Some philosophical thoughts you have had while high?

[msumegi]

Just incase you are wondering who acctually did write that document I sited...they go by many names, hidden hand, international bankers, but the one I use is....


Illuminati

[The_Great_Sage]

i am god and i know all the secerets to life but i can not awaken them untill.........well thats the problem i know the answers to everything but i dont know how to get them out of my head

[Stingray_313]

I have thought of 2 crazy things when i was high... ill go into detail for each.



1) We are all involved in a web of existence. Think about it, lets say
you never existed, lets say that your dad's sperm died short of your
mother's egg and you dont exist. Now think of all the things that would
be different. If you have a girlfriend, then she would never have gone
out with you, and may have gone out with someone else. Then the person
that she would be going out with's current girlfriend would have gone
with someone else, or might be so lonely that they kill themselves,
thus never having children and wiping out an entire possibility of a
family. All because 1 tiny sperm didnt make it. And thats just one side
of the figure, imagine all the other things that are different. Like if
you have a job, then someone else would have it if you never existed,
then they might have gotten a high position in the company and the
buisness would expand. Then the new buisness would create a product
that is very popular among the entire world. After that, the buisness
would become corrupt, and eventually have to shut the entire thing
down, causing a lack of jobs and a reign of poverty. Another great
depression if you will. And because of this depression, the world
enters a crisis of money and power, and the world seeps lower until
finally coming to a nuclear war, that destroys the entire world.......
this crazy web goes on forever, but the thought of it is really trippy.
Definately something to ponder when high.



2) This one is based upon the Big Bang Theroy of the universe's
creation. I thought of this one night while listening to "Echoes" by
Pink Floyd. Basically, i think that instead of a BIG bang, there was a
Small bang. In the beginning, there was NOTHING in the universe. It was
just a blank, endless series of nothingness. Then, a TINY sound
of some sort happened right in the middle of it. Now, it being only a
tiny sound made it almost impossible to have any large effects then...
but as those sound waves reverberated throughout the nothingness, they
intertwined and created thicker matter. And throughout trillions and
trillions of years, that thicker matter has come to be the universe
as we know it. The planets, the sun, the trees, the atmosphere,
the force of gravity, EVERYTHING. And eventually, the vibrations came
to create humans. Thus, if that vibration was just .00000000000001
millameter in another direction, mankind might never have
existed............. . . . . Wooooooahhh.



When im high, i really like to think of things on a large scale, and
these were just 2 particularly interesting things i thought of.



By the way, i always carry a notebook with me whenever i get high so i
can write all these interesting things down... you should too! Its
great to look back at some of the amazing thoughts you have had.


Edited by: Stingray_313

[The_Great_Sage]

None of us exsist. I'm sure almost all of us have thought something along the lines of this but i have figured it out i think .........


we are all figments of each others imaginations. in the way that none of you exsist really only in my mind and i dont exsist at all only in some ones (or many) imaginations and when we meet someone we take something as simple as a name or a thought and create them in our minds and no this theory is not selfish in the way that im the one that creates people..... there was one person in the begining of the cycle that started imagining one person then that person imagined another and so on then somewhere along the line that first person got lost in his own mind and so now he/she is walking around in a non exsistent world. so that means that one of us could be like god man and no one will ever know. oh yea and when people die its because the first person imagined that it would be weird to see people stop exsisting (unlike or like his/her world) and then that person that died is missed so much and thought about so much that they come back as another imagined person but has the same "soul" like thing in them. this mnay sound a little bit like the modern day religions but itdiffers in the way that the "creator" was and is nothing special we just live in his head





Sometimes i think of things that sound so logical but come out just as stoner babble...... i wish that i at least got close to figuring it out but i have false hope for there is no way of telling.





the above statements probably made no sense to anyone so sorry for writing so much

[billyloner]

i was on a train one time, and listened to this old atheist and a young christian having a discussion about the universe. the old man put forward the idea that the universe is a sentient creature. i thought about this, but it wouldnt really work unlesswe are a part of it. and everything is. sort of like the idea of the universe being a dream. except everything is a part of the universe. similar to how we have tiny blood cells floating through our bodies doing things, the universe has lots of things inside it doing various tasks. mostly these are just instinct, like a predator hunting its prey. but then there is the little thing called consciousness. if the universe is sentient in some way, then our individual minds could simply be facets of one giant consciousness, so huge it is unable to express itself in what we would consider a normal way, and has to break itself down into fragments. im dont really think i believe this though.

[hippie_lain]

Just something i came up with on a 8th and 1/2 of almost all caps shroom trip. I was insane at the timefrom what i remember but this made alot of sense and still does to me.


There are two of each person out there. The person you see yourself asand the you that exists in others minds. So the"you"you see asyourself can fade from reality in your own mind and thus life is not real for you cause you make it so. But you always exist in others minds so life is real for everyone maby just not for yourself personally. Also life can not be real because the you in everyoneelses minds isnt you and is a lie(wether its your fault or not) and so life is not real because your not real and dont really exist. If everyone i know sees me as someone Im not and i cant change their minds do "I" belong to reallity, do "I" still exist even though i dont in the minds of EVERYONE out there. So basically it it possible for life to be real for some and not real for others.


Wow Ive posted this like three times nowEdited by: hippie_lain

[glomp]

Originally Posted by The_Great_Sage

None of us exsist. I'm sure almost all of us have thought something along the lines of this but i have figured it out i think .........


we are all figments of each others imaginations. in the way that none of you exsist really only in my mind and i dont exsist at all only in some ones (or many) imaginations and when we meet someone we take something as simple as a name or a thought and create them in our minds and no this theory is not selfish in the way that im the one that creates people..... there was one person in the begining of the cycle that started imagining one person then that person imagined another and so on then somewhere along the line that first person got lost in his own mind and so now he/she is walking around in a non exsistent world. so that means that one of us could be like god man and no one will ever know. oh yea and when people die its because the first person imagined that it would be weird to see people stop exsisting (unlike or like his/her world) and then that person that died is missed so much and thought about so much that they come back as another imagined person but has the same "soul" like thing in them. this mnay sound a little bit like the modern day religions but itdiffers in the way that the "creator" was and is nothing special we just live in his head





Sometimes i think of things that sound so logical but come out just as stoner babble...... i wish that i at least got close to figuring it out but i have false hope for there is no way of telling.





the above statements probably made no sense to anyone so sorry for writing so much

that's an interesting concept... it's kinda like that jap cartoon "evangelion"... but let's say everyone except for you suddenly died (or disappeared), would you cease to exist?


i've also gone down a common path of thought... that we're all living in a virtual reality... i was watching a documentary on egypt and saw a recreation of a busy marketplace with people interacting with each other... so i thought, what if we were all components in a historical simulation/reconstruction taking place inside an advanced computer in the future... obviously with an exponential growth in processing power, the people of the future would want to use such technology to better undertand their origins and create controlled simulations much like we do today but at a much more detailed level... it could explain why the human brain, though quite capable in it's own right, is at the same time so limited... and also whyso many thingstaste like chicken (from the matrix)

[The_Great_Sage]

ok i dont believe this but check it out



" Look, you cant keep living from one theory to another and think that
your actually coming up with somehting. Your gonna keep blaming things
on theories that someone has come up with and you wont relize its
nothing complicated. We as humans are organism on earth just like any
other plant or animal or bacteria. We think so we come up with more
complex meanings for "life" and we dont see that we are nothing special
and there is no "point" to life and that we cant ever be sure of a
justification for life. Here is a relality check you sit around smoke
and do drugs and have a so called girlfriend but she would hate you if
she knew how you lived and your gonna flunk out of school if you dont
straighten up....(more pointing out what i do in life)......So think
about it man just live and think about it there is no point to life and
we arent "special" because we think or love or have society......"



The point they were trying to get across is that there really is
nothing to explain life because there is no "seceret" or "mystery" and
that its so simple no one excepts it



any way that speach was given to me to give me a reality check and did
so cuz i was high but when i got straight then high again it didnt seem
to be as impacting so i wanted some opinions on it


Edited by: The_Great_Sage

[Stingray_313]

After THE_GREAT_SAGE posted that, i IMed him and had a long
conversation about the subject. I decided to post it, rather then
combining all the ideas. I am Fleawannabe313, the_great_sage is DEAD
HEAD samson. Sorry about the layout.



FleaWannabe313: your theroy

FleaWannabe313: that is sort of mine as well....

FleaWannabe313: being as i am aethiest.

FleaWannabe313: Thats why i think all those god damn religions are fucking retarted.

FleaWannabe313: They try to make so much out of just a simple organism

FleaWannabe313: the organism being humans

DEAD HEAD Samson: yea but that would make us equally wrong man

FleaWannabe313: what do you mean?

DEAD HEAD Samson: we try to state theories about life or the psycology of the human mind

FleaWannabe313: Well, i think we do have a psycology

FleaWannabe313: *the psycology

DEAD HEAD Samson: we do but that doesnt mean that there is any thing
special about humans we just coincedencily are the top of the
food chain and out number everything

FleaWannabe313: Yeah, exactly.

FleaWannabe313: And all our "emotions" are just the impulses that our brain sends us to make us react to the situation.

FleaWannabe313: Like when someone throws a rock at us, our mind makes us scared and we move.

FleaWannabe313: If we werent scared, we would get hit in the face.

DEAD HEAD Samson: yea like anger was origanally anger and excitment was
for survival like we get scared when the dinosaurs chased us so our
adrelinaline pumped so we can run and we would get mad so we get
stronger to kill the things that attack us

DEAD HEAD Samson: so things like "love" dont exsist

DEAD HEAD Samson: they are a figment of a collective ego

FleaWannabe313: Yeah

FleaWannabe313: Just something we say to be nice and make other people feel like they have a place.

FleaWannabe313: Like if you tell your girlfriend you love her, then
your just trying to make her seem like something in this world is
HELPING her and is WITH her.

FleaWannabe313: There is no "love" parsay, just a combination of emotions we connect to that word.

DEAD HEAD Samson: and we "love" to disguise our raw instint to
reproduce and so our society and so called "civilization" is just
denying human nature and has no reason

DEAD HEAD Samson: and now has made us forget why we exsist

DEAD HEAD Samson: so we created "religion"

DEAD HEAD Samson: it was a bad idea taken too far

FleaWannabe313: religion was origionally created to explain the unexplainable.

FleaWannabe313: Like wind

FleaWannabe313: they didnt know what the fuck it was

FleaWannabe313: so they said a god did it

FleaWannabe313: and rain

FleaWannabe313: they didnt know what the fuck it was

FleaWannabe313: so they made a god

FleaWannabe313: we discovered the REAL cause of these things

FleaWannabe313: and got rid of the need for those gods

FleaWannabe313: we used GOD and JESUS to explain the creation of humans

FleaWannabe313: we have evolution

FleaWannabe313: we know the real way

FleaWannabe313: people are just too fucking ignorant to realise this change.

DEAD HEAD Samson: yea man and now if you doubt the word of "god" you
are said to go to a "hell" which represents all bullshit and the people
who shut up and givein get to go to a "heavon" that is just said to be
"perfect" which is just as empty as love and society

DEAD HEAD Samson: (ithought of doing it lol)

DEAD HEAD Samson: its like saying "you give in you get what ever you
want" so what about the people that want to kill everyone ? religion
creates more questions then it answers

FleaWannabe313: Yeah

FleaWannabe313: i fucking hate it.



Those are just our thoughts, feel free to argue or add to them... i
personally think its a VERY fascinating topic, considering it combines
all the aspects of humanity and their views on life.



Peace.


Edited by: Stingray_313

[robbie_p99]

do square sandwiches taste different than triangular ones? bearing in mind the fillings are identical..

[Stingray_313]

Its a matter of texture with sandwiches. The shape might make it more
convient to eat, and therefor let you focus more on the taste rather
then the chewing/fitting in mouth.



IMO, triangular ones taste better. Plus, when you finish one half of
the triangular sandwich, theres another half waiting for ya

[Bodhisattva500]

I agree I like isocsoles BLT's

[sauvage]

With regard to the original post:
1) Depends on how rich your parents are and what they write into their will.
2)I think we should be here for higher things even though sometimes the pain gets so much we must take drugs.

[The_Great_Sage]

Originally Posted by sauvage

With regard to the original post:

2)I think we should be here for higher things even though sometimes the pain gets so much we must take drugs.

well i made a thread in "Marijuana Using" about different reasons
people do drugs and sometimes it isnt pain that is the reason but i do
agree that pain in most of our lives does become an overwhelming
factor so alternative means are used to express our selves

[jrock0069]

I formulated a theory while on acid about why some people become homosexuals. You see, Iwas a homophobe for a long time cuz I didn't understand how a personof one sex could feel passionatetowards another of the same sex. I was thinking about how were at the top of the food chain. As humans, we have no natural predators and we find ways of curing all the plagues mother nature throws at us. Nothing controls our numbers, were like a plague ourselves. Everywhere we go we destroy our everything in our path.


Some creatures in nature (i.e.frogs) have the ability to change their sex. When there is all one sex, a few of them will actually produce the hormones to make them the opposite sex for the sake of procreation. Now, I belive that theopposite can happen with humans. We produce the hormones that makes some attracted to the opposite sex. This in turn, prevents some of our species from procreating and I think this is mother natures way of controlling population.


For a while, I thought the same about AIDS but, now I think that the government with-holds the vaccine for the same reason. How often do you hear about the really rich dying from it? Anybody remember when Magic Johnson was infected and then got cured? Anyway, these are a few of my theories.