SWIM is wondering about the range of duration & intensity of a Peruvian Torch trip in relation to the dose.
If SWIM would take 25 grams of potent Peruvian torch, what would the duration and the intesity of the trip be? And how about with 50 grams, 75 grams or 100 grams?
I would have though 100 grams would be way too much Alfa. Swin has read a few trip reports and anything over 65 grams seems very intesive with people being sick so i cant image 100g being a pleasurable experience (it would also cost a lot too).
Swim had 56g of Peruvianus tissue yesterday (alcohol extract). He nearly had any nausea. It was quite intense but he could have even more. But on the other hand he was glad he did not take more. People say they feel great after the full effect kicks in. Swim never feels really great on cacti. The side effects of the cactus poisoning always prevent that he feels really relaxed. He is more in some kind of delirium where interesting thoughts pop up in his mind. How long is the duration of a 56g trip? It is very hard to say. After nearly 24 hours he is still not entirely sober. But about may be 95% has gone. It is even difficult to judge when one reaches the full effect. Swim usually does not care about things like this any more when on cacti.
hmm, weird. swim and his girlfriend got some cacti from a place with good rep. it was dried and pulverized. swim measured out 30 grams and made 2 skakes. it tasted so damn horrible that swim + girlfriend did not even finish it. the trip was not super-intense, but there was hallucinations and a very nice euphoric feeling. swim has a good scale so he doesnt see how this could be? thats well under 15 grams per person...
SWIM once consumed 15g of peruvian torch put in 00 gel caps. Got a very nice body high and some visual distortions. Was hilarious walking around the local supermarket with a friend. After a few hours though the experience turned bad, SWIM complained of terrible paranoia and then later on really bad head and stomache ache. Followed by nightmarish visions when trying to sleep. Problem with cactus powder is it polymerises with water and forms a gloopy slime in your stomach which is pretty hard to digest I'm guessing and made SWIM feel pretty crappy. Although saying that SWIMs friend had a much better time as did another couple of SWIMs friends who only took 10g each (although they had weed to reduce the nausea which SWIM did not)
"So me and my mate ate 15g worth of peruvian torch powder (SWIM weighed around 170lb), unfortunately this trip report isn't going to be a very positive one as I actually didn't have much fun at all. Anyways here we go, time was a bit screwed up, seemed to go very slowly at points so I can't be sure of exactly what time stuff happened.
At 2:30pm I got to my friends house and straight away we took the 28 capsules containing the bright green powder. It took about 10mins to get them all down. We layed watching tv for about an hour and decided to go walk down to the supermarket to get some food, couldn't feel anything at this point. It took us about 30mins to walk there and by the time we were in the store we started feeling a bit strange. Everything had a sort of not real qulaity about it and although we had been there 100s of times before it just felt different. As we were standing still in the queue we felt distinctly different, we couldn't stop smiling and were getting slight visual distortions, like when I looked into the trolley the metal bars seemd to bend and curve. Colours were also different but I'm not really sure what it is that is different about them.
We walk back up to my friends house and felt fine on the walk, when we got back to his house we layed on his sofas and watched some more television hoping to feel some stronger affects building up. We felt really relaxed and had quite a nice body buzz, visual distortions were quite slight but noticeable. The walls and floor shifted about a little and clours were more vivid. This was about 2hours after initial injestion. After lieing down for only 20mins it felt like we had been there for hours. We watched tv for a bit longer and then another one of my mates turned up with his girl friend. We stayed at the house for maybe another hour feeling quite nice. We decided to try eating, we had been eaten nothing all day so were feeling very hungry. Unfortunately whilst the food tasted really good it did make me feel a bit ill.
So far the experience has been quite good but still no incredible visuals which we were expecting. We then left the house and got driven to the park by our sober friend. A load of our other friends were meeting there and we played football and frisbee for a bit. I felt kind of drunk with a pretty big body load which made getting up quite hard and walking took a bit of effort. The grass raised and dipped like water and if I looked down at the ground it seemed to by sloping away from me like I could see the curvature of the Earth. I was feeling more socialable than normal and enjoyed talking to everyone. I then went off to the woods to go for a piss and started getting very paranoid, I kept turning round cos I thought people were looking over my shoulder. I'm not usually that self conscious but I was getting very jumpy and was glad to get out of the woods. I then became more paranoid and it was easy for my friends to spook me. I then started feeling pretty shite, my stomach began to really hurt and I got a pretty bad head ache. I tried to ignore it by playing frisbee which kind of helped. I had no idea of time passing and when we left the park it was about 11pm. We walked back to my friend's house, the guy who took the powder with me, as I was staying the night at his. We watched tv for ages without realising, I got to bed about 2am. I felt so bad my stomach really hurt and my head was pounding with the most intense head ache I have ever had. I could feel the veins bulging from my temples and my heart beat was considerably highter than usual. It took what seemed like forever to fall asleep and I was seeing very surreal messed up images as I drifted off.
This morning I had a terrible hangover and have got to go to work for 6hours in a minute which I am really not looking forward too. My vision was a little messed up this morning if I looked at things more than a couple of metres from me they seemd to shake about. Anyways the first couple of hours were quite cool but I soon felt very ill and became very paranoid. I had no amazing full blown hallucinations which I was really wanting. I am confused as a few of my other friends tried out the exact same powder a few weeks prior and said they were seeing people and trees and plants and stuff and couldn't stop laughing. And they took less than me. Maybe I needed to take more but I would of been sick for sure and I don't think I could of swallowed any more capsules. I think if I was to ever try this again I would have to perform an extract on the powder or just get some pure mescaline, although that would be very unlikely as it very rarely get sold on the street in its pure form and is often wrongly mislabled and turns out to be acid instead. Ah well win some you lose some."
SWIM had considerable number of experiences with different hallucinogens before this experiement with LSA, DXM, DMT (ayahuasca) and shrooms.
SWIM tried boiling 20g of PT in a saucepan on a hob for 20 mins and letting it simmer for 2-3 hours, consuming the liquid but not the solids. He added a bit of water every so often like the shop ass. recommended. It had little to no effect. He was v disappointed.
26-05-2006, 20:42
Dry Peruvian Torch: dosage - duration - intensity
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