In Court: confiscated LSD sample

[vir3nt]

swim would like to know that if when he goes to court over lsd posession and accused distribution if there will be an "exhibit" or display to the judge of the confiscated materials or even a detailed description of the container of the materials.

Please help!

[Herbal Remedy]

The judge will recieve a list of what you were arrested with (if thats what you were asking). The prosection isnt neccesarily going to bring your "stash" out, but the judge will read about it, and it will be pretty much the only thing he reads about you (possession of LSD never sounds good to a judge, no matter how you spin it...) Distribution of LSD is no joke, SWiHR was being tried for poss/distribution of LSD for one (1) tab! It was a fucking mess, but SWiHR got off easy, kinda (4 months instead of 10 years). Get a good lawyer, do some research on the topic (especially in your state), and stay out of any future trouble. Its gonna be rough getting through all this, but be strong and keep us posted, peace...

[Pinkavvy]

First, swip hopes you didn't say a fucking word about it when you were arrested. Nothing. Seriously, people need to understand that NOTHING you can say will help you at all and will ALWAYS hurt you.

Next, you need to get a good lawyer. If your lawyer is good he will require that not only is the "substance" tested and proven to be LSD in a lab (chances are, it may not be) but that the substance must be in the court to view as well. (remember you have the right to a speedy trial, hope you didn't get a "state appointed" attorney that had you waive that right or you are fucked.) In many cases it is hard for a prosecuter to PROVE that you were in posession of LSD and to prove that you were trying to distribute it. they only way the distribution charge has a chance to stick is if you sold to an undercover cop (not a C.I.) -- If swiy has a good lawyer that pushes for lab test results of the substance and for the substance to be present in court then you may get off on that alone. It usually takes weeks to get a substance back from a state lab. If it's not LSD (which is likely) then being charged for posession of LSD when there is no LSD is often enough to get charges dropped (unless you were dumb and told them what it is or might be.) Next, even if it WAS lsd when swiy was busted, the chances are the cops didn't handle it properly and by the time it's tested by the lab it's degraded down to not being LSD or being very little LSD (which if swiy had a good lawyer would take that ammount and argue that it's barely a hit, and not quanity, etc.)

The keys to not letting charges stick is 1. Keep you mouth shut completely. Say NOTHING. and 2. Good a good lawyer (not a state appointed one.)

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really good advice

[vir3nt]

yes, swim has a good lawyer, not a court-appointed bullshiter. swim waived his right to a speedy trial to further build the case and to wait until the tests come back. It has taken the lab 3 months so far. hah. I am pretty sure it will test negative. blotters contain such little lsd on them that its hard to find lsd on them even if they were kept in a good storing environment. but after being taken out of the container, inspected by the cops, then sitting in an evidence locker for a week and then getting shipped to the lab, it will most likely be impossible to find lsd on it.

[paradoks]

Originally Posted by vir3nt

yes, swim has a good lawyer, not a court-appointed bullshiter. swim waived his right to a speedy trial to further build the case and to wait until the tests come back. It has taken the lab 3 months so far. hah. I am pretty sure it will test negative. blotters contain such little lsd on them that its hard to find lsd on them even if they were kept in a good storing environment. but after being taken out of the container, inspected by the cops, then sitting in an evidence locker for a week and then getting shipped to the lab, it will most likely be impossible to find lsd on it.

I would be very careful before taking anyone's advice on the outcome of your situation unless they know the law in your country/state intimately.
Obviously the outcome is going to vary enormously depending where you live. SWIY would be in deep s#:t if they lived in Singapore for example, as aposed to someone who lives in Australia (as does SWIM) or even Amsterdam for that matter.
Also, I'm assuming you live in a western country, and if not most likely a developed nation in which case government resources and technology is something you do not want to under estimate. SWIY Hoping that traces of LSD will not be detectable is in my opinion reaching (and most likely an unlikely outcome).
You've gotta remember also, that unless SWIY has an insanely good supplier, trips will often contain little or even no LSD. Often they contain amphetamines, stricnine, and many traces of other psychotropics.
SWIM doesn't mean to make you feel any higher a level of anxiety, but if they were real trips/blotters, the chance of them not containing any trace of some illicit substance is highly unlikely (in SWIMs opinion and to the best of his knowledge)
I sincerely believe your wisest course of action is to speak to a local practising attourney/lawyer who has experience in not only criminal law, but specifically drug matters.
As knowledgable as any of us might be in the law of our land, we cant know the laws in every country and state. Lawyers/judges spend lifetimes studying law in their own country. There is no real substitute for local proffesional accredited legal practitioners.
Also, regarding the 'will they find traces of LSD' matter...Just something I thought might be worth a mention. SWIM was some years ago arrested and charged for possesion of Heroin. As SWIM was apprehended in the process of purchasing the Heroin he was hoping that (even though it was a 1/100 chance) that the 'heroin' might be fake, thereby avoiding prosecution.
SWIM expressed that thought to the detective who informed him that 'as long as its reasonable to believe that SWIM was under the impression he was in posession of real heroin..he was still commiting a criminal offense. SWIm found this hard to believe, but later found out that this information was in fact correct.I dont know if this information applies to SWIY's country/state, but its definately worth a thought.
But again i cant stress enough how seriously I suggest you seek skilled legal representation. Of course its not cheap, and many of us cannot afford a 'big shot' lawyer, but this may be one of the best investments you ever make.
SWIM has been incarcerated in Maximum security federal prison in his state/country, and can assure you...its somewhere most people REALLY DO NOT want to end up.

SWIM wishes you all the luck in the world,

Take care.

Paradoks

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intressting

[Jalad]

I'll echo what everyone else has said here. The police found 17 hits of paper blotter on SWIM and he had a lengthy legal aftermath. SWIM hired a local criminal lawyer and let him do the rest. In the end the matter was dealt with as a plea-bargain with SWIM serving a few hundred hours of community service and paying several thousand dollars in fines. Only one weekend in jail (right after the original arrest). SWIM ended up with a misdemeanor and about a $10k bill.

SWIM's advice would be three things:

• Get a good local lawyer.
• Try to COOPERATE with the prosecutor , maybe you can deal without going to trial.
• Be prepared to PAY $$$.

Good luck!

[Drunkken_Munkey]

Well it certainly sucks to be you right now. You got some serious choices to make here. First of all each hit of LSD is a conspiricy to manslaughter charge. Any kind of charge with the word "Conspiracy," you kno your in a heap of shit. That's why you got some rough desicions to make right now. Now I don't kno how many hits your friend was caught with, but I'll tell you wut, 1 hit is enough to send your ass to prision for a couple of years, imagine if he had a whole sheet on him?!! And honestly, it's probably going to come back positive. My best wishes to you that it comes back negative. But their lab tests are pretty acurate. My advice, see how the tests come up, then decide wut your going to do from there. Good luck bro, it's ashame this world can lock you up for something that really opens people up.
Peace"

[prescription]

Pinkavvy has laid down some good guidelines for anyone facing legal problems. i know of someone who got off a reasonably bad driving offence by having a good lawyer who pulled out some weird law whcih got him off the charges. A good lawyer is one of the best investments u may make and could mena the difference between incarceration and a misdemeanour.
I wish vir3nt's SWIH good luck with the remaining legal proceedings.

[vir3nt]

I happened to be googling my name today and saw this come up and thought I should update everyone on the outcome!

Its been almost a year since this whole thing went down and obviously swim isn't in jail.

It took the lab about 6 months to get the results back, which was about 2 days before the trial. Out of all the tabs (about 50 in total) none tested positive for LSD! I was amazed! My guess is because the labs are so backed up in tests that need done, whatever might have been there deteriorated.

The prosecutor dropped the charges and swim now doesent have a felony under his belt .

Swim feels somewhat guilty, however, since there are many other people that have been found guilty of much lesser crimes and are still paying the price

Thanks you everyone for your advice!

[fnord]

manslaughter(notice the word laughter in manslaughter)drunkingmonmkey is wrong aboute that probly why he was banned...but glad to hear everything worked out for you,swim was charged with poseion of lsd once when cops tested the 5-htp pills that broke open while swim was in the back of there car,he recieved 72 hours for that and criminal mishchief (vandilism) he only plead guilty because if not he would of had to sit in jail for a month on lack of bail $

[plantshaman]

it seems you got lucky . Swim says that long ago he had 10 hits of blotter and got sent away to rehab . after searching his room his parents never noticed the small strip of tinfoil containing the tabs . It had been 6 months and a very hot summer with no a/c temps up to 90 degrees . The first day after returning from rehab swim consumed 3 of the tabs and they had lost no potency at all.swim thinks Lsd can degrade easily in bad conditions but urban legend seems to have made it sound worse then it really is .

[fnord]

oh yea 5-htp test positive for lsd with a cops NIK set.because of the tryptamine group