harmaline and tryptamines

[rxbandit]

does anyone have any experience with harmaline with tryptamines other then dimethyl SWIM enjoys ayahuasca but has heard reports of great intensity with combonations of other tryptamines and harmaline.

greatly interested in anyones experiences.

[GDxCAT]

there are alot of reports of mushrooms mixed with harmaline aswell as a few od DPT with harmaline.

I personally have no experience mixing tryptamines with MAOI's but i imagine that any 4 ho tryptamine will be greatly potentiated in the way that mushrooms are. Actually, not only potentiated but it will change the character of the trip.

I would be weary of combining MAOI's with 5 meo tryptamines only because of the inherent body load that they already have. Im guessing that the MAOI would only make it alot worse.

Please report back if you end experimemting with this combination.

[enquirewithin]

I would be weary of combining MAOI's with 5 meo tryptamines only because of the inherent body load that they already have. Im guessing that the MAOI would only make it alot worse

Harmaline has a reputation for causing nausea by iself, so I would be very hesitant about mixing with orally active tryptamines. Also, for SWIM they are potent enough already!

[GDxCAT]

enquirewithin, do mean that you would be hesitant in combining harmaline woth any orally active tryptamine or just 5 meo tryptamines.

If you are talking about any tryptamine than i should remind you about all the mushroom huasca reports that exist. Alot of poeple tend to think its a very worthwhile experience. Im guessing an iprocin/miprocin/ethocin huasca would be pretty interesting aswell.

i dont think its wise to combine harmaline with 5 meo tryptamines though because as yu mentioned harmaline causes nausea and for alot of people so do 5 meo tryptamines.

[rxbandit]

SWIM plans on trying harmaline with miprocin but can attest to the wonders of harmaline and psilocybes although there is a purge it feels cleansing and pure.

[snapper]

Many a report out there on 5meodmt-huasca mostly positive but intense. SWIM once combined 5meo at AMT peak - the normally 30-60s peak lasted over an hour. SWIM assumes the similar would apply when combined with a MAOI. Since the effects of the other 5meos are best in the lower dosage range, there does not seem to be much point.
Harmaline/harmine and DPT work well together and they do change its character a great deal. Becomes much more dreamy than electric, with richer visuals and some sedation. Probably the same with less available unsubstituted tryptamines.

Snapper

[Sick Jack]

Hi,

What dosage should be recommended when mixing DPT and an MAOI ?

[Sarin]

A friend reported a rather astonishing experience with 126mg of Harmine HCL with 250mg DPT HCL. There was extreme nausea at first (after about 10-20 minutes of dosing with the DPT - the Harmine was taken 30 minutes prior) which was very worrying until he realised that this was a positive body reaction at which point the nausea and near-panic subsided instantly. Incredible architectures of light (eyes closed) were then experienced, the opportunity of change his genetic coding and next weeks lottery numbers were offered - both declined! - and he saw every face he had had back through to his original one. Many more extraordinary experiences followed.

A second experiment saw the taking of 100mg Harmine and 280mg DPT. The date taken was very relevant as it was the anniversary of his mother's death. This time it was a much darker experience whereas the internal architecture was constructed of 'anti-light' or 'black-light' (not as in ultra-violet) and was much simpler and completely geometric with perfect symmetry very reminiscent of the ground plans of Cambodian Buddhist temple architecture. Visions of tumors and other horrifying images were experienced but there was a very strong sensation of the DPT letting him know that he was safe at all times and that this imagery needed to be confronted.

Nitrous was added this time to incredible effect in that he saw a universe form between his finger tips (he believes that he felt the terror that the Creator felt...), and with the last couple of hits (10-15 carts in all were consumed) resulted in what can only be explained as 'death'. I'll ask him to explain more about this aspect if anyone requires!

Prior to these combinations he had taken 100mg of DPT by itself which had produced a seemingly low threshold experience where there was a sensation of light behind everything (eyes open) trying to show itself or breakthrough, but was otherwise unremarkable.

His next time he intends to try 150mg Harmine and 250mg DPT - sadly this won't be possible for some weeks.

Needless to say - the literature is very clear that DPT is rather unpredictable and caution must be ascribed regarding dosage on a person by person level.

Edit - These figure relate to amounts taken orally with strict dietry precautions followed.

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[snapper]

SWIM has always preferred DPT through non oral routes, esp vaporization. At that level, SWIM has had really great experiences with a preload of 250mg harmaline (~5g pegasum seeds crushed) and vaporization 2 hours after. Also taken tryptamines first, then vaporized freebase harmine or pegasum lemon extract at peak - vaporized harmala alkaloids work really well.
BE very careful and start very low with MAOIs and anything - this is why vaporization is best to slowly build up the effect and determine individual threshold.

Snapper