in IQ when used heavily by adolescents.

Look, I enjoy a smoke myself. But it's a drug like any other and has potential risks associated with it as well as benefits. Claiming it's harmless because it's "just a plant" is nonsense.
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Old 10-02-2013, 20:14
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Re: Pills vs. Weed

I never said weed wasn't bad, i said that it isn't as bad for you as xanax, opiates, crack, coke, meth, etc. And yeah if an adolescent is using any drug heavily, it prob will make them dumber, marijuana included. But when did I say I supported kids using weed or any drug?

Just b/c you put thc into a pill, it isn't the same as smoking weed. Weed has over 80 chemicals in it besides THC, which plays a role in the high. **A THC pill is different than a pill that has thc, cbd, cbn, etc in it.


OH yeah, THC is a powerful antioxidant more powerful than vit C**. What other chemicals are in xanax, opiates, crack, coke, meth, etc that are powerful antioxidants like THC found in marijuana???


So again, marijuana is safer than most other drugs out there. Withdrawals can be bad for some people (but not nearly as bad as those addicted to harder drugs (xanax, opiates, meth), but it really is a cakewalk compared to others (first hand experience). And while you are under the influence of weed, it provides powerful antioxidant properties to you.

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Re: Piills vs. Weed

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What other drug can you use and play other sports (football, basketball, baseball) and not throw up or have other physical side effects?
Cocaine, Methamphetamine, Amphetamines. Any team under the influence of any of these three hard drugs will beat the living shit out of a team full of stoners. I'm sure there are plenty more but these three just came to mind because uppers own downers when it comes to sports. Fuck, even caffeine would work better than cannabis if you wanna talk sports.
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Re: Pills vs. Weed

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I never said weed wasn't bad, i said that it isn't as bad for you as xanax, opiates, crack, coke, meth, etc. And yeah if an adolescent is using any drug heavily, it prob will make them dumber, marijuana included. But when did I say I supported kids using weed or any drug?
Well you're changing the goalposts a bit, aren't you? Earlier in the thread you were saying weed is less harmful than "pills", a completely meaningless category of drugs that could include more or less anything, e.g. very small doses of a weak opiate such as codeine, or a mild OTC sleep aid - or even something like ibuprofen, which isn't even psychoactive (though I guess you were talking about psychoactives). Now you're comparing weed to very hard street drugs like crack and meth. Doctors don't routinely prescribe crack, do they?

You said it doesn't impair a person. That's just not true. There's a good reason people use Adderall as a study aid, and why fighter pilots on extended missions use amphetamines, not weed. As reef88 has already pointed out, a sports team using stimulants will run rings around a sports team who are stoned. If weed was this wonder-drug you seem to think it is then how come pro athletes aren't routinely busted for using it to cheat in competitions?

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OH yeah, THC is a powerful antioxidant more powerful than vit C**. What other chemicals are in xanax, opiates, crack, coke, meth, etc that are powerful antioxidants like THC found in marijuana???
So? The idea that "antioxidants" are some sort of magic bullet that protect you from cancer or whatever is a myth. And even if some chemicals found in cannabis have some limited anti-cancer properties, that's not the same thing as smoking weed protecting you from cancer. If you want to reduce your risk of cancer, it's best to avoid deliberately inhaling any kind of smoke.

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