Health - New drug leads to teen’s overdose (AKA DOC hits the papers in Michigan USA)

[illuminati boy]

Original Source:http://www.hometownlife.com/apps/pbc...659/1039/RSS15 (and thanks to teetmanike on another board for the orginal find)


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New drug leads to teen's overdose



Parents, don't have enough to worry about? Looks like there's a new drug in town.
At least that was the case last week, when Troy officers investigated an incident involving a drug called "DOC." It began May 24, when Bloomfield Township police officers reported a 17-year-old girl from their town was taken to the hospital for a possible drug overdose. She reportedly had been at a house on Malvern in Troy where she claimed she took the drugs. Officers responded to the home, where the 19-year-old man who lived at the home refused them entry.

While speaking with the 19-year-old, officers learned three other individuals within the home were experiencing reactions to the same substance. An 18-year-old man from Bloomfield Hills was seen walking into the walls, dazed and completely naked. He was brought to the door and taken to the hospital. Two other men from Bloomfield Township, 18 and 19 respectively, that also reportedly ingested the substance, were disoriented and dazed. They also were brought out and taken to the hospital.
The three men were evaluated and later released. The parents returned home after the three men were transported; they had been contacted by cell phone by the 19-year-old. They initially declined officers' access to the residence, but eventually consented.
Officers found a teen boy from another city inside the home. Investigation revealed he purchased a drug called "DOC" in crystalline form, and based on information he obtained from a Web site, mixed it into a liquid and soaked art paper with the solution. He cut it into pieces and was selling and giving it away at the party.
Officers didn't find the drug during their search, but located marijuana residue and paraphernalia consistent with its use and suspect it may have been being used; however, it was disposed of prior to officers' entry. DOC is a newer psychedelic street drug and is a combination of hallucinogenic and amphetamine. Apparently it is touted as providing a "24-hour high."
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I thought I would place in Research Chemicals due to the topic, though mods feel free to move to Drugnews if more appropriate.

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Reputation Comments on this post:

Great find

[radiometer]

I'm surprised it's taken this long.

Investigation revealed he purchased a drug called "DOC" in crystalline form, and based on information he obtained from a Web site, mixed it into a liquid and soaked art paper with the solution. He cut it into pieces and was selling and giving it away at the party.

I wonder if this Boy Genius is one of the numerous bluelight members who started threads asking how to put DOC on blotter?

[snapper]

When SWIM goes to a party, nothing livens it up more than a little DOC. SWIM loves to arbitrarily drop an approximate dose onto SWIM's art paper and share. WHAT FUN it is to watch all your freinds lose their cookies !

SWIM is surprised that something like this has only now occurred. DOC is just too powerful for most people, and episodes a la STP have already and will continue to occur because of it having been so easy to get. SWIM couldn't imagine recommending this stuff to anyone not prepared and experienced enough to tolerate it.
Can't say SWIM is surprised, though..
Snapper

[raven3davis]

Walking around naked? Walking into walls? They definitely took too much. Shit like this shouldnt happen. Dont give DOC to people that are going to end up in the hospital. People need to wise up, because articles like this are exactly what will get DOC scheduled. Better stock up!

[Abrad]

Apparently it is touted as providing a "24-hour high."

By who? I hope they don't mean a vendor.

[illuminati boy]

While normally a very non-violent person, my personal take on this is something along the lines of distributing largely unknown doses of a known powerful compound to a 17 y/o warrants a swift kick in the nuts!

On the serious side, I think incidents like this and others I have seen recently on various other boards will lead to a comprehensive scheduling in the US. There will be a bill like the one in the UK or simply one that lists the contents of PiHKAL and TiHKAL (active and inactive no doubt) and simply declares them all verboten. I think it is also fairly likely that if England and the US have banned most of the PiHKAL and TiHKAL children, the Canadians will follow suit. But Psychedelic Index is due out here this year, so maybe a crop of really weird shit might start showing up (DOT-7-DFLY anyone?)… heaven help us if any of it is able to fit on blotter though…

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[illuminati boy]

Originally Posted by illuminati boy

I think incidents like this and others I have seen recently on various other boards will lead to a comprehensive scheduling in the US.

Oh, I guess THIS must be it:

"[Federal Register: May 25, 2006 (Volume 71, Number 101)]
[Proposed Rules]
[Page 30097-30100]
From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
[DOCID:fr25my06-22]

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DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

Drug Enforcement Administration

21 CFR Part 1300

[Docket No. DEA-260P]
RIN 1117-AA94

Definition of ``Positional Isomer'' as It Pertains to the Control
of Schedule I Controlled Substances

AGENCY: Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), U.S. Department of
Justice.

ACTION: Notice of proposed rulemaking..."

EDIT: Looks like there is a thread up on this one in Law and order.

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[Nagognog2]

Originally Posted by abrad84

By who? I hope they don't mean a vendor.

Oh let's do find out! Sharpen your knives' boys. A'huntin' we should go...but I've already got a good guess who. I'll bet a few of you also do.

[Abrad]

And Bromo-Dragonfly is now available. That could be a disaster.

[fatal]

Originally Posted by abrad84

And Bromo-Dragonfly is now available. That could be a disaster.

nonsense... no one who is too ignorant is going to pay prices like that... asshats like those will just buy 2c-i or something... not the hardcore psychedelics that cost 1,000,000$ a gram (not literally but damn...)

[enquirewithin]

An 18-year-old man from Bloomfield Hills was seen walking into the walls, dazed and completely naked. He was brought to the door and taken to the hospital.

Funny. An acquaintence of SWIM's behaved in a very similar way after taking DOB a while back.

[fatal]

great... stock up for the winter boys... itll be a long and harsh one

[snapper]

Bromo-dragonfly is really difficult to use according to the reports I have read. Seems like orally the activity is limited and much higher doses are necessary. Wonder what's gonna happen when someone snorts some, though - particularly after being frustrated that a whole milligram did nothing orally ?
All it takes is one person with a cc# and the wrong idea planted in their head to pull this one off... Sometimes I feel like I am too paranoid, but usually my paranoia is well founded. They would have been better off selling DOC or DOI than this stuff. At least the DOx are more predictable.


Snapper

[radiometer]

A while back, when b-dfly hit the market, many of us made dire predictions about the trainwrecks which would ensue. I even corresponded with vendors, suggesting they stop selling it.

The bullet seemed to be dodged when early reports suggested that it was not orally active. Now I'm wondering if the problems were simply deferred. Time will tell. SWIMs got a couple mg tucked away in case it turns out to be interesting.

[grandbaby]

One may remember (this was mentioned in the "stupid people and RCs" thread, I think) the 15-year-olds who wound up in the hospital after taking 20+mgs of DOC. Its recent surging popularity can lead one only to the conclusion that it is a trainwreck waiting to happen. With the media so eager to jump on any drug-related story ("Parents, don't have enough to worry about? Here's something to get you wound up! News at 11!") it's a near-sure thing that comprehensive and compound-specific scheduling is going to occur in many countries soon. I've been predicting that with Canada's new prime minister's "tough on crime" stance amounting to slapping every wrist that's available to be slapped, a surefire winner for Harper would be to schedule everything and then aggressively target relatively harmless end-users. The recent beheading threats have possibly thrown a distraction up (thanks, fanatics!) but it's comin' down the line, sure as shootin'. I know folks are stocking up, because they can smell the direction of the prevailing wind.

DOC is already scheduled in Canada, oddly (although its supposedly less pleasant cousin, DOI, isn't, yet).

[Dogears]

This guy probably had no idea how to lay a sheet of DOC or didn't use a scale or something along those lines, and thus massive overdose resulted.

This is exactly why drugs need to be legal and legal for humman consumption. Powerful drugs should be made and dosses messured by people with proper chemical training. Not some dorky teen who thinks he can eye ball a drug with dosses in the few mg range.

[glogga]

^^^

That wouldn't schedule DOC, as DOC isn't any type of isomer of a schedule I compouned (because of the chlorine).

[Nagognog2]

That depends on how a Federal prosecutor tries to define 'isomer' to a Judge. Chemists do know what an isomer is/means. Do you think these clowns do? Not likely. They would argue 'intent' of law - to "protect the people!' and the semantics would vanish to the Republikan Judge that would be arranged to try the test-case.

Figure it this way - they want to use the analogue act with greater efficasy to prosecute anybody they don't like. Such as idiots who go selling DOC blotter to school kids. This is the intent.

Want to stop this from setting a precedent and causing countless people from ending up in courts and/or jails? Try to teach people in your community to act responsibly and not let kids with little clue get their paws on such.

[glogga]

^^^

The definition of 'isomer' is clear. It has to have the same number of each element in the molecule, i.e. the same molecular formula. This change only changes the definition of 'positional isomer'. And if you read it says right in it: "(2) Have the same molecular formula" as part of the definition. It does not allow for a re-definition of 'isomer' that has a different molecular formula.

This change also amends the CSA, not the analog act. DOC is already an alalog of DOB under the analog act. But it is not an isomer of any kind of a schedule I compound because no schedule I compound has the same molecular formula. So nothing about this change changes the status of DOC.

[illuminati boy]

You might want to look at some of the discussion in the other thread as (4) has “except that” language that would allow for greater latitude and the introductory statement (which is considered in interpretations) would still hold that DEA has the power to make final determination on what is covered. This particular finding may or may not be immediately relevant to DOC in particular, but the point of my including it was to note which direction the wind is clearly blowing in North America. If this new language is accepted, it will certainly have applicability to some of the compounds mentioned in PiHKAL and TiHKAL.

I will try to keep any further positional isomer comments (by me anyway) to the thread dealing with the proposed change(s).

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[radiometer]

Either way, I seriously doubt that this will be the last legislation we will see enacted on this subject.

[Nagognog2]

It is just a matter of time before the bible-thumpers outlaw every concievable molecule with a potential for psychedelic activity. They are busily playing with semantics at present, until they can "get it right." To bet otherwise would be, in my opinion, naive. I mean, are these characters likely to relax drug laws? No. Are they likely to leave well enough alone when dumb kids wind up in the ER? No. The laws will be made airtight. And this will be due, in no small part, to the actions of a few money-grubbing S.O.B's selling molecules like DOC to 7th graders in Nebraska.

That's what I see coming down the road. Unfortunately, I tend to be right.

[N0ly]

DOC is way too powerful to eyebal an amount let alone just dissolve some in an aqueous solution and blot it. Or even just take small amounts of the water till the desired effect is obtained, with patience of course. The average dose for DOC is only 1.75mg that is way to small to control without proper equipment.

[nanobrain]

is it any wonder,
i wonder if we can...

[illuminati boy]

Updated information on the DOC story mentioned in the OP

From The Detroit News:

Friday, June 02, 2006

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Teens may have used rare drug in Troy
Four are treated after taking substance at house party; DEA tests could prompt charges.
Shawn D. Lewis / The Detroit News

TROY -- The Oakland County Sheriff's Department is awaiting a toxicology report to decide whether charges may be leveled as a result of a Troy house party at which four teens were hospitalized after taking a little-known street drug.
Undersheriff Michael McCabe said the federal Drug Enforcement Administration has speeded up its testing process after the drug -- known as DOC, an acronym for the chemicals it's composed of -- turned up in OaklandCounty for the second time in the last eight months.
"The first time was in October in Royal Oak, where evidence of it was found in a private residence," he said.
McCabe said since the drug is so new and unfamiliar, the department asked the DEA to test a sample back in October.
"But it was only one case, and the DEA is very busy, so it probably wasn't top priority," he said. "Now that we have a second case, they're acting on it, analyzing it, and we expect the results in about two weeks."
If the drug is found to contain illegal chemicals, charges could be brought in the Troy case, McCabe said.
Police say the new drug, which is a combination of an amphetamine and a hallucinogen similar to LSD, was being used by a group of teens at a party on Malvern Street in Troy on May 24.
A 17-year-old female resident from BloomfieldTownship was held overnight in a local hospital, while three other male teens -- two 18-year-olds and a 19-year-old -- were treated and released. Police said they found one of the males, an 18-year-old from Bloomfield Hills, naked, dazed and walking into the walls. Police said the 19-year-old resident of the home held the party while his parents were away. The Troy police report said an adult male from another city at the party told them he purchased the drug in crystalline form, and based on information he obtained from a Web site, mixed it into a liquid and soaked art paper with the solution. He then cut it into pieces and was selling or giving it away. The actual drug was not found at the party. Troy police said the BloomfieldTownship girl had returned home and became ill. While being transported in an ambulance to the hospital, she told medics she had taken DOC at a party, and that's when police were alerted.
You can reach Shawn D. Lewis at (248) 647-8825 or slewis@ detnews.com.

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