Lets take this outside.

[Sky Walker]

I don't know about you lot, but I'm not generally a violent person and although I do enjoy a certain degree of violence I always see it as an absolute last resort, apart of course from organized sporting events. Anyway, normally in a given circumstance I can avoid violence and always try to make peace rather than fight, this is largely due to the fact that I detest pain and fear legal action. Not being a fighter or in great physical shape has nothing to do with my desire to resolve things peacefully (if it really came down to it I know some pretty nasty tricks that can be far more devastating than a solid knee to the groin, which as we all know, if your dirty enough to use will be highly effective in not only finishing the fight but also winning it) it is simply because I don't want ANYONE to get hurt. Although I detest pain there is obviously still, a very real line that has to be crossed before I feel it necessary to actually engage in a violent act. That line is crossed after the attacker forcefully lays hands on me in any way that hurts. I think this is reasonable and I'm sure most would agree.

My question though, my question to you small percentage of violent drug users, what is it that makes you crack so easy, say from people bumping into you at clubs or maybe spilling your/their drinks on you, or say maybe talkin' to your girl or someone simply looking at her or even worse someone looking at you! It's crazy man, can't you let that shit go? You really don't need to fight everyone, it ain't macho shit no more it's all about your green.

So what happens guys, some can't control it and go in a rage, some love fighting so much anyway they go looking for it, some are just complete lunatics and of course many are, not motivated by but mainly fueled by alcohol. So what simple things make you crack - and - has anyone ever been cracked by one of these simple things?

[Creeping Death]

Booze = Streinghtens the ego. Makes guys not care if they get punched in the face. It's soooooo annoying when some punk bitch has a few drinks and thinks he's the king. Ironicly, they're the most fun to hit.

[Nature Boy]

SWIM isn't a violent person either and hasn't really felt any real violent tendancies in years. It may be down to the amount of pot he smokes or maybe he's just naturally inclined to avoid fights. Booze doesn't seem to fuel his aggression either because SWIM feels lazy and groggy when drunk, not hyped up and dangerous. So basically, I don't know what makes these violent types snap. Not getting enough action in bed, plain stupidity, fucked up hormonal levels? It's anyone's guess.

[IHrtHalucingens]

SWIM has found that the 98% of the time he has THC in his system he is extrememly reluctant to fight over stupid bullshit other assholes start. But the other 2% of the time SWIM definately notices an increase in hostility and tends to become violent more quickly. The worst part is usually the 2% of the time SWIM isnt smoking he is drinking, and as stated above that can cause a raise in ego and sself-confidence, which he admits often gets him into situations he normally wouldnt allow himself in. SWIM has never gotten into a fight while smoking but seems to occasionally pick un-winnable fights with inanimate objects while drunk. So he tries to keep his drinking to a minimum and smoking to a maximum lol.

[Alicia]

Swim can agree on the alcohol front, on fighting swim loves kick-boxing, while the boyo loves kung fu -praying mantis,tai chi. We protect our own, We will never attack anyone for no reason. We'd even help people if they were being attacked for no reason. We like peace and we are never afraid to make examples of people.

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lol make examples out of people. i love it!!

[hh339]

alcohol is well known to cause violent behaviour, but there is also an increasing number of people who combine it with benzos, coke etc. sure there is more to it than that, but the drugs can easily make many people do stuff they normally wouldnt have. swims worst flip-outs have been on LSD, (that is probably very unusual) while alcohol doesnt do much to increase his hostility. even though swim can defend those acts to a 100%, they probably wouldnt have happened if the LSD had not given swim the "balls" he needed. the people that swim beat to a pulp were drunk as hell though, and (to give an example) couldnt keep their hands away from women who clearly said no. thats not an excuse, but it sure is a reason.


LOL! swim swim accidently posted a text about the tv-show big brother, how the hell did that happen?? anyway...
heres the real text about ALCOHOL AND VIOLENCE.



Alcohol and Violence


Alcohol and other drugs played a part in the imprisonment of four out of five inmates in the United States' gaols and prisons, according to a three-year study by the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University.

The study concluded that 1.4 million of the 1.7 million prisoners incarcerated in U.S. gaols and prisons in 1996 "had been high when they committed their crimes, had stolen to support their habit, or had a history of alcohol and other drug abuse that led them to commit crimes."

However, the report said that. while 840,000 Federal and state prisoners needed drug treatment in 1996, fewer than 150,000 received any care before being released.

"The most troublesome aspect of these grim statistics is that the nation is doing so little to change them," Joseph Califano Jr, the chairman of the centre that sponsored the report, said in a foreword.

Mr Califano, who served as Secretary of the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare under President Jimmy Carter, said that releasing inmates without treating their drug or alcohol addictions was "tantamount to visiting criminals on society."

While the CASA study, entitled "Behind Bars," lumped alcohol and other drug offenders together, a new study by the U.S. Department of Justice documents the close relationship between alcohol and violent crimes in America, concluding that alcohol was a factor in nearly 40 per cent of all violent crimes.
Alcohol is an even bigger factor in violence by a variety of intimates - a current or former spouse, boyfriend or girlfriend. Victims of those attacks cited alcohol as a factor in two-thirds of them. Victims of spouse violence alone said three quarters of their attackers used alcohol.

The report by the department's Bureau of Justice Statistics found that, among the 7.7 million violent crimes each year where victims can tell whether attackers used alcohol, drugs or both, 37 per cent thought their assailants were using alcohol or alcohol with drugs. Of the 5.3 million convicted adult offenders in prison or gaol, on parole or probation, 36 per cent reported they had been drinking at the time of the offenses for which they were convicted. The report also said that 500,000 victims suffer financial losses each year in alcohol-related violence, and that their losses total more than $400 million.Meanwhile, the rate of all alcohol-induced deaths fell 19 percent between 1980 and 1994, according to National Center for Health Statistics data. In addition, the arrest rate for driving under the influence of alcohol dropped by 24 per cent since 1990. In the last decade, highway fatalities blamed on alcohol sank from 24,000 in 1986 to 17,126 in 1996.

Nevertheless, local police made 1,467,300 arrests nationwide in 1996 for driving under the influence of alcohol. That was down from the peak of 1.9 million arrests in 1983 when 33 states permitted alcohol consumption before the age of 21. Since then, responding to federal highway funding requirements, every state has gone to a minimum drinking age of 21.

Relationship documented in new studies

The relationship between alcohol and violence has been further documented by researcher Ronald Roizen in an article on epidemiological issues in alcohol-related violence which appeared in a recent issue of Alcohol Alert, published by the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism. Using published studies, he summarized the percentages of violent offenders who were drinking at the time of their offence. Roizen found alcohol as a major factor in up to 86 per cent of homicide offenders, 37 per cent of assault offenders, 60 per cent of sexual offenders, up to 57 per cent of men and 27 per cent of women involved in marital violence, and 13 per cent of child abusers.

As public awareness increases of the role of alcohol in problems on the college campus, a new study by the Core Institute at Southern Illinois University has found that almost half of all college students experience violent aggression on campus, and that alcohol consumption is a factor in most assaults.

A landmark study of 90,000 students on college campuses across the United States describes the violence and aggression students experience on campus, demonstrating a powerful link between alcohol and student violence.

Philip Meilman, director of counselling and psychological services at Cornell University, is co-director of the Core Institute and co-author of the study. Meilman described alcohol control policy, education, prevention and enforcement efforts under way on a variety of campuses. But, he said, none of those approaches alone is likely to change the ingrained abuse of alcohol on campus.

"I think there has to be some environmental change. I think if we can turn the tide here and get the majority of people who use alcohol not at all or in a minimal way to let their voices be heard, they will form a critical mass that lets people know it isn't OK to get out of control," Meilman said.

The Core study specifically asked students about their beliefs about the way alcohol affects both social and sexual behaviour. The answers were conflicting. For example, most students reported that they believe alcohol to be a help breaking the ice, enhances social opportunity, and generally makes for more fun. They also believed it facilitated sexual opportunities. On the other hand, researchers found alcohol to be a factor in most rapes and sexual molestations. Students reported alcohol as a factor in 79 per cent of all rapes and 71 per cent of all forced sexual touching.

"For better and for worse, alcohol allows some students the freedom to experiment with relationships, but when combined with sexuality, alcohol can contribute to serious misunderstandings, unwanted pregnancy, regretted intercourse, and date rape," the study concluded.

Although there are several reasons why the alcohol-violence link is so strong, researchers agree that alcohol encourages aggression and violence primarily by disrupting normal brain function. For example, alcohol weakens brain mechanisms that normally restrain impulsive behaviour, including inappropriate aggression. By impairing the processing of information, alcohol also leads a person to misjudge social cues, thereby over-reacting to a perceived threat. Simultaneously, a narrowing of attention often leads to an inaccurate assessment of the future risks of acting on an immediate violent impulse.

http://www.ias.org.uk/publications/t...e9802_p18.html


Ref: the globe magazine

[Sky Walker]

Well if they can't keep their hands of woman who say no then by all means show those punks whats up but I can't really agree that alcohol is a cause for violent behaviour, just fuel. Could you please translate that last bit hh339 I tryed myself but I'm not sure what language that is.

[hh339]

lol sorry that was the part that shouldnt be there, now its edited.
yup, those punks need to learn a few things, not sure they will just by getting beat down though. if only life was that simple!