why has it gone wrong

[adzket]

right first lett me exsplain speed in the uk we have 3 main types.
1.speed you can snort.
2. base stronger speed like putty (can't snort)
3. meth.

right now to my ? swim had the second type. was told when not using it to keep it in cold place ether fridge or frezer. when swim don this. the next time he went to use it it had gone all powdery and he said it was not as strong or he could no longer get doseag right. anyone got any ideas as to why this happend what swim could do in futer.

[jduba]

it prob just had time to dry most amph when fresh have an oily residue or are just right out wet, as far as potency im not too sure as to why it may have dropped but swim has found that once he had a fresh batch a couple hours laying in the fresh sun did wonders for the product (not sure about a frig)

[adzket]

swim was told to put it in a cold place to stop all the oils runing out of product.. was this bad advice?

[wertfun]

Originally Posted by adzket

right first lett me exsplain speed in the uk we have 3 main types.
1.speed you can snort.
2. base stronger speed like putty (can't snort)
3. meth.

right now to my ? swim had the second type. was told when not using it to keep it in cold place ether fridge or frezer. when swim don this. the next time he went to use it it had gone all powdery and he said it was not as strong or he could no longer get doseag right. anyone got any ideas as to why this happend what swim could do in futer.

They keep it in freezer not to loose weight of the product. Swiw experienced keeping many times in his pocket, it melts and gets oily but doesnt make much different for swim because he never sell or give to someone else.And dosage is ofcaurse wont be the same amount but about speed dossage doesnt have to be that accurate. Another thing, you can snort that powder now, it just got drier.

[Ahuaeynjx]

Are you guys proposing that amphetamine HCL can be oily ?

I am curious because my other posts mention that SWIM has had a similar result by catalytic hydrogenation of an unknown ephedrine derivative... Although SWIM has not tried to put it in the fridge and see if it would solidify. It was very oily like 50% crystals and 50% yellowish clear oil smelling like plastic.

What does that Amph you are talking about smells like ?

If it is indeed base as the poster tought ; it would be useless to snort it because base will not readily absorb through the skin, but if SWIM eats it it will combine with the HCL in the belly and be re-converted to the base in the bloodstream.

This is SWIM's understanding of the matter.

Namase,

Ahu

[adzket]

i will tell swim that this is now snortable, yes this is base like you say more of a yellow / brown color than white and is oily and like sticky putty rather than a powder. swim says this base smells like cat pee or plasticy but stronger.

[hh339]

Many people SWIM has talked to actually "waters" the speed before selling it. Assholes. "Smell it, its good shit. It reeks of ether!" they told SWIM. Fresh speed-paste from Holland they called it^^ Is that what people refer to as "oily speed"?

[adzket]

nope not in swim's exsperiance it is base speed it is purer than normal powderd speed which has been cut with glocouse or something simerla. i have never heard of people putting water in it as this would disolve the speed due to its water solubility. base is naturaly oily like i said above its a slight yellow/ brown color and like putty that you use to put window's in with. not past atualy thinking about it if swiy was to put a very small bit of water into the powder it would go a bit pasty as i rember whem swim's speed got all sweaty in a club once it was more like a thickish custerd or thick cream. so i could see how swiy could get told this was base but it's not. also when base gets warm the oil comes out of the putty type stuff and is yellow oil not watery in consistancy.