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Old 15-05-2006, 14:37
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How could SWIM extract DMT from Phalaris? SWIM has heard doing that is quite uncommon because there's so little DMT in Phalaris.. How should SWIM use Phalaris then? Cuz it's the only DMT-containing plant growing around here..
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Old 15-05-2006, 20:00
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A/B extraction much like the one used for mimosa or any other DMT copntaining plant should work just fine. SWIJ will need massive amounts of plant material to get any yeild at all, and moat say its not worth the time and effort, but go for it and keep us posted.
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Old 15-05-2006, 21:12
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It's really hard to get a yield from any Phalaris. SWIM thinks it would be an absolute last resort. One would need MAD DEFATTING with Phalaris and even then, without patience and precision, one might not yield anything but a minimal amount of goo.
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Phalaris is not only a waste of time due to the low concentration of DMT, but also because the alkaloid profile includes gramine and 5-MEO which has a far greater effect than the DMT. Since there is no easy way to isolate the DMT from the other alkaloids, other plants should be considered. Acacia Obtusifolia, Desmanthus Leptolobus, and Psychotria Viridis (indoors) offer a practical alternative sustainable supply.
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i disagree. phalaris can have quite a high DMT content but it must be grown right. phalaris when stressed yields more DMT almost double to triple the yield it would if just grown normally and harvested. SWIMs made some decent ayahuasca but has not yet extracted from phalaris. heres some info on phalaris though, i think its a nice choice just because of how hearty it is and how prolific it is. i mean SWIY could just by a few thousand seeds and accidently drop them throughout a field.

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This takes some skill. Time never stops, and everyone wants to get their phalaris as big and trypty in as short time as possible. Parts you are after are leaves - leaves have the highest alkaloid contents - so dont harvest anything else -highest alkaloid concentrations are found in immature grass and leaf blades, lowest in leaf sheaths, stems and roots. Starting from seeds is easy. Get some shallow (10 cm/4") pots. Tray with edges will do, bucket is fine - anything that can hold some soil together, something that doesn't rot or suck the water from the soil. Regular plastic pots are fine. Dont use clay/unglazed ceramic pots, these hold water. Place soil in the container, wet it thoroughly, and place seeds on the soil. You can soak the seeds for 24 or 12 or 6 hours before if you want to - this will speed up the process a bit. Cover the seeds with thin layer of soil (say like 3 mm). Spray the soil with water, and cover the container with clear plastic so that humidity stays high. If you can raise the temperature couple of degrees (23-25°C), seeds will germinate faster. After couple of days first sprouts should be visible, remove the plastic .Optimum temperature for vegetative growth would be about 20-22°C. Alkaloids in phalarii can be increased with stressing. Stressing, on the other hand, slows the growth and decreases the total yield. I will refer to any action that increases the total alkaloid-yield by stressing. These methods work for both P. arundinacea and aquatica. There are three basic methods in stressing: clipping, shading and moisture-control. Clipping is relatively easy. Take clean scissors into your right hand, hold the plant still with your left hand, and |SNIP|, your plant just got stressed. But simply clipping the plants shorter will decrease your total yield. Wait until the plant is about 10 or 20 cm (1/2 ' ) high. Cut right above the leaf. Wait until you get another leaf, above which to cut, could be two days or two weeks. Clipping increases tryptamine content by 50% to even 400%. The amount of betacarbolines is roughly doubled. Shading is quite controversial issue. Shading slows the growth, and seems to affect different strains different ways. I will try to shed some light into shadows. First of all, you will probably grow your plants indoors, and if these plants are not on the windowsill, they will not be receiving anything near the light plants outdoors do, where all the studies are made. Forget shading. If you grow yours outdoors/near good light source, shading might be useful. Shade the plants for their last 1/4th or 1/5th of the growing-period. In practice, placing a sheet of glass/plexiglass or a thin net between the plants and the light source should work. Glass eats anything from couple to 20% (dirty) of the light. Amount of shading is quite troublesome, too. General mean value would be maybe 5 to 15%. Arundinacea responds to smaller shifts, halve the figures. Shading increases the tryptamine content by 20 to 30% . Moisture-stressing is also quite easy. You dont water for a week or so. Interestingly, plants droughted for a long time, produce some unknown alkaloid. Young plants respond better to drought, whereas older (+30) may not show any response in respect to the alkaloid content. Regrowths grown from droughted plants (which did not show response) had a higher alkaloid content. If you wilt, wilt young plants. No water for a period of 5 to 10 days. If any damage (brown leaf tips etc.) begins to show, stop wilting. Note that although the plants cannot be rotted to death with overwatering, it slows the growth. Let the soil dry out between the waterings. Moisture stress may as much as double the alkaloid content. To get high leaf mass, your plant needs high amounts of water, light, and nutrients. Nutrients, on the other hand, have been shown to have a negative effect on the alkaloid content - adequate fertilization may in fact lower the total alkaloid content. And stressing decreases the leaf mass. So you must walk the fine line between these two. Make a growing program, divided in 4 to 8 parts. During certain parts you maximise the leaf mass. And during certain parts you maximise the alkaloid content.
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For the Hell of it, one ounce of young Phalaris clippings was given the A/B treatment. Three defats with Xylene were done. Result was a pea sized ball of dark yellow sticky goo the consistency of fresh pine resin. Since there was the possibility that this goo contained a scheduled substance, it was immediately destroyed by fire. An observer who inhaled the smoke reported that the effect made him think of 20 - 25 mg DMT, though the alkaloid content could have been much lower if the alk were 5MEO.
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