Tramadol experiences

[sarbanes]

Originally Posted by Benzonater

Yep! I said it before and I'll say it again. Tramadol is utterly and completely useless!!!!!! It is garbage and anyone who says it gets them so buzzed up and it's so great need a check up from tha neck up!

2 bad 4U. Us trammies nod big time. Oh yeh, its for reals, itches and all. Jello legs, not anting to move an inch and huge grin. Oh yeah! Go to Erowid tramadol experience vault - you'll see all the lowing tramdol experiences there;

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[Benzonater]

Originally Posted by sarbanes

2 bad 4U. Us trammies nod big time. Oh yeh, its for reals, itches and all. Jello legs, not anting to move an inch and huge grin. Oh yeah! Go to Erowid tramadol experience vault - you'll see all the lowing tramdol experiences there;

Shure'n oi've been to Erowid vaults a couple a million times.

Catch yerself on fella! yer away in tha head ya minger!

All tha best ye scanger!

[SumoCat]

SWIM'S First Tramadol Experiences:

1. Ultram 100mg w/Norco 10/325

Wonderful. Seemed to have a potentiation effect. Effects of Norco felt stronger and longer. Only negatives involved a bit of a numbing sensation and mild hypomania.

2. Ultracet 100/mg with Apap and 5 mg Flexeril *while on psych med Lamictal, which appears to interact with Tramadol's anticholingergic effects.

During this dose, SWIM was already in a considerable amount of pain before hand. SWIM was also spaced out. These were not drug side-effects, but effects from her monthly cycle.

Not a good experience. While Ultracet did turn off every other pain point in her body, it did not address nerve pain. Spacyness was increased by a factor of 5. Muscle rigidity was an issue. Had a driven, uncomfortable feeling. Not recommended.

[Forthesevenlakes]

Originally Posted by SumoCat

SWIM'S First Tramadol Experiences:

1. Ultram 100mg w/Norco 10/325

Wonderful. Seemed to have a potentiation effect. Effects of Norco felt stronger and longer. Only negatives involved a bit of a numbing sensation and mild hypomania.

2. Ultracet 100/mg with Apap and 5 mg Flexeril *while on psych med Lamictal, which appears to interact with Tramadol's anticholingergic effects.

During this dose, SWIM was already in a considerable amount of pain before hand. SWIM was also spaced out. These were not drug side-effects, but effects from her monthly cycle.

Not a good experience. While Ultracet did turn off every other pain point in her body, it did not address nerve pain. Spacyness was increased by a factor of 5. Muscle rigidity was an issue. Had a driven, uncomfortable feeling. Not recommended.

interesting, swim never found that tramadol potentiated other opiates much, but maybe thats just something specific to him. tramadol has anticholinergic effects too? swim thought it was just opioid and 5-HT effects. the 5-HT would account for the rigid/stimulated feeling that swiy probably felt.

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by forthesevenlakes

interesting, swim never found that tramadol potentiated other opiates much, but maybe thats just something specific to him. tramadol has anticholinergic effects too? swim thought it was just opioid and 5-HT effects. the 5-HT would account for the rigid/stimulated feeling that swiy probably felt.

It commonly has the opposite effects of potentiation since it binds more readily than alot of substances hence it's use in withdrawal. However Im guessing from the experience above this might not always be the case.

In response to the statement by BUZZFACTOR i also have to strongly disagree, many people have gained posative recreational effects from this drug and even SWIFantasian himself has experienced its pleasures. True it cannot be compared to the euphoria of something like morphine but then it isnt suppose to be so intense.

[SumoCat]

SevenLakes: Yes, strange but true, it has anticholinergic effects according to SWIM's doctor, *but* SWIM needs to clarify this to a finer point:

One generally hears Tramadol recommended due to *lack* of anticholinergic effects. What this really means is that the effects were mild in healthy control groups.

As with all meds, these things can change when one has drug interactions. SWIM was/is taking several other meds, one of which increases anticholinergic effects when it interacts with Tramadol.

So, grain of salt SWIM is not a doctor. Everyone's mileage will vary!
-Sumo

[Nahbus]

SWIM has done Tramadol a couple handfuls of times.
Most of the time he takes 2 50mg pills. Usually is pretty subtle, but notices he is very chatty, somewhat euphoric, and completely rid of anxiety for about 5 hours or so. Usually after, SWIM has overwhelming fatigue, which will DEFINATELY win the battle and make SWIM pass out. Everytime except for one time. WIth or without smoking pot, trying energy drinks, etc. Tramadol makes SWIM pass RIGHT out like a light, unlike any other opiate (he make get some sedation with hydro's and whatnot, but nothing he can't overcome). Very nice high for SWIM, though.

[Nahbus]

Interesting, SWIM wonders why this drug has such a variety effects for different people. Seems much wider of an effect spectrum than other drugs..
SWIM has very pronounced, intense and different effects from most drugs than others taking the same amount (most drugs he's taken, and he's taken a lot), though.

[stoneinfocus]

Swim has taken it first time and felt some sedation and relaxt feeling, slight optical change and a warm enthusiasm.

But the effects differ in swim, tending to become more sedative than anything else the longer the drug is apllied and not doing a very good job at killing swims pain, although there were times when swim had stimulating effects because of Tramadols serotonergic action and I think it elevates noradrenaline, too?

[searcher]

I take the stuff because I have a bad back. It makes my neuropathy and arthritis a little less painful. If I take more than 1 in 4 hours (50 mg) I have puked. They don't get you high at all.

[kingkenny]

People should really try and avoid making such generalisations, they may not get YOU high but as the other posts in this thread show some people can. Not sure about the reliability of this information as its off a blog but

"Clinical trials seem to indicate that a lot of people can't "get off" on tramadol. However, there is a small percentage of people that can get something out of tramadol. Off the top of my head, it's about 7% of the subjects in the clinical trial."

So if you're one of the lucky ones enjoy it.

[cj1223]

I love treadol I used to like vicodon but it takes four vicoden but only 2 tremadol.

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[Bajeda]

Swim's little monkey has quite a sore back from hardcore windsurfing the other day. The monkey was just given 100mg of Tramadol to try and ease the pain with more in reserve if necessary. The monkey will provide a trip report later today.

(Report will be added later)

[fizzle]

SWIM Used it a few times. first 2 times were fine, any pain he hade was diminished. he took 1 50mg tablet each time. he read that it is not good to take with paxil (im on 26mg a day) but didnt notice any bad interactions, that is until friday night. His neck was hurting so i popped a 50mg and headed out to blaze up. Smoked a halfth 8th blunt and a few bong rips. Thank god he wasnt drivin home thanks to his gf. As soon as they left about at about 11 he started feeling really drunk even though no alcohol was consumed. When he finally got back home he stumbled inside to get some water but before he could he passed the fuck out while reaching for the glass. Busted the hell out of his head on the hardwood floor and banged up his knee somehow. Nothing really hurt though but it was scary as hell. He will never take tramadol again as he knows that it was the tramadol that caused this. for the rest of the night his heart beat was very irregular, either very slow or every fast. Weird stuff. Live and learn. Dont combine ssri with ANY amount of tramadol.

[Bajeda]

Ok, trip report is in.

Swim had an interesting time with Tramadol today, and he would like to share his observations.

Swim has a container of Ultram 50mg Tramadol pills. These were the substance of ingestion. They are only a few weeks away from expiry though, so swim thought he might as well use them.

T + 00:00 - It is 11:00AM. Swim ingests two 50mg Ultram pills. Feels slight buzz very shorty after ingestion. Swim isn't sure if it is the placebo effect or if the opiod receptors are already acting up.

T + 00:30 - Swim is feeling some effects. He is a bit anxious and jittery. It seems as though the Ultram is calming his mind, and he becomes more contemplative. Bit of euphria setting in, but barely noticeable.

T + 01:00 - Swim is getting a distinctive "stoned" feeling. He is listening to music and it seems to be sounding better. Velvet Underground - Heroin is very cool, as well as some Marusha (rave) songs. He also contemplates upping the dose as he is feeling rather euphoric now but wants more of an intense feeling.


T + 01:10 - Used bathroom, swim found it a little hard to urinate at first but once it started to flow it was ok. Swim feels quite light and bouncy, similar to how your limbs feel on MDMA but not as pronounced. Swim could imagine dancing at a rave on this drug. Swim takes another 50mg of Ultram. Total amount ingested is 150mg now.

T + 02:00 - Swim is feeling the third Ultram kick in now. This one is more pronounced and not as gradual as the setting in of the first ones seemed. Swim notices that his shoulder and back are a bit sore, but this can be explained by the intense windsurfing the day before. In any case his joints feel rather good, so he isn't too worried.

T + 02:40 - Another level of high now. Slight nausea and craving for cigarettes accompanies. Swim feels more out of it now, less connected to the world and reality. Euphoric effects intensified. Swim feels great now, he decides to call up some old friends to chat. Conversations go well. Swim is quite social and talkative and is very amiable even to friends he had fights with in the recent past. Swim is quite mobile and doesn't stop walking while on the phone.

T + 03:30 - After talking with friends on the phone swim feels excellent. The high was at its peak when he started the phone conversations it seems. Swim is only feeling an intensified buzz now so he decides to take another 50mg Ultram. Total amount ingested is 200mg now.

T + 04:30 - Swim is very energetic! Though he is also quite calm and happy at the same time. Swim also doesn't seem to be impaired, his body is functioning as normal and his mind is very clear. In other words, swim just feels great! He wants to go and DO something! Not like other opiates swim has tried, the Ultram is making swim quite active indeed.

T + 05:15 - Swim starts to stretch out his legs and back so he can use the elliptical training. Swim hasn't been running or working out enough lately so he wants to be sure to be fully stretched out before he begins. Swim notices that while he is quite flexible in general, the stretching seems to be easier while on Tramadol. His legs don't burn as much and in general the stretching seems to go easily and without pain. Swim hops on the elliptical trainer, puts on some Banco De Gaia on the ipod, and starts moving.

T + 06:30 - Swim is drenched in sweat. He has just finished an hour on the elliptical trainer. He covered 8 and a half miles, burnt 1300 calories, and is quite exhausted. He is happy though as the "runner's high" has a synergistic effect with the ultram, so he is feeling very very stoned coming off the trainer. Swim said that the ultram didn't help him go any faster than he usually would on the trainer, but he could increase the intensity much more than usual. Usually when swim turns up the intensity of the resistance on the trainer his legs get tired and as a result his speed drops. With the ultram, however, when he increases resistance his legs don't slow down much, and he can't feel the added strain necessary to maintain the high speeds.

T + 06:45 - Swim has been laying in front of the fan with his back propped against the door for about 15 minutes now. He wants to collapse from exhaustion but feels that he will just pass out if he does that. He is feeling a bit cooler now thanks to the fan and bottle of water he drank but his stomach is aching a bit as he hasn't had anything to eat since an hour and a half before ingesting the ultram. Swim decides to take a nice shower. It feels quite refreshing when he gets in but swim gets anxious when he feels the "crash" coming on. Swim is about to go to sleep in the shower when gradually the feeling starts going away and swim is doing better.

T + 07:40 - Swim eats dinner. His appetite isn't fully there but he eats enough to quell the aching in his stomach. He is a bit more detached now and some euphoric effects are still there. The effects of the drug seem to be very gradually going away.

T + 08:00 - Swim calls up his friend Bajeda to write and post a trip report of his experience on drugs-forum. Swim is feeling a bit stoned like but not much more. He has been happy with his experience overall with Tramadol and would like to do it again sometime. He particularly wants to try smoking cannabis while under the influence of Ultram as judging from his first experience it seems like the two would produce enjoyable synergistic effects.


Swim feels that his first experience with Tramadol was enjoyable on the whole. He doesn't think it approaches the almost magical level that some people seem to experience with comparable amounts of Tramadol, but he thinks that if he had ingested the full amount at once instead of spacing it out the intensity of effects may have been different. Still, tramadol is an interesting opiate as it makes you feel sociable and active so you can find ways to have fun on it.

Swim still is coming down off of it and doesn't feel too bad. He may post a follow up on the "day after" effects tomorrow. He recommends Tramadol to people who like euphoric type drugs and are creative in finding ways to make trips fun. He thinks that people who enjoy smoking small quantities of opium and who find adderall fun would enjoy this substance.

Swim feels that 150mg would have been a good starting dose, rather than 100mg. Swim has experience with opiates but has never had an addiction and hasn't experimented with any for at least 6 months. Swim weights about 170 pounds.

Swim hopes that someone will find this report helpful.

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	Nice Report: Thanks for sharing!
	Very nice trip reports, it makes SWIM want to try it even more
	Great report, no wonder swiy a MoD

[Stavrogin]

Swim just got Tramadol drops for a back pain and he was thinking about using the Tramadol to get a high, but after reading all these reports swim is confused. Looks like not everyone had a nice high similar to opiates from this substance.

Maybe he should start with 100mg and see what happens?

[x2thez53913]

Originally Posted by fizzle

SWIM Used it a few times. first 2 times were fine, any pain he hade was diminished. he took 1 50mg tablet each time. he read that it is not good to take with paxil (im on 26mg a day) but didnt notice any bad interactions, that is until friday night. His neck was hurting so i popped a 50mg and headed out to blaze up. Smoked a halfth 8th blunt and a few bong rips. Thank god he wasnt drivin home thanks to his gf. As soon as they left about at about 11 he started feeling really drunk even though no alcohol was consumed. When he finally got back home he stumbled inside to get some water but before he could he passed the fuck out while reaching for the glass. Busted the hell out of his head on the hardwood floor and banged up his knee somehow. Nothing really hurt though but it was scary as hell. He will never take tramadol again as he knows that it was the tramadol that caused this. for the rest of the night his heart beat was very irregular, either very slow or every fast. Weird stuff. Live and learn. Dont combine ssri with ANY amount of tramadol.

SWIX believes the when SWIY says "it was the tramadol that caused this" was an absolute ignorant statement. SWIY mixed drugs so there SWIY cannot say one way or another what caused anything.

[themidnite1]

it WILL keep a body out of withdrawal a body takes enough. SWIM who was badly addicted to Lortab used to take about 8 of the 50's maybe? SWIM took 8 and no w/d. not sure what strength. minor bee buzz, but no fun. some docs consider this a "powerful" narcotic lol. SWIM has heard that the w/d from tramadol is pure hell on earth, but what w/d isn't? hope this helps. it IS a great med to have around if SWIY occasionally DOES go thru w/d as it will take away all symptoms as far as SWIM knows.

[Stavrogin]

Swim decided to try this substance so he took 100 mg ( 40 drops ). No effects at all in the first 30 minutes so he decided to take 50 mg more. After one hour: a bit of stimulation and daze, but not really intense, swim smokes a lot of cigarettes, difficult to concentrate on something.

But the real effects has come after about (dont remember exactly ) 3 hours or more! weird!

Stimulation is gone and Swim now is feeling soooo relaxed and good, sweet and mellow, every single member of his body is feeling good. The heart is beating at 60 per minute (when it normally beats at 80/90 ) and breathe is slower than normal. He went to bed, stay awake lying for about one hour feeling good and relaxed, then he fall asleep.

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nice to have another confirmation that tramadol does something!

[whorse]

when mixed with a conservative amount of oxycodone and alprazolam, SWIM finds tramadol to provide INTENSE euphoria. He has since run out of tramadol and finds that without it, even with and increased dosage of oxy and alprazolam he does not feel nearly as euphoric. By itself, tramadol only made SWIM dizzy and disoriented, no euphoria. Its just the mixture of the oxy and the xanax that did it for him. Now he craves tramadol simply to conserve his reserves of oxycodone and xanax, since tramadol is so much cheaper and potentiates them both so well

It is now SWIM's ultimate pill combo

[whorse]

oh yes and before a mod says it: dont mix downers with downers. Tramadol + opiates + benzos can be a potentially lethal combination, you're skirting death. When I said conservative, I meant conservative. 100mg Tramadol, 1mg xanax and 5mg oxy is all SWIM would do to get him feeling good for like 10 hours.

[Spare Chaynge]

swim has used many opiates hydrocodone, morphine, hydromorphone, fentanyl, heroin. in swims prime of usage he would not of thought tramadol worthy... but in times of withdrawl it would be god sent. and even if swim found some today he would be filled with joy because swim has not used in a year swim misses it.

[Jeer]

Swim has quite a bit to say about tramadol. Swims mother has always been an opiate freak, he is always finding pills around the house. Swim had a lot of opiate experience before tramadol. Tramadol is not an opiate but it does have very similar effects. Ok, one day swim got home early from school and realized he was out of ganja. Looking where his mother hides her pills he was greatly surprised at what he found, a full bottle of a drug he had never heard of. He checked online and decided to take 150mg (three pills, generic tarmadol is almost always 50mg a piece).

Now you have to realize that this was a very difficult time in swim's life. It was his junior year in high school and had his first real heart break. Swim had lost a very close friend at the time shortly after, finding out that his girl friend at the time hooked up with him that same day. well anyways enough emo chat, lol.

Swim noticed that is was actually quite strong. Swim has tried many opiates and found this to be not to bad. It is euphoric and relaxing. After the effects of the first dose wore off, Swim made a poor decision, he took about 12-15 more pills from his mother's dresser.

The next few days swim was doing a lot of tramadol. Before school and before bed. Swim was stealing them from his mother's dresser more and more frequently and increasing in the amount taken each time. Swim developed a tolerance quite soon. about a month and a half after the first time swim had popped 3 trammies and felt great it took about 6-8 to reach the level he disired.

needless to say swim's mother finally noticed and confronted me about it. Swim was really high when his mother went into his room. swim tried to deny it but she knew that swim was guilty and high on her pain killers (the fact that swim had 'Strawberry Fields Forever' playing probably didn't help swim's defense)

Although swim was addicted, he experienced little withdrawals form the tramadol. Swim regrets letting it get so out of hand but would never let that experience go to waste. Swim has much better control over all of his drug habits.

thank you for hearing me out
peace and love

[Benzonater]

SWIM was prescribed Tramadol after major neck surgery. It did nothing for his pain and gave him a headache all day. They took him off of Vicodin because they claim he was taking too much. I felt bad for him because he just had major surgery and they gave him 5/500 Vics one or two every six hours. He said that wasn't enough and his doctor was not sympathetic and changed his script to Tramadol. Now SWIM has heard people actually get good feelings from Tram but many people SWIM knows agree with SWIM, Tramadol is bogus.

[Ganja Joe]

What's all the hub-bub about Tramadol?

When SWIM was in the military as a dentist, you got the 3 M's for your wisdom teeth removal... Motrin, Marcaine (long acting anesthetic like 6-8 hours) and MANANA!

Also gave tons of Ultram as it was considered a non-narcotic... sure it has opiate roots with a morphine base chemical structure, but it doesnt get you high!

With that said, it may alleviate withdrawls from those trying to give up opiates... but in SWIM's NSHO, if you're taking Tramadol/Ultram to get high, save your money.