Concerta & Ritalin experiences

[Sitbcknchill]

Please post your Concerta and Ritalin experiences here.

[Lehendakari]

As no one has ever posted an experience here before (wierd as I know many swims have some) I'll start by posting a totally made up story which I imagined this past saturday:

Note that the subject to which I refer as "I" doesn't exist.

" I finally got some ritalin pills, 10 mg, brand novartis. I've done a lot of research about stimulants and I finally decided to choose methylphenidate over speed, coke or meth for a number of reasons:

1. It's cheaper and easier to find
2. It doesn't come from some bastard's kitchen, garaje or bathroom.
3. It isn't a street drug, it comes in blisters and it looks like medicine you take for allergy, besides it is not known in my country so there is little chance to get busted.
4. It is softer than speed and meth and has easier comedown
5. I tried coke in the past and didn't like and it's fucking expensive

Anyway, I read a lot of confusing reports about it being recreational or not, being good for insufflation, being similar to coke.... So I didn't know what to expect.

Note that I'm/was ADHD and never took any drugs for it, just useless therapy.

I took 2 pills (20 mg) and crushed into fine powder, not as fine as I wished cause I did it quick and with no good tools. It is amazing though how much powder you get from 2 pills.

00:30 I start blowing the stuff, 4 lines with breaks between them (a couple of minutes) I'm regular mj smoker and I'd smoked 4 hours before. Haven't done any other drug for at least 3 years except for ocassional alcohol and a couple of trials with GHB (not that day). Snorting them reminded me a lot of cocaine, acid smell, bitter taste, and not at all hard on the nose. My teeth didn't come numb though.

T+10m: Not feeling much, got dressed and went out to meet some friends that were drinking at someone's house.

T+20m: I meet my friends now, I feel ok, I bit speedy and happy but not sure it's me or the drug.

T+30m: I definitely feel it right now, I finished my first drink (ron with cola) and feel my heart pounding and I need to move and talk, I'm happy and crear headed but not wired. My friends don't notice anything wierd in my behaviour. I keep drinking.

T+1h: I decide not to take the other pill I planned to take cause I was speedy enough, and i didn't want to ruin a perfect night by OD'ing. I'm feeling very well right now a lot of tingling in my chest which scared me at first but then I realized how plesurable it was and let go. I'm talkative, happy and energetic. I feel a lot of pressure in my jaw and I need to be pressing my teeth all the time. I try to stop that but it is hard.

T+2: I still feel as above although more drunk. It is amazing how easily you can drink while on ritalin, and the little effect it has in you.

T+3: I stopped drinking but not because I feel drunk, it's just that the number of drinks scares me. We go to the pub. No effects diminished at all, still the same, although mouth is getting worse. I drink water

T+3.5: We go to the disco and I still feel very sociable and warm but energy is decreasing, I'm very thirsty. No other bad feelings.

T+4.5: I'm ok now, delighted for the good experience but effects are all gone and I'm feeling drunk. Met my girlfriend and went home.

T+5: I smoke some weed and went to bed. Sleep was easy but not good. I fell asleep in 10 min but I woke up several times. Dreams were rare. I don't get good sleep when I drink only anyway so it might not have been the rits.

Next day I felt a bit of hangover.

Overall it was a great night. I think methylphenidate is much better than coke. I know many of you will say I'm out of my mind for saying this. It is cheaper, longer lasting and better in effects. Good drug I found. I can't wait to try it as study aid and to help concentrate.

In retrospect I would like to say that I was maybe TOO talkative, and now I know I should've watched this better as I said things I shoudn't have said and made me look stupid sometimes.... "

I hope you all have enjoyed this trip I made up and encourage you to post ritalin experiences that you imagine or SWIM or your rat lab lived.

[AsIaN_ChIcK]

SWIM snorted her Ritalin for the first time today. Crushed power of 5mg at first and SWIM felt NOTHING!

SWIM checked out the fine ass drugs-forum and decided to snort another 10mg. And that's just what she did. Still nothing at first.

20 minutes or so later, SWIM felt a mellow high. To SWIM, it was no better or worse than having 5 shots down the system.

Um...3 hours later SWIM is wondering if she should get another round of shots...

DAMN! Snort is thirsty.

[AsIaN_ChIcK]

SWIM is seriously numb right now. Drinking water like a fish and her brain is slow like a turtle. Heart's beating at 87/min, 20 beats above her normal range.

Totally can't study anymore. Presentation on Monday?? Fuuugedaboutit!

[AsIaN_ChIcK]

SWIM just snorted another 10mg of Ritalin and took a 5mg pill orally. She does not feel any high, but defintely is more awake and alert now comparing to 5 minutes ago. She no longer feels slow. SWIM thinks the numbness might be part of the aftereffect of ritalin wearing off.

WTH, SWIM doesn't feel high still. SWIM think she's going to start working now since she probably has a good 2 hour window before becoming numb again.

BTW, I just want to document my first time ritalin experimence and share it with everybody here. Feel free to ask me to shut up if this annoys you or if anybody thinks this is a waste of forum space since, apprantly, I am the only one posting on this thread.

[Alicia]

Originally Posted by AsIaN_ChIcK

SWIM just snorted another 10mg of Ritalin and took a 5mg pill orally. She does not feel any high, but defintely is more awake and alert now comparing to 5 minutes ago. She no longer feels slow. SWIM thinks the numbness might be part of the aftereffect of ritalin wearing off.

WTH, SWIM doesn't feel high still. SWIM think she's going to start working now since she probably has a good 2 hour window before becoming numb again.

BTW, I just want to document my first time ritalin experimence and share it with everybody here. Feel free to ask me to shut up if this annoys you or if anybody thinks this is a waste of forum space since, apprantly, I am the only one posting on this thread.

Always fun to report your experiences. swia has been curious about Ritalin pills so its useful for her to read.She not sure if this has been covered before but she'll still read. Have fun with your presentation

[Nagognog2]

In the future do you suppose SWIM could wait until all is said and done before posting? Combine the report into one post as is usually done? Otherwise, as happens, we end up with a disjointed record that is more difficult to read and/or place in archives.

Thread merged.

[x cynic x]

For his first time swim recently insufflated 2 5mg pills containing Ritalin and felt a strong wariness of his surroundings for about a half hour. Halfway through, swim decided to sit down and discovered that he had lost all interest in mobility. Rather than moving around, he found it more pleasant to simply chat amongst his associates and observe the scenery. Can anyone relate to this type of reaction?

[x cynic x]

Oh and also swim neglected to mention how he took a couple of pills orally but did not notice much of an effect until now. He is now being kept wide awake all night without a single sedative available. The only thing better than being kept up all night is having work in the morning.

[rising1]

Ritalin Experience :

First a little background on prior drug usage. SWIM (whom I knew pretty well) uses low dosage adderall via insuffication (30 mg) 3 to 4 times a week. SWIM used to use cocaine and methamphetamine recreationally for quite some time (3 to 4 years) but has gotten out of the lifestyle in the last year or so.SWIM used ~1.75 to 2.5 gr of cain over the course of a usual night and approx .5 to .75 gr per day when using methamphetamine (snorted usually, smoking didnt seem to last long enough and made the drug seem more like a "fien" drug to SWIM). In SWIMs opinion (everyone has one mixed amphetamine salts (adderall) , especially upon beginning to use them, felt more akin to MDMA than methamphetamine. More euphoria than rush. SWIM has access to ritalin on an occasional basis but does not usually indulge. I present the following experience report for informational purposes only and this never really happened SWIM just made it all up.
RITALIN (20 mg, insufficated)
+5 min began to feel the kick , and suprisingly a little numbness which was definitely not expected
+15 nice euphoria, more of a relaxed euphoria than meth or adderall, pleasant thoughts and bodily sensations
+45 still feeling good but feeling the beginning of a comedown.
+ ~1:15 Pretty much down
Now if that was the end of it then SWIM might indulge in the drug more often. However, and this may just be SWIM, but after the roughly hour and a half high, a deep depression sets in that runs at least the course of the next 3 to 4 hours if not until SWIM goes to sleep. The meaning of the word dopamine depletion becomes very clear to swim during this period. SWIM feels it is similiar to caocaine in this respect however unlike cocaine, SWIM does not feel a extreme need to do more of the drug, just a deep depression.Does anyone run in to this as well?

[4chanspy]

swim would take like 10 - 20mg oral

then through out the night swim would keep taking little bumps.

wile im stimulated i like to make stuff, i.e 3d modeling, writing, games, reading

swim thinks its one of the best drugs out there, swim canceled his adderall xr perscription becuase adderall sucks balls, swim thinks he has an anphetimine resistance or something becusae he didnt get anything out of it even at really high doses. but ritalin reminds swim of that time he had coke, amazingly smart and creative.

[Chrispy]

Originally Posted by 4chanspy

swim canceled his adderall xr perscription becuase adderall sucks balls, swim thinks he has an anphetimine resistance or something becusae he didnt get anything out of it even at really high doses. but ritalin reminds swim of that time he had coke, amazingly smart and creative.

SWIM feels your pain there. SWIM's having trouble right now cause all she's got is Adderall XR and it does NOTHING no matter how much SWIM crushes it, how she takes it, what she does to it, or how much she takes of it. When she had some Concerta she was flying high all the time. For some reason Adderall just doesn't do a damn thing for SWIM either. And SWIM thought she was the only one!

Chrispy added 4 Minutes and 35 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by Stuck

SWIMOverall, pretty good. He likes it more than adderall.

SWIM too.

[herostyle]

Originally Posted by Chrispy

SWIM feels your pain there. SWIM's having trouble right now cause all she's got is Adderall XR and it does NOTHING no matter how much SWIM crushes it, how she takes it, what she does to it, or how much she takes of it. When she had some Concerta she was flying high all the time. For some reason Adderall just doesn't do a damn thing for SWIM either. And SWIM thought she was the only one!

Yeah, SWIM has noticed at times that for him, adderall does not to do the justice other amphetamines/stimulants do.

[Nagognog2]

Before you respond to a post like the two now deleted, please think of how the thread will read with your reply and the idiot's post no longer visible.

Get the picture? Next time, just hit the /!\ button and report the imbecile.

Thanks.

[outofstep]

ok seriously, most f'd up 'side effect' ever, SWIM doesn't know whether to cry because it worsened his depression or what, he's trying to laugh hoping it's temporary....SWIM thinks an ssri is actually working too. gg lexapro. anyways, first of all it is causing an INSANE degree of add, every word SWIM writes he has to think first. SWIM really hopes this isn't the equivalent to actual add, cause he couldn't live like this. But that's not the worse of it, no exaggeration, at all, as soon as the first 20mg ORAL (weak asssss dose) hit, it came with a baseball at full force carrying a massive load of anhedonia, with a side of stare at your computer bitch and do what i say. which involves nothing but message boards, this is seriously a weird ass feeling, even on klonopin. NOTHING IS PLEASUREABLE :[. SWIM will try Welbutrin. Also, non existent comedown which doesn't really matter if there was no pleasure. Is this the zombie reaction kids have to Ritalin? this is unethical, immoral, and lacking SWIM of his weak but noticable pleasure.
Oh not to mix up, that was SWIMS FIRST dose of the TODAY. Yesterday all swim got was uncontrollable hyperfocus, extremely counterproductive. Lost track of about 9 hours.


SWIM assumes it's on to Focalin IR. from here.

[seeingred]

Originally Posted by outofstep

ok seriously, most f'd up 'side effect' ever, SWIM doesn't know whether to cry because it worsened his depression or what, he's trying to laugh hoping it's temporary....SWIM thinks an ssri is actually working too. gg lexapro. anyways, first of all it is causing an INSANE degree of add, every word SWIM writes he has to think first. SWIM really hopes this isn't the equivalent to actual add, cause he couldn't live like this. But that's not the worse of it, no exaggeration, at all, as soon as the first 20mg ORAL (weak asssss dose) hit, it came with a baseball at full force carrying a massive load of anhedonia, with a side of stare at your computer bitch and do what i say. which involves nothing but message boards, this is seriously a weird ass feeling, even on klonopin. NOTHING IS PLEASUREABLE :[. SWIM will try Welbutrin. Also, non existent comedown which doesn't really matter if there was no pleasure. Is this the zombie reaction kids have to Ritalin? this is unethical, immoral, and lacking SWIM of his weak but noticable pleasure.
Oh not to mix up, that was SWIMS FIRST dose of the TODAY. Yesterday all swim got was uncontrollable hyperfocus, extremely counterproductive. Lost track of about 9 hours.


SWIM assumes it's on to Focalin IR. from here.

Swim is having a similar experience. Hyperalertness but zombified and lack of mood. Kind of like zeroing in and zoning out at the same time. Swim would never put a kid on this if this had the same effect on them. But still using it because there doesn't seem to be an alternative.

[Cob]

Swim Snorted 40 mgs first time, alone at home, feeling interesting.Swim keeps himself busy, cleanin the house, walkin around..... feel like chattin someone up

[stimulerium]

SWIM was prescribed to 36 and 54 mg Concerta for ADD. A few years after SWIM got off his meds, he found the bottles containing the pils. He found 10mg Ritalin along with his Concertas (apparently SWIM also took 10mg Ritalin at 7 pm too).

He first snorted a Ritalin and got a mood lift and euphoria, listening to music was fun too. Moving around or talking was enjoyable. When coming down however, SWIM got very restless and irritable.

Later on, his usual dose was half a 36 mg Concerta and the other half when he peaked. SWIM thinks that with tolerance (I used it almost daily) the mood lift disappears and you feel like you have no emotions through out the whole high, and get the zombie effect mentioned by seeingred and outofstep.

As for addictiveness, SWIM has an addictive personality but he felt Concerta was making him do it every day. When SWIM ran out however, he had no wihdrawal symptoms nor made any effort to get more.

[doolishis]

From my buddy's experience, Dexmethylphenidate>Methylphenidate. Some people say the isolated D-isomer deal is no biggie and gives them the same effect as Methylphenidate, but then there are those like my good buddy. He discovered D-Methyl afterwards and realized a much smoother, cleaner, & less confusing rush.

From his experience: He snorted Ritalin for awhile and liked the high, except at high doses (80+mg). He would stare at a webpage and read paragraphs over and over, or try writing an email and just laugh 'cause he'd keep backspacing and forgetting where he was getting at. He hated the comedown ALOT. Sleeping/Eating 8-10 hours after a 40-60mg dose didn't come easy. The thought of food was too nauseating and even 50mg of diphenhydramine just makes for a night of toss-n-turn/30minsOfSleepHere'n'There.

Then he looked into D-Methyl and found it was supposedly more potent.

It is. It's also a more "focused"-type rush which has same effects as methyl like highly focused concentration BUT my buddy didn't get confused/sluggish/slow/grumpy on the comedown like methyl usually makes him. He just returns to baseline and all is well. If anything, he's in a somewhat better mood than usual.

-He has fun for a good 2-3 hours on a tweeked out high with one 40-60mg dose, walking around the apt doing random tasks.
-The comedown is more gentle.
-It fades away quicker and he is usually able to sleep/eat 6-7 hours after his last rail, albeit with the help of diphenhydramine.

He quite simply likes D-methyl much better. Screw Ritalin.

[seeingred]

At 37mgs Concerta caused a state of total awareness, yet lack of coordination and anxiety. No paranoia. No hallucinations. 27mgs alongside 5 cups of coffee produced a state of strange social phobia alongside of extrasensory perceptions.

[Stuck]

SWIM wrote an art history paper for his friend and got paid in ritalin. He popped open a 20mg capsule and separated the beads into 2 piles. SWIM assumed that it was an extended release ritalin capsule. He crushed up half of the beads into a fine power and orally ingested said powder. It has been an hour and a half and he is feeling good and productive. Slight chest congestion but no jitters. He feels like he is borderline euphoric.

It was approximately 10mg of, now IR, methylphenidate and he is planning to crush up the other beads later maybe to get some work done. Overall, pretty good. He likes it more than adderall.

[Valefar]

My pet gerbil is prescribed Ritalin due to having ADD. My pet gerbil in case you were wondering has the IQ of the average human. Anyway. One night, knowing that Ritalin was just another form of amphetamine, my pet gerbil did some research on the subject. After much research, and in need of a temporary vice, he began.

He took two 20mg capsules. First he separated the plastic tube surrounding the Ritalin. Then he proceeded to carefully place the little balls on the table. He then took a business card and placed it on top of the balls, and slowly crushed them into a fine powder with the aid of a battery. My pet gerbil then made 3 lines for snorting, and 1 pile for use with a cigarette. He snorted the lines. My pet gerbil said that he initially felt a little spaced. Apparently his general awareness had raised rather significantly. He informed me that the come down from this was pleasant. When the effects had worn off, he lit a cigarette. He then dipped the end in the pile he made previously, and took several large drags. He dipped the cigarette in the pile again, and repeated the process till all was gone. My gerbil explained how the effects were vast in their differences to snorting the substance. He said that the "high" was much larger, he felt a little shaky, a little nauseas, and a little disorientated. The effects however lasted for a much shorter time than when he snorted. He also explained that the come down from that was unpleasant.

Timmy the gerbil was intrigued, and explained how he wished to continue his research...

[Agimate`]

Be prepared this is a very long post because SWIM is on concerta while he writes it and am going into detail.

Swim's experiances with Methylphenidate have only been of ritalin and concerta. but before Swim start's he's going to give Swiy a brief history on the drugs he has taken.

In order of first used:
Enhalents, Alchohol, Weed, Nos, Co-codamol (Panadeine Forte), Zolpidem (Stilnox), Ritalin, Nutmeg, Ecstasy, Concerta.

Swim's first experience was about half a year ago when his parents went away and he had some friends over for a weed, alchohol and nos session. A few of the people that were there were keeping him busy and not letting him enjoy his night. However around 12 that night everyone at his house had fallen asleep except for Swim and his friend.

Swim's friend had 40 x 10mg (400mg) of Methylphenidate in ritalin pills in a bag and offered Swim some. Swim and Swim's friend dropped 20mg to start with but after about 30 minutes the effects still hadnt kicked in so they both snorted a further 20mg. Swim can be a very impacient person and he decided to take some nos about 15 minutes after snorting. The nos was extremely intence for him. It was nothing like the weed nos comparison but almost felt as if the room was bouncing in at him.

However after swim finished taking the nos he snorted some more lines with his friend. Swim and his friend ended up talking about some of there very deep and personal secrets in which they never would have told each other if they werent on the drug even thought they are good friends. Alot of the issues discussed were to do with childhood and parenting and how parenting affects children growing up.

Swim and his friend ended up snorting all of the ritalin over the night (200mg) Methylphenidate, didnt get a wink of sleep and talked very deeply. Swim had the jitters very bad all night and couldnt help doing very tedious things such as make lines over and over again out of the same ritalin with a card. Swim also had no gum or any food for the entire night (about 8 hours), because of this swim subconsiously clenched his jaw very hard the entire night.

The next morning Swim's friend left early before the people at the house woke up. Swim talked energetically to the waking stoners for around 30 minutes with them curiously wondering what the hell he was going on about until the comedown began.

Swim suddenly got very depressed and felt as if there was nothing he wanted to do and (by that swim means not sitting on the couch thinking about what you could be doing, but infact coming to a realisation that nothing in the world satisfies you anymore > No point in living > SWIM should probably just kill himself but then what is the point in that, it would hurt people close to him, prove nothing and he cant be bothered anyway)

Swim kept reminding the people in his house to leave because he needed to clean it before his parents got back. Whilst reminding them every few minutes to leave as soon as they could, Swim paced constantly around the house doing tedious things such as: Picking up a beer bottle, walking through several rooms then walking back to the room it was from and placing it down in the same spot. Swim can also remember being an arsehole to his friends that were there by little things such as shaking his head at them as if he was dissapointed in them or returning a point they were making with a detailed rebuttle (e.g. shutting them down). As Swim's friends were leaving they asked swim if he could walk them down to the bus stop around 200m away because they werent sure where it was, but swim practically told them to get out of his house.

After Swim's friends left, Swim could not get the idea out of his head that his life was pointless, to him it seemed like throughout his life he would never enjoy himself and then one day die. As this thought was making the comedown even more depressing for him, he decided to busy himself by cleaning the house.

Swim cleaned the house for a good 3-4 hours whilst pacing, clenching his jaw and thinking deeply in a very emo way. After cleaning Swim tried to eat something ended up throwing it out, then Swim tried to goto sleep in many different places around his house but wasn't sucessful. Swim tried listening to music but the usual metal freaked him out and he ended up listening to the most emo music he had which didn't help his situation.Swim ended up going onto his computereven though there was no point to him. However the thought of staring at nothingness felt better than pacing to him.

However when Swim got onto his computer and logged onto msn, he found the same friend that he had taken the methylphenidate with the night before and he was experiancing a relative comedown. Swim told his friend that he never wanted to take any drugs ever again. The two conversed for a few hours until Swim started to feel normal again.

Sorry about the length of this post but it was a very good/bad memorable experiance for swim.

As mentioned before Swim was clenching his jaw during the stage of the high and the comedown. Although it didnt seem like much at the time becuase he wasnt in a state of mind to pay any attention to it. Swim's jaw became very sore that day worsend by the next. After a few days Swim could not keep a straight face because of the pain in his Jaw and he would lie asleep at night trying to forget about the pain until he would go to sleep soon to awaken because of the stabbing pain in his Jaw.

Swim went to the doctor to get some pain killers. Swim told the doctor he had a saw jaw from grinding his teeth because he was nervous that his parents would come back to the house being messy and Swim would get in trouble (this seemed like a good enough exuse). The doctor told him just to use asprin because it was strained jaw muscles.

Swim spent a few days using asprin to keep the pain at bay, which worked. However as soon as the asprin wore off the pain returned which was quite annoying waking in the middle of the night, taking more and having to wait till they took affect before he could sleep.

Swim would get angry and snappy at family members when not on the asprin. Swims mother doesnt like the idea of drugs and was trying to wein swim off them slowly but it wasnt helping the situation because he would sware at her ultil she gave them to him.

In the end Swim's mother made swim goto physiotherapy a few times until the pain in the jaw was gone. Apparently there is a muscle in the neck connected to the jaw and the physiotherapist gave swim stretches which ended up fixing the pain.

The moral of the story is: have gum if your going to binge this stuff or speed or E or meth or whatever and on your first time Dont take as much as Swim did it is a very bad idea

Thanks

Agimate` added 4 Minutes and 30 Seconds later...

SWIM realises he is not the first person to have a comedown but i just want to make people realise that the comedown from this drug can be very harsh if u take too much of it and your not used to it

[haxxor]

SWIM has had very similiar expierence with that kind of come down with Concerta, be careful. This stuff can be really dangerous.

[weedy123]

quick question... would it be safe for swim to snort abouout 20mg of adderall XR and take 74mg of Concerta at the same time?