Why are drugs illegal?

[G-man]

Has any1 though if drugs where legal to every1, People loose a little of the buzz? (thats just a thought). I know the laws on marijuana don't make sence. But if it where legalised would it be along side with alcohol and what do you reckon the age restriction on marijuana would be in America and the uk? All i know is prices would be out of control and when that happens people wantit cheaper, where would that lead people ... back to street trade!

[P!MPJU!C3]

I think that if you would ask the mainstream why drugs are illegal you probably wont get farther then:"Because they're bad."

Being that politicians, the law makers in every country, have to deal with the mainstream they have to keep the main stream happy by making drugs illegal.

I dont understand, but i can imagine why drugs are illegal. It is as searcher said. The government wants a good healthy society. But i think its also more than that. I think that the government wants 2 protect one from him- or herself and others.

From others because their are drugs that make you voilent like Crack. This is not short seighted from my side but a fact because i have seen these people @ it.

What the government doesnt understand is that when they legalise drugs there will be a lot less problems because they can regulate what the drug is cut with so that people get good quality stuff which takes many dangers away. Also they will completely demolish the drug industry meaning they will have to spend a lot less on crime fighting.

If only the government of the USA would legalise weed there would be a lot less problems. In the Netherland weed is legal as everyone knows i expect. But the drugsproblem here is a lot smaller as a result 2 that.

In the end probably weed wont be legalised in America 4 a long time. The public is just not ready 4 it in the USA.

[Lara]

Hey ho,


the opinion from hollywood is quite right. MONEY is the answer. I am really not surprised that drugs are permitted in a would, in which people get much money because they drank a cup of coffie which is to hot. I don´t see there any responsibility of the people for their own body. And this people are aloud to vote the government, too. And for Do_Japan I would like to say, people who hurt themselves cost much money. Or have you to payyourself the doctor who takes your finger back to the place where it belongs and would people in U.S.A. get no medical help when unable paying themselves for it?


MONEY is the answer.


For exemple in Germany they put taxes on cigarettes. A really nice idea - much less illnesses from legal smoking would follow because many people would decide to stop smoking. BUT the government does not directly put the hole taxis on the cigarettes. They make planes to put the taxes step by step on the cigarettes. There is only one reason for doing this: fear that to many people stop smoking - the priority is the economie and the fabriks producing cigarettes and paying taxes and giving jobs to their employments - NOT the health of people.


The most money with illegal stuff make the dealers in higher positions. But what would happen to the econemie if everyone from one day to the next stops using illegal stuff? No one would steel any more to get money for their stuff. The insurance have to pay less - the prisons became more empty. What would happen to the economie and to the number of people without work? And what would happen, if the government legalize every kind of drug?


The other thing is that it is historical grown which drug is legal an which not. Everyone knows and testes alcohol and cigarettes and would feel cutted in freedom if they would be permitted, because all studies say that they harm their healthy more than shit. The old 83 years old lady would really not understand the would any longer if government permits her Tai-Ginsen for a better brain including alcohol and let sell shit by seven-eleven. The non-user only know about the cases of peoples life go in bad direction because of using drugs. The TV informs only good about that side. Sometimes well known doctors tell in TV that canabis is a drog which is as dangerous as coke or black tea but at the same time the moderator brings the agument that people start their bad drug-experience with canabis first and take more dangerous stuff later. I never unterstud why that is an argument against free canabis. For me that would be an argument to legalize canabis for separating it from "dangerous" drugs.


Thank you for reading and sorry for my pitty English.

[P!MPJU!C3]

if drugs arent legal because of money then the government is really stupid. They spend a lot more money on fighting crime then they would if they would legalise everything. The drug war costs money it doesnt generate money. If the government is so stupid 2 think theyre earning money by keeping drugs illegal they are very stupid. It doesnt have anything 2 do with money i believe.

[wizard warior]

well here we go again.i spend too much time thinking about this one,, and well my honest conclusion is that the WHOLE system throughout the Whole wrold is courrupt that means that everything is wrong,,! and its never going to be put wright,because things are sooo fucked up in the world.there is no chance of drugs everybecomming legal only more tolerated than they are now. drugs used to be legal in the sixties and lookhow fucked up that era was, tim leary was made out to be some kind of hero and he was a snitch to the fbi.so 'drugs' especially hard 'drugs' can have a Very negative effect on certain indivauls and the society as a whole.the other main reason i belive drugs' are illegal and going to stay that way,is becse the people who control the 'drugs', and the markets are big tough motherfuckers, with guns and big bad dogs and lots, and lots, and lots, of money so they can buy thier way out of jail,, buy the bent cops over for the right price,,and bascially fund thier illegal activites with more drug-dealling. so the only way to stop the stupid 'war on drugs' is to educate people then stop all these evil drug mother fuckers, once and for all and make an example to the rest of the world of these fuckers.in parts of russia they hang drug dealers and other criminals in public, now i aint saying that is right but i bet it stops people from thinking that drugs and drug dealling is okay,because its not. look at all the very young(18-25yer olds) who are totally screwed up victims,,because of taking some 'bad' stuff/ or way to high a does of 'okay' stuff, when all they needed was to be told the truth from an ealry age in school and then they would'nt have fucked with the evil shit in the first place.so my view is it that education is the only real solutuoin and heavy handed policys towards these unscrupluols 'dealer' types...pz&education

[RoboCop]

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[Creeping Death]

They're fighting it the wrong way anyways. The solution isn't less drugs. It's more drugs. Get more drugs, and give them to the right people.



People who really want drugs should have them, as they will always get them one way or another. And kids who go to a party and just try it out shouldn't. It would save a dumpload of money for the prisons, and it would be better controlled if the goverment sold them.



For example a dealer is gonna sell hash to anyone who wants it, while a store won't sell you cigarettes unless you're 18.

[P!MPJU!C3]

Is it 18 in Sweden? Its 16 here. Price Marlboro 3.90 or something and in Sweden?



Discussing why drugs are illegal is purposeless. In the end it comes down 2 1 thang: People are short sighted. This is something we will have to deal with.



Everybody knows that the government should legalise drugs but control them so that they make sure that only the right people get them. No more crime, less expenditures on policeforce and less problems with junkies.



We have to wake up. Its just not goin to happen 4 a long time. People are shortsighted and untill the day comes that people can think 4 themselfs, drugs will not be legal.

[wizard warior]

there definatley will be a time when safe drugs are free to who ever wants to use them.its just going to takea while like you say,but see how much things are changing all the time,nobody ever thought weed was ever going to be de-crimialised which is what is essentially happening in britian now.even if that is not exactally what the government intented to do in the first palce.

[P!MPJU!C3]

I was refering 2 America wizard warior. I know weed is de-criminaising in england. This is because I smoked weed over in Londen in my aunts appartment. This something I wouldnt do in America in fear of the Nazi-policeforce that is busy destroing the lives of peaceful people.

[wizard warior]

yea its cool that politicans are fianlly listening to the poeples voice and making the right desions.it will surley lift a massive burden on the nhs health service and i am pretty sure it would have the same positive effect on the u.s health system if the government ever came round to the uks current way of thinking.the trade possibilties are just massive and could generate losts of interesting jobs for people.

[P!MPJU!C3]

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[xMeTaL HeAdx]

<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Leo. on 18 September 2003
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I also think it is ridiculous that alcohol is legal and weed is not. That to me makes no sense.
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I agree man. If they were going to make weedlegal though, i would assume they would make it legal for people 21 and older.</BLOCKQUOTE>

[edgien]

WoW!!! This topic never seems to find a clear understanding butI suppose itonly goes to show thatthe endless debate via the Pros and Cons will most likely never come to a reasonable middle~ground..the problem as in the days of Prohibition isthat it is impossible to legislate thehuman spirit in regards towhat one can and cannot do in the privicy of one's home or more importantly one's own being. The growing problem in America isthemountingpressurefor Goverment to control the day by day lives of theAmerican citizen andfor theGovernment to define what is right and wrong and sad fact is the American Citizen is to blame for wanting control there but not here depending what makes them happy. Even when this is done with good intention the final conflict ends with abuse of Power where a hardworkingtax paying (which is another story) citizenwho lives within even the most primitive formof decency can be destroyed simply by growing weed for his own use within his own confines which is simply and without argument a violation of the rights of theAmerican People per the Constitution of the United States.I live in small town America where the only crime that makes the front page news along with a mug~shot has to do with some form of drug activity but one look inour public record you willfind endless crimes thatoccur with little to no concern on the part of law enforcement. I could have (and have)my house broken into by some "scum of the earth worm"and have all my possesions stolen and it would read in our public record as a "house broken into..."..Law Enforcement will blame it on a relative and go on with buisness as usual. Even the most naive person understands that alcohol and tabbcco products produce far more healthissues as say marijuana but even when the facts are laid out neat as a pin the final round alwaysends with a KO with the weed laying face down with cuffs. The Government knows the war on drugs will always be a lost cause but I can almostguarantee that until the "veil" is removedfrom "Government" the War on Drugs will only continue on and on and on...resulting inrelentless abuse of power. I would be the first to agree there are certain drugs that only resultin destroying lives but being a smoker I would also say if one smokes tabacco for 30~40 years the chances of experiancing some health issues or death would be greatbut we are the sole owner of who we are and we make our choice, it shouldnever be the role of Government or Mantocontrol that choice.For anyone who does smoke tobaccoI would like to enlighten you with these facts...American Industry is entertaining the idea of a total and complete tobacco~free workplace as well as random drug testing. thePowers to Be are also attempting to allow American Industry to prohibit their workers to even using Tobacco products~ period, and although this might appear to be a over exaggerated statement or claimI can assure you from one who works for a LARGE American "Fortune 500"Corporation these things are a priority of concern in the roundtables of CEO's in Corporate America. America is stiLL the greatest country in the world and I would never want to live in another but even the Greatest Nation,when the People lose the power to restrain the "Powersto Be" the foundation willultimatelycrack.......Gein

[OneDiaDem]

I believe it is all about control. Anything that offers freedom of mind and spirit is going to stay illegal. We cant have a bunch of enlightened free thinkers running around now can we? Alcohol is legal because if you think about it, it clouds thinking. It doesnt exactly make way for discovery, unless you call puking in your shoes enlightening.

[P!MPJU!C3]

I wouldnt say all drugs are enlightening. Psychodelics yes, but amphetimens? Amphetimens just make your body really tense, I wouldnt think they enlighten people much.

[FrankenChrist]

Why in America? Protestant puritanism. When they fled Europe, those f*kers should have died out on the way over.

The drug war has become a self supporting system of lies. But we must not give up. It's a war of the government against its own people.

[thydarkprevails]

i lay a lot of blame in the US, with christian fundamentalists...it is the same as the abortion issue....we are not supposed to do something as a nation, because it is not gods will? i'm sorry, but since when was following the word of god a prerequisite for being a citizen of the united states..I, myself am not a christian, and have not been since the age of 8, does this mean I am committing treason, not following gods will? after all, certian politicians seem to emphasize the importance of god in our society..and laws...

[windtraveler]

I cant stand turning morality into laws and policy. When that starts happening (and it has been happening in the US for years) then the moral majority starts imposing its beliefs onto the moral minority, and holds power over them and the politicians. The question is why are drugs illegal, but you have to look at the rational for the status now AND why they were made illegal in the first place. Why were they made illegal in the first pLace? Probably for control over the masses, for power, for money, especially power over the minorities. Why are they still illegal? Probably because the majority of Americans have been brainwashed so thoroughly that they actually want it kept this way. "Drugs are wrong!" "Drugs are BAD!" "There would be complete mayhem if marihuana were legalized. This country would go to hell in a handbasket!" Any logical arguments on the contrary go in one ear and out the other.

But also the government has invested too much time, energy, and resources to change. How many jobs have been created by these laws? Who are the people that most want drugs to remain illegal? The DEA....and drug sellers. As far as i am concerned, drug sellers and the DEA are on the same side of this war. Both are making a lot of money doing what they are doing, while americans are losing out on both freedom of mind/body and freedom of wallet.

I thought we were a country (i am american) founded on the principle of the freedom of the pursuit of happiness, but i guess that only applies to a few these days.

[Lynchx]

drugs are ilegal to due most do cause damage to the brain and basically it would be hard to tax for the gov lol

[dr ACE]

drugs need to stay 'illegal' because of the massive profits and revenues that arecreated by them now. it is not really a war as much as an underground revolution in the diverse methods and techniques now used to make drugs.its more about info and know how not so much psyhical warfront like confrontaions,i think thats just a bullshite term made up to make ppl think that it is the drugs falut that this war is now 'happening' but really its down to ignorance and lack of first hand experience

[Jupiter]

Love this forum. There's too many people making money off of it being illegal. Judges, lawyers, police, politicians, councelers, the list goes on and on. What would those ppl do if drugs were legal? Get real productive jobs that actually contribute to society? I'm not sure they can. And what about property forfitueres? Scarry stuff. And incentives for the police to lie. It's all about a ruling class dictating the behavior of everyone else, with no middle class. I challenge everyone to check out the libertarian point of view. http://www.lp.org/ I wish pot could be legal. Came close a few times. But the truth is, there would be no way to tax it. Too many ppl could grow it in their backyards. How do you tax that? But to make marijuana illegal has made criminals of many, many folks. The US locks up more of it's citizens then any other "free" country. War on drugs is a joke. Give me a f**cking break!

Long story short, because making drugs legal would piss off way more people than it would please.



The pro-drug community is TINY compared to the anti-drug community. Not
only that, but the anti-drug people are way more likely to be
registered, active voters. How many drug users do you know who vote in
every election, write letters to their representatives, all that? We
don't have a coherent lobby, and the D.A.R.E. people do; that's the
problem.



Personally, I think legalized/decriminalized marijuana is only about a
generation away from happening in the U.S. As for psychedelics, they
are way further away from being openly tolerated, probably not in our
lifetimes -- but maybe someday.



Everything else, you can pretty much get by prescription.

[Dreeker]

Druggss are bad. Mkkaaay???

[Dreeker]

But acutally legalizing weed would be bad, the tobacco companies would pump it full of nicotine to get us addicted that we couldnt stop


Decriminalize minor (&gt;1 oz) completely


less than4 ozsthey should just ticket you and take the substance


more than a pound would be drug trafficking (4oz-lb would be something in between, maybe like bigger fine)