Drug info - Liquid LSD: Characteristics, Dosing and Other Ephemera

[Bodhisattva500]

Jatelka EDIT: This is a combined thread. The earlier posts are from before the time that the "No Self-Incrimination" rule came into play

Has anyone seen clear liquid acid before? Potency?

[Pinkavvy]

most (95%) liquid acid I've seen has been clear

[Solidly-here]

Potency ... what you put in = what you get out.


The so-called Liquid Acid is just that: LSD-25 and water.


It is quite difficult for someone to measure-out one-tenthousandth of a gram on a scale (and, consider, being off of your calculations by one thousandth of a gram would not be good). It is (much) easier to mix a known quantity of LSD in a known quantity of water (say, one gram in a liter of water).


Then you know: One dropper-full of this solution will be a good-size dose for me.


At one time, this was a BIG way to do it. At Greatful Dead concerts, anyone trying to find a dose would look for someone walking around with a little bottle in their hands. Then, they would say: "Oh, you want a dose, here." (squirt).


The reason the acid-mixture is clear is that it's 99.99% water, there isn't enough acid in there to see.

[transit]

All of the liquid lsd that swim has seen has
been clear and colourless. </span>The only lsd
that he has seen of late has been liquid.
</span>And yes it has been potent. </span>In
swim’s experience, two drops have offered a moderate trip. </span>Note that the appropriate dosage would vary enormously
depending on the ratio of lsd to water, and you won’t know unless you have
mixed it or somebody tells you or you or someone else experiments (start low).</span>

[jrock0069]

In all my years of fryin', I have never seen clear lsd. It's always been amber. (except one time, it was blue. Most likely it was from the ice drops bottle it was in.)

[BlueMystic]

I have mostly seen clear liquid. Have also seen liquid that came in other various colors. A little food coloring will go a long way. The color of the liquid has nothing to do with the potency of the product. Edited by: BlueMystic

[OiledMandible]

Almost always amber here. Blue is not unheard of, but I've never seen clear lsd.

[mf400]

It depends on what the lsd is desolved in. Ive seen it blue because it was in breath mint stuff (what came in the tiny bottle). Clear can be a number of things water or alcohol (which is excellent for carrying liquid lsd). Pure LSD itself is also clear.

[OiledMandible]

^^^True; all the blue I've ever seen was in mint dropper bottles.

[phenethylamine]

I've only seen liquid lsd colorless and clear.

[redpoppy]

Sorry peeps, before I get a UTFSE, I have done and read about 20 threads but am still confused. So I apologise in advance for my ignorance. I have put all the main questions in bold to save time.

Swim had some questions.

SWIM has realised that liquid LSD is all the rage nowadays but in SWIMs day all that was available was tabs. According to SWIM, back in her day, all tabs were in her opinion the same strength, with claims of “double/’triple dipping” being selling ploys. SWIM knew exactly how much acid would cause how much of an effect. half a tab was always what she expected from half a tab, (except once) strong enough for good visuals, pretty and strange distortions and enough awareness to not get freaked out along with great laughing fits and a good trippy day out etc.

Now SWIM is wondering just a few things. The liquid she has found can either be taken directly on the tongue in one drop right there and then (so no saving some in a plastic bag for later!) or can be provided in a sugar cube. SWIM was curious about how liquid worked and since swim had never needed to worry or concern herself previously with dosage but still knew that the dose on a tab was very very miniscule she was quite concerned about taking a pipette drop of cid. SWIM asked the relevant person about how the liquid is made or formed etc, and was told that the LSD came in crystal form and that it was then mixed or broken down with a very small amount of vodka.

SWIM was just wondering if this (above paragraph) was normal? And if so, is it just best to ask the relevant person as to how much has the desired effects for SWIM newbie friend so that it wont be too strong yet be strong enough, or does dosage vary GREATLY person to person? I know that SWIM has said that back in her day, when she would do LSD in groups and they would all take the same amount they would all have very similar experiences with similar strength of trip.

Also, since LSD has the whole black light glowing thing going on, (something SWIM ever knew before!) would the liquid or indeed the sugar cube still have a glowing quality?

Lastly, SWIM was wondering would it even be possible to just get some small bits of blotting paper and put the drop on them and store them for later, also then being able to cut the paper to a more manageable dosage?

Oh, and lastly, SWIM was wondering how soon after a trip can you do a trip again without the tolerance having been built up so that you can’t feel it? Would it be possible to test the Acid and then do it again in 2 weeks or maybe even 1 week whilst still having the same effect as expected after gaging how strong the stuff was?

Sorry if these are all obvious questions but reading all those threads I was getting a bit frazzled and was just hoping that someone could help out without me having to spend the whole evening on the forum like I did for a great while yesterday morning. SIWM and I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you!

P.S. If SWIM is being silly asking any of these questions Please let me know and I'll be sure to tell the silly nonny off!

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[CrookedEye]

Originally Posted by redpoppy

Sorry peeps, before I get a UTFSE, I have done and read about 20 threads but am still confused. So I apologise in advance for my ignorance. I have put all the main questions in bold to save time.

Swim had some questions.

SWIM has realised that liquid LSD is all the rage nowadays but in SWIMs day all that was available was tabs. According to SWIM, back in her day, all tabs were in her opinion the same strength, with claims of “double/’triple dipping” being selling ploys. SWIM knew exactly how much acid would cause how much of an effect. half a tab was always what she expected from half a tab, (except once) strong enough for good visuals, pretty and strange distortions and enough awareness to not get freaked out along with great laughing fits and a good trippy day out etc.

This is only coincidence, and the fact that LSD was normally laid at the 40-80mic per hit rate for many years, with exceptions of course.. The usual dose did the usual thing, because of your expectations and the avg dose of blotters being the norm.. Now, with several sources of LSD, and different people laying it, one can get hits ranging from almost nothing, to a few hundred mics per hit.. There isn't an easy way to tell how strong it is without trying it, or expensive/difficult testing, not accessible to the avg tripper..

Now SWIM is wondering just a few things. The liquid she has found can either be taken directly on the tongue in one drop right there and then (so no saving some in a plastic bag for later!) or can be provided in a sugar cube. SWIM was curious about how liquid worked and since swim had never needed to worry or concern herself previously with dosage but still knew that the dose on a tab was very very miniscule she was quite concerned about taking a pipette drop of cid. SWIM asked the relevant person about how the liquid is made or formed etc, and was told that the LSD came in crystal form and that it was then mixed or broken down with a very small amount of vodka.

LSD is a crystal before it is broken down into any other form.. One could get a huge dose in liquid, more so than paper, just becaue of the absorbency of each carrier, however, it wouldn't be conducive to most peoples business to make heavy doses, although it can happen.. The best bet is to speak to someone who's tried it, or start small.. One can dilute liquid to decrease potency if that is what's desired..

SWIM was just wondering if this (above paragraph) was normal? And if so, is it just best to ask the relevant person as to how much has the desired effects for SWIM newbie friend so that it wont be too strong yet be strong enough, or does dosage vary GREATLY person to person? I know that SWIM has said that back in her day, when she would do LSD in groups and they would all take the same amount they would all have very similar experiences with similar strength of trip.

Dosage does vary from person to person, as does the trip, and much has to do with set and setting.. Starting with one hit would be a good idea for a new person.. People should get similar general feelings, but the intensity has a lot to do with the person, and the way they perceive the high.. Having a few benzo's on hand for bummers is a good idea when introducing new people..

Also, since LSD has the whole black light glowing thing going on, (something SWIM ever knew before!) would the liquid or indeed the sugar cube still have a glowing quality?

LSD does show as glowing under blacklight, but so can other things.. One thing is, if it doesn't show up at all, it's not LSD..

Lastly, SWIM was wondering would it even be possible to just get some small bits of blotting paper and put the drop on them and store them for later, also then being able to cut the paper to a more manageable dosage?

Diluting liquid is possible, and yes one could drop it onto absorbent paper, or anything that one could divide, but knowing the concentration of how the paper absorbs or how evenly it is laid may be less efficient than diluting the liquid..

Oh, and lastly, SWIM was wondering how soon after a trip can you do a trip again without the tolerance having been built up so that you can’t feel it? Would it be possible to test the Acid and then do it again in 2 weeks or maybe even 1 week whilst still having the same effect as expected after gaging how strong the stuff was?

This is debatable, and Swim finds it dose dependant.. Seems the higher the dose, the longer time is needed between trips to keep the same brilliance and intensity.. Swim would suggest at least a week between dosing, but that is a personal preference, developed over years of dosing regularly..

Sorry if these are all obvious questions but reading all those threads I was getting a bit frazzled and was just hoping that someone could help out without me having to spend the whole evening on the forum like I did for a great while yesterday morning. SIWM and I would greatly appreciate it.

The answers are given, but in various threads.. Start by reading LSD basics and check the others questions in the title's as some of your questions are addressed.. But I hope this helps, for the most part...

Thank you!

P.S. If SWIM is being silly asking any of these questions Please let me know and I'll be sure to tell the silly nonny off!

You're welcome, and there are no silly questions, just silly people..

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[Philomel]

SWIM is not sure about SWIY's other questions, but SWIM knows from her own experiences that each sugar cube obtained from the same source varies greatly. SWIM usually only eats one cube per trip. Sometimes they produce strong visuals and a strong body-high, other times they produce mediocre visuals and a weak body-high that doesn't last for long. SWIM is sure that some sugar cubes are 'double-dropped' and others only contain only a single drop. SWIM has decided she should upgrade to eating two cubes at a time. If SWIY is getting cubes, SWIY should probably test them out by having one cube for the first couple of trips and see what it's like, as they could be either really intense or really weak.

[redpoppy]

SWIM was also wondering:

Instead of Vodka, can the liquid Cid (catchy that ay?) be dissloved in Water?

Would dissolving it in water alter its potency or state in any way?

and also, (along the same lines) can Liquid Cid be stored in Water? Like a lot of it. say about half a litres worth?

Just SWIM was asking me these things and i didn't know. SWIM is very curious.

Oh and SWIM would like to clarify that she means lots of water and not a lot of Cid.

As in, could a drop of Cid be successfully be stored in a pint of water say?

SWIM is very curious and would love any responses!

Thanks in advance.

and before any asks, yes i have UTFSE.

[redpoppy]

Thanks Jatelka, Please delete the last post!

Okay, SWIM has found out that WATER is bad for LSD.

HOw about storing it in other non alcoholic drinks or food? Yogurt? Milk? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know most food and drinks have a high water content so this could be tricky.

Any help before this afternoon would be very very useful to SWIM

[Micklemouse]

A Certain Mouse read this & guesses that 'the day' RedPoppies' friend harks back to would be sometime in the Nineties on a on a funny little island off the coast of Europe, in which case the acid going around was very uniform on the whole, & rather yummy too, on paper at least, & this Particular mouse guesstimates slightly higher than CE, with probably 60 - 120 mics, with microdots being much, much higher.

A Certain Mouse tells me that when liquid acid started cropping up in the late nineties he found it a tad disappointing, giving a fantastic fractal patterning but very little else in the way of a meaningful experience - bear in mind this was towards the end of this Particular Mouse's seeking out of Alice, but he had a couple of trips left in him before She let him know that they had worked out what they had to work out. Also many of his nestmates testified to the glory of it all, & no, there was no chance of it being a 2-C or DOx before anyone asks...

In recent times the liquid he's come across has usually been stored in mouthwash or breath-freshener with the odd vial of 'pure' liquid coming through. That said, many of the 'mintier' solutions have been reported to be stronger than the 'pure' ones. Russian Roulette anyone..?

The best advice you could give your friend would be to try & get a report from the source, or monkeys with experience as close to the source if possible. People's production & distribution of this little bridge has always been highly variable, & the only way to guage it is to either advise your friend to start low & see what it does, or get some knowledge straight from the horse's mouth.

A Certain Mouse tells me that he agrees with CE's time scale for redosing , & would definitely recommend a bit longer to reasonably digest what has been shown - going back in too soon can be destructive, especially if looking for something found whilst tripping & seemingly lost. Alice is apparently a marvellous teacher, but Her patience is limited - keep asking the same questions & She'll get bored , & start feeding SWiYou silly answers that only serve to confuse. She seems to work on a 'Garbage In, Garbage Out' system, & this way bad trips lie. If you're lucky...

Hope this makes sense, & helps a little. Apologies if it doesn't - it's been a long night, & a Certain Mouse should be in bed!

[CrookedEye]

The purity of the LSD can effect which are effective solvents for dissolving it. Needlepoint will dissolve in distilled water.. Less pure samples need alcohol to properly dissolve.. Swim would assume alcohol to be a better solvent for storage, but has had plenty of LSD dissolved in water, that seemed to last for a few months (longest he has ever kept it)..

[DonPeyote]

A friend of a friends uncles aunts mother told me about liquid LSD available on Maui (Hawaii). Each drop costs xx. This friend told me that the one "Drop" made him wired, but was not psychedelic- no geometric patterning, visions, hallucinations, etc.
Anybody on the Forum know whats up with the current dosing in liquid 'L'? My guess is, that if it's for real -Lysergic acid diethylamide- than each drop is about 50mcg, and 4 or 5 drops will do the trick.

My Uncles grandma's cat has a sugar cube, and will try it tomorrow to see what may be revealed.

Any help and/or edification regarding liquid 'L' in Hawaii is most welcome and appreciated.

Muchos Alohas!

DP


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[Micklemouse]

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As for the question - it all depends on how dilute the liquid is. Could be 50 mcg, could be 250. It is impossible to say until your grandmother's flamingo tries it, & compares it to other's experiences.

The best advice would be to ask the advice of the vendor as to how many drops are appropriate for what sort of effect, then ask somebody else who has taken the same batch. If this information is not available, start small & be patient.

Guessing is not an option. There is no guarantee that the acid will be evenly distributed within the solution, there may have been other factors that may have weakened SWiY information sources trip - medication, diet, natural immunity, tolerance & cross-tolerance (has the original tripper taken acid, or other psychedelics, other than the liquid in the last week or so?)

Is SWiY 100% certain that what is in the liquid is actually LSD-25 & not some random chem? If the answer is yes, is SWiY is highly experienced with psychedlics? We are talking the difference between a 200 mcg dose (which is a pretty heavy trip n itself) if the drops are 50mcg, and potentially a 400 - 1000 mcg trip (which is a heroic dose that many will have trouble coming back from intact).

Be careful, kittling...

[avs405]

SWIM wants to know if this liquid lsd is too much more pontent than normal lsd... SWIM never see that before...

SWIM thinks that its impossible to find something like that here..

[snow child]

lsd, in the liquid form can be many diffent things. and buy the sound of if this was not lsd. LSD is a drug that shows the user the world in the light. swim would know if this is what swim had.
There are many good things hawaii.
rc's mostly....

[CherryCake]

How common is Liquid LSD? SWIM hears about Liquid LSD all the time and how it is apparently easier to get than tab's these days.

Is this true or could it be a bunch of intolerant bigots like me selling Liquid Kratom or Salvia?

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[wellhelm]

First there are people on this forum that are homosexual don't offend them. Second how could anyone confuse kratom or salvia with lsd?

[CherryCake]

Not everyone know's what an LSD trip is like; i'm sure it wouldent be hard to fool someone into buying liquid Kratom or Salvia.

[Powder_Reality]

CherryCake, you are correct that it would be easy selling someone something completely different than liquid LSD. A street dealer could sell drops of tapwater and label it liquid LSD if they wanted to (which is why SWIY should always know their sources).

But the plain fact is that the effects of LSD are very different from other psychoactive substances. SWIM has never heard of people selling liquid kratom extracts. But one thing that SWIM is sure of is that that particular dealer would probably lose a lot of business if all his customers were complaining that their "LSD" was producing opiate-like effects.

In SWIM's opinion, if SWIY doesn't know the difference between the effects of LSD and the effects of salvia or kratom, then SWIY probably shouldn't be taking LSD. Just SWIM's 2 cents.