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Old 10-06-2012, 22:40
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How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

Ok so I am 19 years old and am not diagnosed with ADHD, however, I do seriously believe there is a possibility that I may have some mild form of that. Nonetheless, I have been able to get fairly decent grades in school until this past semester when I failed to reach my potential. Also for some background, The last 6 months have been hell for me as a lot of things are changing in my life that are causing me absurd amounts of stress.

I came out as gay to my family and nobody is recieving it well, and I don't have a lot of people I can talk to. Also my parents are divorcing and shit seems to be falling a part. I've been on anti-deppressants for years and they do nothing but help me sleep when i take them at night (which is the only good thing about them). Rather than resorting to illegal drugs are more dangerous habits to cope, I was wondering if a very small vyvanse prescription could help. I've tried it before for anxiety and it was nothing like anything else. I didn't feel super high, and never got addicted, nothing like that. My mom says that because its too close to adderall which is commonly abused no doctor will give me this and that i am pathetic for just seeking another high...

I know somebody who was given vyvanse in conjunction with an SSRI to help with anxiety and deppression so would it really be that impossible to find someone who's willing to do that?

I'm seriously not even looking to get high. It is my understanding that vyvanse has a much lower abuse potential and what i love about it is that you dont get this huge rush like on adderall. My current psychiatrist sucks. All he will give me for anxiety is hydroxyzine (an antihistamine!), bupropion (an anti-deppresant) and strattera which is for adhd, but it is very mild and that just made me feel odd. None of them did anything positive for me. I know for a fact the positive benefits that I can get from vyvanse. I feel much more in control of myself when i am on it, even at a dose below 30 mg...

Also my regular doctor will do nothing but refer to a mental health specialist, so that seems to be all i can do...Some psychiatrists dont even like to give drugs out at all

But I have a feeling it is pretty hopeless. Nobody will believe a stupid 19 year old because they think they're just looking to get high...its always the same isn't it? Do you think my best hope is just get extremely lucky and find a doctor who trusts me? Or will no explanation I can give be enough to convince anyone? Thanks for the help
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Old 10-06-2012, 23:52
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

Go to a different specialist. For swim it was a hit and miss. Swims last specialist basically asked him what he wanted, and didn't seem to care as long as he was getting paid. Swim would get adderall, valium, and ambien every 3 month visit. And had refills to last all because he told doc he was anti social. He told swim he had social anxiety and dished it all out even when He told him he needed to up the dose, he would just say ok and be on with it.also theres no real test to tell if you have ADHD just questions, so if you think u have it then answer the questions like u would.it's basically that you can't pay attention and bam. As for the gay thing, they will eventually come around. It's not like there's anything you can do about it.
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Old 11-06-2012, 00:25
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

so does that mean it should not be a psychiatrist that i should see? what kind of doctor? because my normal everyday doctor just refers me elsewhere. do you know what kind of specialist you saw? because i'd do anything to be able to see that kind of doctor. the trick is to find someone in my insurance. because if not then the co-pay is absurdly high. guess to get that kind of doc who is more free-minded on prescribing potentially dangerous things when its you paying them more. hmm...
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Old 11-06-2012, 00:49
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

Sweetie, go to another psych, and another if no good. My question is with all that's happening are they even
Bothering to HEAR what you saying or are you telling them?

It's a huge thing what you are going through, it takes time to settle and be comfortable in your own skin so
To speak. Your parents are also leaving an uncomfortable comfort zone called marriage, this would be
Affecting both them and yourself.

I understand 19, it's just so intense and you want it all to happen like yesterday do you not?

Your mum sounds like you can talk openly she may be a better psych than anyone at present and may
Appreciate you just being there for her. As I don't know the circumstance with Dad I won't comment except
Maybe a bit of communication with him would be good also. Point being if you do get your script you
Dont want any dark pushed down emotional issues bubbling up and overwhelming you better to get
Sorted before dealing with any other substance.

Good luck with your journey, stay safe and be kind to your parents, after all they're only human.
Hugs from Buzybeejen

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Old 11-06-2012, 01:06
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

Pretty sure it was a phychiatrist, copayment was 50. Swims quack wouldn't really talk much, just how have you been feeling. I'd respond with, great the meds work. And out I go with new script. Also swim started off telling quack he got these pills from a family member and they worked wonders for him so that's why he was comfortable dishing out what he thought swim had already had success with. Sadly I have to agree with bee. Swim went through a series of chapters in his life on drugs, some good and some horrible with these meds. Masking these feelings will only make you feel worse in the long run and not at all like yourself. Just be yourself and resolve what ever needs to be resolved without drugs. If you had to ask swim if he would do it all again, he'd have to say hell no. Drugs should only be used recreationally imo. Hope this helps
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:12
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

buzybee. i tell my psychiatrist everything about my problems and anxiety, yet all he wanted to give me was useless ineffective antideppressants. i didnt get high off vyvanse, but i was sure as hell not deppressed/anxious anymore. but i doubt i'd be diagnosed at this time with adhd for them to prescribe it. all because i am a stupid teenager who wants to get high. maybe i'll get lucky and find an open minded doc...probly not though
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:09
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

Please try another pysch, don't give up ever! As for being a stupid teenager how will you ever learn if you don't
Have hitches in your life. We have all been 19 some of us still think we are! Some of the most incredible people
I have ever been privileged to meet started out 19 and confused thinking they were not up to requirements of
This so called society we all inhabit.

Buzybee has son just like you who came out at 19, that's what caught my eye when I first read your post.
It's such an incredible journey you are just beginning, I'm sure there are plenty of us reading your posts that
See all the potential life has to offer you - it's limited only by YOU. Doctors, health professionals are only
Human also, they do make errors and offer questionable advice. By keeping a journal or blog of your feelings
Through this time you will come to see that you have your own answers, really you just need to talk not
Be lectured at and bee hopes this is not what you think this is.

Good luck on the journey, smile lots even when you don't want to it helps. Don't ever be ashamed of your age,
Sexuality, or anything, if anyone has a problem than its their bag of tricks not yours. Hugs from Buzybee.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:34
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

This is not at all bad. Your fam. doctor most of the time will throw you on a mild ssri and then ship you off to a PDOC..

Some cases, depending on the doctor, may want to know if you've tried the drug. In your instance, vyvanse, without a prescription was taken and beneficial.

If you have not already, simply come out with it. Explain you are concerned with tolerence however... That follow ups must be made to monitor your progress ($$$, refills too, right?) and that you saw the magazine ads, commercials, and that damn maroon 5 youtube commercial Google advertises by Shire Pharma.

You visted the site and got the one year $30 co pay card. He/She may take your side on this....

Why? Vyvanse although has an abuse potential is a lot lower then it's predecessors addy xr and addy ir.
He/she may throw you on Ritalin/Strattera/ etc. first.... But be patient and consistent. You'll obtain it, with time.

MyF8 added 5 Minutes and 1 Seconds later...

One last thing friend... If you need the drug sooner than later...

And this one could land you a felony or prison time ( who knows )...
Or ruin a friendship... SO DO BE ADVISED.

With the economy in the toilet and a friend of yours with a legit script, I would encourage your friend to tell his/her doctor that the vyvanse lasts for a mere 4 hours and then diminishes. His/her doc may either 1) up the dose or and hopefully 2.) Prescribe a qty of 60 and tell your friend to take 1 in the a.m. and 2nd later on.

In exchange you could tell him/her a pay off for the script is good for his wallet and good for your mental status.

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Old 13-06-2012, 01:11
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

Vyvanse was the first ADHD med I tried after being diagnosed , it made my days much more bearable and soothing. After week one (40mg) , it seemed to turn into Benadryl or a sleeping aid.

Adderall works the same every day for me , I don't get high by any means -- but I can get through the day and sit still. (something I've never been able to do)
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Old 15-06-2012, 21:51
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

There ARE good psychiatrists out there who will actually listen to you. I know because I have one. I have had ADHD my whole life, but because of my "natural intelligence" still excelled in school, maintaining a 4.3 by the time I graduated high school. This was nothing compared to the 4.7 I COULD have gotten, but was enough to keep people from realizing how awful my attention span was. I got the grade I did by not studying, only doing homework hours to even minutes before it was due, and just getting by on a high IQ. It nearly killed me. I was so depressed because I felt utterly incapable of handling scholastic life and KNEW a day would come where I would have to actually study. When the day came that I had a paper due that I couldn't write a few hours beforehand, I became so disgusted with myself and so hopeless that I would ever amount to anything I actually needed to be admitted to a hospital for my own safety. I had random thoughts that perhaps I had ADHD, but never voiced them until I found a new psychiatrist when I was 18 or 19. I finally told him that no one would believe I had ADHD because no one with untreated ADHD could do as well as i did in school. His response? "My son did." Turned out his son had a very similar story.

I'm not going to say that you're going to find a psychiatrist with a child with the same or a similar story, but I wanted to offer that story to show you that there ARE understanding, caring PDOCs out there.

I would suggest looking for a new PDOC. Tell them the truth. Tell them the truth again. Be willing to try alternatives, but if they don't work, tell them, "This is what the medication is doing for me and this is what it isn't doing." Understand that they most likely won't prescribe Vyvanse immediately. Also, although you didn't express any interest in benzos for your anxiety, I still want to say that I would suggest you NOT try to ask for both a stimulant and a benzo at the same time (if you do happen to be interested in a downer other than hydroxozine, which I will say I have found helpful). They just both have addiction/abuse potential and looking for two potentially abusive/addictive drugs on your first visit would, to me, possibly look like drug seeking behavior.

Perhaps others can advise you more on what I am about to discuss, but it's possible that flat out admitting to your new PDOC that you HAVE tried a low dose of Vyvanse before and that it was helpful may be to your benefit. I don't know. I happen to have an EXTREMELY understanding PDOC who more or less said he was okay with me having done ecstasy (he said, "Hey, I grew up in the 60s) and ASKED me if I had ever tried Adderall when we were finally starting me on stimulants. I don't want to tell you to act with your new PDOC the way I have with mine because I don't know that another psychiatrist will be so understanding. Hopefully others can give you feedback on my last paragraph.
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Old 19-06-2012, 15:46
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

So, for anyone who's interested, I went to see this new doctor, and she diagnosed me with ADD. I was not dishonest with her for the most part, and I was particularly truthful about my grades. After my first year in college, I got a 3.8 GPA and had much academic success, despite a fluctuating motivation at times. But what happened was I conveyed to her that taking Vyvanse to experiment before helped me feel in control of myself, and that it actually helped to calm me down. In other words, I knew what to say to make it appear as if I had ADHD. I don't feel it accurate to say I lied just to get this script because I honestly feel that this will help me in the long run for more than just my studies.

Here's some advice for people in a similar situation to me: See a doctor that is outside you insurance, because they ONLY want to see you for the money (obvious) and to keep you coming back, they'll prescribe you something every time you go see them. I got this diagnosis after just one 1-hour session with her. Now, I'll be able to try and get different kinds of meds with this label attached to me because it appears legit. The catch with the psych doctors is that they can only write out actual prescriptions on paper rather than calling them in, so you have to see them every 30 days when you run out of your supply. THAT is how they make their money! They charge $300 a session (your insurance may help you out some if they are out of your network by paying you back) and the system in place makes it so you have to see them a lot so you can get what you need...I mean, so they can "help" you. I wish it wasn't so damn expensive (little did I know Vyvnase's price...) but its very easy to just answer questions to make it seem like you've got ADD. Good luck to anyone out there
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Old 25-06-2012, 18:56
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

simple go to a psychiatrist that isnt like community mental health or a free clinic bullshit get one ur insurence covers but u still have a co pay, then when he says and what would you like this month u tell him i would like vynase because my class load is very big lol
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Old 29-06-2012, 06:23
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

@ OP :There are several different medicines out there for add/adhd and they aren't just vyvanse and adderall, as I am sure you are aware. Look more into the types of medication you are seeking. Read reviews, not on a forum like this one for instance, but on a web journal or a database published or written by an MD.

First off Psychiatrists usually are not the people writing your prescription. Most psychiatrists I personally know have a considerate amount of schooling[i.e. PhD(Doctor of Philosophy)], yes, But, they do not have the ability to write a prescription for medicine. That is why most psychiatrist practices I have seen are set up in a MD's (Doctor of Medicine) office. That allows them to "recommend" to the MD the medicine you should be prescribed. Then that office can write your prescription right there.(I Heard that for years, "I'm going to recommend that you be placed on..." whatever.)

BUT, if you're wanting to fool a doctor into giving you medicine. That is going to be hard. They are, after all, doctors and you don't get that title from being stupid. AND there is the fact that if your psychiatrist has deemed it unsafe for you to take such medicine for whatever reason. You might want to listen and consider just riding it out for a while just to see how things go. Don't just go looking for drugs to fix your problems. Yes medicine is helpful but the human body and mind is also an amazing work of wonders. In time you will see that, human willpower can influence your body and mind and make some really cool changes in a relatively short amount of time.

Otherwise family practices with one leading physician that are used to seeing children rather than adults (which you are now by the way) are usually the most willing to help in any way possible. Make your own appointment for a check up and go in on your own. Tell the receptionist that you would like to see the leading physician and not the physicians assistant. This is because, the leading physician is most likely more confident in themselves. Consequently they do not want to show signs of ignorance. OR they have more experience dealing with such matters. Where as; if a PA has any doubt in his or her mind they will most likely just refer you to a mental health specialist (psychiatrist). Which i believe you stated you did not want to happen.

Talk to the doctor about your grades and then just like someone said before me. You COULD tell him or her that you are having trouble concentrating on everyday tasks. Read up on signs and symptoms before you go. Doing so could help you recognize some of your "OWN" signs and symptoms that you could then discuss with that person.

Good luck, I don't know many people personally who have fooled doctors. But as always there is corruption in the system and im sure it is quite possible.
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Old 29-06-2012, 08:50
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

If you're requesting to try a new medication for a logical reason in hopes of bettering your treatment and your psychiatrist is refusing to listen to you, then the simple answer is you need to find a new psychiatrist, because the one you're seeing sounds like he isn't very good at his job

maybe try mentioning you might go see someone else if he doesn't let you give Vyvanse a try

honestly I don't see why he wouldn't want to let you try it, my psych asked ME if I wanted to try it, and I'm much happier than I was with Adderall
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Old 29-06-2012, 15:09
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

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First off Psychiatrists usually are not the people writing your prescription. Most psychiatrists I personally know have a considerate amount of schooling[i.e. PhD(Doctor of Philosophy)], yes, But, they do not have the ability to write a prescription for medicine. That is why most psychiatrist practices I have seen are set up in a MD's (Doctor of Medicine) office. That allows them to "recommend" to the MD the medicine you should be prescribed. Then that office can write your prescription right there.(I Heard that for years, "I'm going to recommend that you be placed on..." whatever.)

BUT, if you're wanting to fool a doctor into giving you medicine. That is going to be hard. They are, after all, doctors and you don't get that title from being stupid. AND there is the fact that if your psychiatrist has deemed it unsafe for you to take such medicine for whatever reason. You might want to listen and consider just riding it out for a while just to see how things go. Don't just go looking for drugs to fix your problems. Yes medicine is helpful but the human body and mind is also an amazing work of wonders. In time you will see that, human willpower can influence your body and mind and make some really cool changes in a relatively short amount of time.
I'm not trying to fool anyone, I was honest with my new doctor and she diagnosed me with ADHD. I told about my 3.8 gpa in college so far and she said that's not uncommon for people with it to still be really smart. I'm not just seeking the stimulants for studying purposes, but all the time I am running around doing half-assed work on just about everything. I'm tired of it. So far the Vyvanse has helped me immensly just to remain motivated on one thing at a time. I don't even get too much of a high off of it and I don't think I have a very high affinity for stimulants in higher doses like some people

You're also completely wrong. Psychiatrists CAN prescribe. That's about all they do. Only psychologists can't write prescriptions, they act as counselors more than anything. But a good psychiatrist will do more than just throw pills at you. They will talk to you about how things are going and why you feel they way you do about things. But they definitely do focus on treating with medications.

Like I said, I didn't have to really lie to get the Vyvanse. So I'm not really concerned that she may be over-prescribing to me. Maybe she is, but I know I'm not at risk for anything dangerous with these meds, and they have only helped me so much so far. The only thing is vyvnase was 220 dollars. Won't do that again. I'll probably try for adderall XR or something more longer-lasting next time. We'll see
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

It seems like it can be a bit harder to obtain amphetamine prescriptions if you don't live in the mid-west (believe me, everyone and their dog is on Adderall, Vyvannse or Focalin) , but you just need to be patient when requesting new meds.

Don't expect to walk into a doctor's office and announce, "I have ADD. Maybe I need medication?"

My friend (one of the few who doesn't have a script) tried this and her doctor yelled at her, "I WILL NOT prescribe you speed). It was a bad approach . . .

ADD is a sucky disease, but what my friend did was go see a therapist for 6 months, who referred her to a shrink, who prescribed her Addies on the first day since my therapist told him - "This girl has the worst ADD I've ever seen." Sigh.

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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

Swim can relate.. Difficult to get a new prescription for adderall or Ritalin because most doctors swim personally believes look down upon due to age. Swims experience on many amphetamine meds including Vyvanse have each been not necessarily a spacey high but a flowing feeling that felt relaxing, sensibly empowering and a touch of "you slashed my tires you say? Whatever life is going to be OK" ha.. Swim swears! Swim has been on anti depressants as well, at times in conjunction with adderall. Sometimes when swims psychiatrist would renew the adderall, swims psych would inform swim that he was not necessarily prescribing it for ADHD but for the daily depressing, at times racing, manic thoughts that prevented swim from desiring good things in life.

I'm sorry too hear about the trouble with your personal life. I'm a few years older buy can immensely relate with the family trouble and sexuality. I've gone through a lot of therapy and all that shananafsnsdjdjd blah blah. Totally feel free to message me..
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:10
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

My good friend has used many semi-dishonest acts to obtain what he needed, always keeping in mind the ends justify the means.

For example when first getting out of rehab after too much partying, he went with his mother down to a rich addictionologist/psychiatrist to figure out what was wrong with him. My friend had other plans though, and instead told the Dr. he didn't care much for drugs and had never had any problems with them.

The Dr. asked 25 yes or no questions to him, and my friend answered yes to every question except-Do you misplace things often?-Leading his new "shrink" to inform he has both inattentive and hyperactive forms of ADHD, after which the Dr. proceeded to write down Vyvanse, Adderall XR, Adderall, Ritalin, and Concerta down on a white piece of a paper. He explained which ones would be taken once a day and which two or three times. My friend was nervous and had heard the word Strattera mentioned, felt like the Dr. was leaning towards Vyvanse, and so picked it, knowing only that it must have some stimulant properties. Boy was he happy when he put it in his smartphone minutes later.

During that session my friend also, and I don't condone this, did the old confuse, act dumb, ask for what you want routine. I told my friend he should go to hell for it, but he insists that he will often and did after getting Vyvanse, pull this routine of his. He says it is as simple as telling the provider a bunch of information that is disjointed leaving lots of gap and wiggle room-i.e. I went to college here for a couple years I graduated recently blah blah. Then my friend said, even though he knows every benzo generic name and brand name by heart, told the Dr. that "he had been umm getting prescribed..uhh....for panic attacks whats it called...zanix? Oh xanax right. What dose you say? Well she has rose me up to 2.0mg a day from tolerance. OK thanks for the scripts and you take care! And that was the life of my friend.

At least three or four other occasions he was able to receive full-strength full-month supplies of both vyvanse and xanax, klonopin, etc. simply by informing his new provider that he was living somewhere about two hundred miles away from where he is now, but back now, and his psychiatrist there....ahh what was her name...ahh it was like...ahh damn i cant remember....well she had me on vyvanse and klonopin for adhd and panic attacks/GAD. And each time my friend walked out with scripts that were almost as fun to go get as they were to fill and consume. PS my friend got killed for being such a cocky prick so DO NOT attempt any of that at a physicians office!
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Re: How to get a Vyvanse prescription from psychiatrist?

I'm a little surprised at the number of responses I keep getting to this thread after saying that I got what I "wanted." Don't get me wrong though, I don't think my reasons for seeking a new doc that would prescribe my adhd meds and benzos with ease (as this one has...) are totally drug seeking, although part of me is curious to see what all the buzz is about. Part of wants to have a good time, but i also know that some of these medications out there can seriously be beneficial in the long run even if only used short term. Obviously, its a matter of risk-reward. I was on so many other anti-deppressants and things to help me sleep over the last year and a half and nothing really helped. Even when i started finding people i could talk to I felt there was still something off with me, i could feel it in my head. I mean, my parents weren't shocked at all about the adhd diagnosis, which must speak for something.

As I said before, the suspicion naturally arises when someone (me) with a great gpa and seems to have everything going (on the outside... )for him starts saying that he thinks he has add. But add is so very broad and it has NO correlation with intellegence, which made me comforted to know. ADD and ADHD are just labels, maybe they are overdiagnosed, maybe not. Who can say? I am an introvert and my hyperactivity manifested itself inwardly through my thoughts, which caused me great pain and led to occassional suicidal ideations, sorry for the dramatic details, but it was serious...hope that makes sense though.

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