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The following information is from SWIFantasian's Personal journal.
" Codeine - an opiate derieved directly from the opiate poppy, for weak to moderate pain. Commonly prescribed when paracetamol or weak NSAIDS have little or no effect. Natural opiate Clinical dosages(uk) - 30 - 90mg Upcome - 30 mintes - 1 hour Peak - 2 hour 30 minutes come down - 2 hours Total duration - 6 hours (average) ((duration is prolonged at higher dosages)) 30mg - Nothing felt here, no recreational potential at this dosage. 60mg - Nothing really felt at this dosage, when taken for a headache or similar aching type pain tends to work slightly better than weaker pain killers. Still no recreational value. 90mg - The threshold effects for a recreational experience, a slight tingling and relaxed feeling. No other effects of opiates are noted at this point. 150mg - Definate effects are felt at this dosage, slight sedation, tingling present and a general sense of relaxation commonly felt with many opiates. Urinary rentention seen at this point as well as constapation. There is a euphoria at this dosage which isnt seen at the lower 3. It should be noted there are significant day after effects, of sickness and general roughness similar to that of a hangover. 210mg - With this dosage i felt a significant jump from the 150mg dosage, euphoria is much more present as is sedation, tingling definately present throughout the experience. Slight nausea is present but nothing too intense. Movement becomes difficult once the peak is reached and urinary retentation lasts well into the day after the experience and constapation further so. The day after effects are also more significant making for a day in bed recovering. Codeine dosage was stopped here due to worries about toxicity. |
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Dose: 250mg oral (extract)
60mg oral (liquid) Bodyweight: 65kg E.T had a rather stressful week so he decided to take some codeine to help him relax. As his parents were going out for the night he had the perfect opportunity to do this. 16:30-20:30 E.T went to the local chemist and bought a pack of 32 Co-Codamol (500mg acetaminophen/paracetamol with 8mg codeine & NO caffeine) and used a extraction technique mentioned in the forum. Once E.T done this he added 60ml of 'Pholcodeine' (a cough mixture that contains codeine phosphate & no other active ingredients) to make up for what he lost during the extraction and to make the mixture taste better. E.T then made himself a 'bed' on the floor of his living room. 20:30 E.T drank the mixture each time holding it in his mouth for approx 20 seconds before swallowing to help it to come on faster. 20:35 E.T began to feel the warmth, euphoria & relaxation that he normally gets when taking opiates. 20:45 The itching that E.T normally gets when taking codeine began. He normally find that if he ignores the itching it goes away within a few minutes but if he starts scratching it will continue to itch until the peak effects begin to fade. 21:00 By this time E.T could hardly feel the rest of his body and the other effects peaked at around this time. Also the itching no longer bothered him. 21:30 E.T watched 'Black Books' and he noticed that he found it far funnier that normal and the picture seemed brighter & sharper. 21:45 As the peak effects began to subside E.T drank a further 100ml of the cough medicine. Over the next few minutes the euphoria became more intense that after his initial dose. 22:15 E.T eventually (when on opiates he can never be bothered to do anything apart from laying back and doing nothing) got up to put some relaxing music on. Alabama 3�s 'Peace in the valley' seemed particularly appropriate as he now felt at peace with himself whereas a few hours earlier he wanted to scream at everyone who even held up his journey home by a few seconds. He also felt as though he was away from the things he hates (like a valley is isolated from the surrounding world). 23:00 E.T tidied the house up before his parents came home and found out what he has been doing. Then he took the rest of the cough medicine (approx. 50ml) and went to bed. 01:00 E.T's parents came home so he pretended to be asleep so they wouldn't catch on to what he has been doing. E.T must've fallen asleep shortly after, as he cant remember much after his parents came home. 10:30 E.T woke up feeling blissed out. In conclusion this was one of the best trips E.T had on codeine, as he didn't feel any nausea, which is quite abnormal for him. E.T guesses this was because he was laid down or that he had gotten used to it. |
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(Do not remember the dosage, sorry.)
SWIM tryed codeine one day, everyone else was, but it was a stressfull day, so SWIM went along. Normally, SWIM does not do any drugs until he knows as much as possible about them, and never does drugs just because everyone else is, or to say that he did them, but this one day was different, it was just stressfull. SWIM didnt mind the effects of the codein, but did not appreciate how it made his nose sore and eventually bleed. SWIM will not use codeine again. Cheers, RPS |
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Was your nose sore from snorting or from itched? Any other information on your experience would be great. |
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swim sometimes get a little nose bleed from codeine. As it does what its sometimes perscribed for, it will dry up all mucus membranes espically in the nose, which leads to swim's itching there nose causing bleeding, because the nose is so dried up.
If your swim can get the rite doseage for you, as little as possible but enough to get a buzz, the dryness decrease's alot Swim has never noticed this effect with most other opiates, swim use's 1 1/3 cup of powdered ground poppies each day in his PT, and never has the nose trouble, nor with morphine or dihydrocodeine. |
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Also i find its much easier with codeine to judge your dose, if you buy the neurofen plus and chop them, as you lose almost no codeine compared to the CWE. And there have been rumors that neurofen plus have changed the tablet slighly, but is still very easy to chop, in the UK atleast
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neurofen changed their plus tablets some years ago for the precise reason that you can't chop them down the middle. All you're getting if you do that now is half a tablet's worth of both. CWEs are quick if you're prepared to drink the water and easy enough if you have a thermometer.
Will post some codeine experiences in a few hours. |
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A quick search suggests 'pholcodine' is an OTC cough syrup at 5mg/5ml strength with no other products apart from alcohol and lots of glucose. Could be useful to people wishing to boost levels obtained from CWEs as HandyMan did.
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Pholcodine does not cross the blood-brain barrier and therefore is inactive.
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Swim used to coat his spliffs with codeine cough syrup. He was wondering if this was just a waste or if it could actually do anything besides changing the taste?
Swim also got prescribed codeine cough syrup on multiple occaisions. He used it recreationally a few times, but mostly to help him get to sleep. Just chug a bit out of the bottle and swim would be feeling nice and sleepy and be able to pass out no problem. This was helpful as swim has some problems sleeping. |
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probably just changes the taste. no one swim knows has had any luck smoking codeine, or for that matter vicodin.
swiBajeda should try staying awake for the experience, maybe try 60-90 mg for starters and enjoy the ride. SWIM for his part finds 120-150 mg to create a state of mild euphoria, far less pronounced or "forced" than oxycodone, fentanyl, etc., but is also accompanied by a warm feeling of calm, which he does not experience with harder opiates. he'll get more talkative for the next 4 hours and sleep easily that night. however since the intensity of the experience is not much, he prefers harder compounds. |
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Can someone please reply REALLY quickly right now?
I took 240mg of codeine phosphate and I'm not feeling well (shortness of breath) and I'm about to pass out - does codeine knock you out? I literally feel like I'm going to get knocked out and I don't know if I will live after that. If I do, I will try to post my experience but right now it's not looking good - someone please reply right now. |
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Possibly an allergic reaction, get to hospital.
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Yes, get help now. Now, not later. When you have the time to answer this: Are SWIY on any other drugs or medicines at the moment, or just codeine?
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OK I'm back from the hospital. I was given charcoal in order to absorb the codiene that was still left in my stomach and liver. I now feel much better as the effects are not continuing anymore. As for the report, here it goes:
DREADFUL CODEINE TRIP Substance(s): Codeine phoshate and acetaminophen (EMTAC-3) Dose: 240mg oral (8x 30mg tablets) Bodyweight: 64kg 12:20am I have never had a recreational codeine experience before and this was my first time. I actually was going to take 1 or 2 tablets MAX because I was having severe lower back pain at the time. Howerver, I thought that I might as well get high while I make my back pain go away. Due to having a moderately high tolerance, I decided to take 240mg of codeine in total... so I took all 8 tablets in one shot on an empty stomach. 12:25am Almost right aways I started feeling the coming up effects. I felt a bit of a tingly and relaxed feeling that I knew would soon go into a full out anaesthetic feeling. 12:40am I felt a strong euphoria and for the next 10 minutes I felt "connected with the world" and with everything that was around me. It gave me a fake feeling of well-being. 12:50am The euphoria started to slowly evaporate but the anaesthetic effect started coming in. I was now not able to fully feel my legs and rest of my body. I felt like I was starting to float as I walked and the ground felt slightly soft. This exact feeling continued for about an hour. 1:50am Not being able to feel my body, I thought that it would be a good time to go to sleep then. I lay in bed and enjoyed the rush that was going through my completely numb body. My vision got a little bit distorted and colors became vivider. I had faint and colorless closed eye visuals in various calleodoscopic patterns. My perception of sound has also been a bit altered by this time and things sounded a bit louder but all blended together. At that time I was also trying to feel my hands and rest of my body and I put my hands on my chest and almost passed out from shock - I couldn't feel my heartbeat. 2:00am I'm still lying in bed but feeling all nervous and worried that my heart might stop working. I'm not sure what was happening at this point but I started feeling sick and nauseated and I think that my heart started pumping way faster because I was VERY nervous at that time and any sound made me trip out. Everytime I heard the periodical clicking the fan in my room, my vision went completely white for one second and I felt like vomiting. At that time my vision and hearing got altered to a point that I couldn't consider that to be normal anymore. 2:30am I finally get out of bed because I'm nauseating and am short on breath. At times I would start missing some breathing cycles but I wasn't noticing that at the time - though I would just come back with a few quick and desperate gasps for air to compensate for that. I went to the bathroom and was ready to puke. I couldn't pee or take a crap though... 3:00am I'm feeling sick, dizzy, disorientated, nauseated, numb, cold, and my thoughts became delusional. At this time I'm starting to notice that I'm missing breathing cycles and get really worried. My heart is also pumping really fast and I can actually feel it at this time. The rest of my body is still very numb. 3:30am I tried lying down in bed again but couldn't stay for more five minutes as I felt like I was going to get knocked out. I wasn't sure if I would be alive the next day if I let the codeine knock me out, so I got out of bed and kept on wetting my face with cold water in order to stay awake. My pupils were pin-sized. 4:00am Feeling like I'm about to get knocked out of conciousness ANY second now, I decide to go to the hospital. Called up my best friend and got him to give me a ride as I trippin' balls in the passenger seat on the way there. 4:30am I'm finally treated for drug poisoning. 5:00am I'm starting to come down and feeling more 'into this world'. I wasn't delusional anymore and my body was rapidly starting to feel normal again. The numbness went away in 10 minutes after I was given charcoal. 5:30am Recoving from a horrible crash and a very fast come down, I drink some apple juice and that immediately makes me feel much better. 6:00am I get home and feel good now. Thanks to the guys that suggested I should get to the hospital right aways. I believe that making that choice has saved me from future complications - and perhaps a good chance of death. I'm currently taking a prescription drug called Accutane (isotretinoin), however, I doubt that codeine might have a negative reaction with it. |
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SWIM forgot to call himself SWIM in the previous post - why the hell is there no edit function on this forum? Oh well, everyone knows who SWIM is anyway, goddamnit.
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Glad SWIY is feeling better bassdrum. I could not find any info regarding Isotretinoin in combination with Codeine specifically, but it seems like Isotretinoin could cause a lot of severe side-effects even on it's own, so I would be extremely careful and do lots of digging around for information before even considering combining it with other substances.
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![]() BajEdit: And as for isotretinoin, Swim was on that a few years ago himself. Considering that they do tests on your liver every month while you're on it swim decided to abstain from any drug besides marijuana, especially those that are ingested and most likely go through your liver, like alcohol or any cough syrup. |
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SWIM thinks that some codeine powder (taken from a crushed codeine pill or br evaporating the results of cold water extraction) mixed with some weed and rolled into a joint makes for a very nice body stone with enhanced euphoria and well being. SWIM thinks it feels like being in a warm spa pool.
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Re: Codeine experiences
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Accutane surely made your liver metabolize codeine faster and at a higher rate than usual. Liver usually coverts 7-11% of the codeine into morphine and there is a 10% of the population whose liver is actually unable to do this. That's why some people don't feel it or only have side effects. When swim was prescribed accutane he was informed that is hard on the liver and his doctor said to avoid alcohol TOTALLY. He repeated this many times as SWIM told him he was a usual weekend drinker. SWIM did and stayed away from every drug although by that time he didn't use drugs anyway. As for the topic, SWIM always gets pleasant trips whe he does codeine. Pure codeine phosphate pills are somehow OTC in SWIM'S country. Is the only opiate SWIM has done. Here are some experiences: 90 mg 1 hour after dinner: Not too much if anything at all. He ingested 2 more pills 1.5 hours later and smoke some weed. Weed made him a lot more stoned that usually. 150 mg 2 hours after dinner. He noticed the warm feeling of it and strong analgesia. T+3 hours and he was coming down, a bit of nausea and mentally drained. 200 mg 2 hours after dinner: Same as above with added itching and some euphoria. 230-290 mg 2 hours after dinner. This is swim's favorite dosage, a lot of itching and euphoria. Dream like states. There is also a hard comedown sometimes and it takes too long to reach an orgasm but sex actually feels good. The euphoria is short lived for swim, it lasts about 10 munutes of rush, and then it comes in waves for 20 minutes. |
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Re: Codeine experiences
SWIM's experiences. Recited by moi.
I skipped low doses and started at 250mg. So here goes. 250mg: Slight sedation 20 mins after drinking (oh and yuck btw). Started to feel tingly. Wanted to sleep. Felt slight euphoria 30 mins in. Sorta nice, hard to describe, content feeling. Waves of warmth. Itchies. 360mg: Same as above, with more severe itchies. 50mg Diphenhydramine helped. This is not recommended, though. 400mg: Actually CWE'd 430mg of Codeine but due to loss, estimated it at around 400mg. EXTREME itchies and BAAAAAAD headache. This worried me owing to the amount of analgesic flowing around my body how I still had one. Anyhoo.... I fell asleep about 45 mins after drinking, and slept for 23 hours. I didn't know that was possible.... Ended dosage there. Anything over 400 is a waste. Doses above 300 I wouldn't recommend. It must bugger the liver somewhat. EDIT - PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS POST IS NOT AIMED AT INDIVIDUALS WITH LOW OR NON-ESIXTENT CODEINE TOLERANCE! ALL DOSES QUOTED CONCERN MY PERSONAL USE, AND AS SUCH MAY DIFFER GREATLY FROM OTHER'S. YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY. Last edited by darkglobe; 08-03-2007 at 14:08. |
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