Why are drugs illegal?

[Do_Japan]

The more anti-drug material I read the more I see how bias it is.I have come to the conclusion that it has absolutly nothing to do with our health, the government doesn't give a shit about us. The simple fact is when we are out partying, having fun, bothering no one, we arnt at home paying taxes. I feel thats the true reason drugs are illegal. People who say kids drink and do drugs because they have emotional problems or are depressed have their heads up their asses. Apparantly the combined mind power of every anti-drug supporter in america could not come up with the simply idea that we drink and do drugs because they are f**king fun! Why should they be illegal we only hurt ourselves, if i want to cut off my finger god damnit I will cut my f**king finger off, if i want to kill my brain cells then I will kill my brain cells. No f**king government is going to tell me what to do with my body!

[Leo.]

I think... it is because of a few reasons... drugs can be so good and yetthey can also be the complete opposite, so bad they can cause death. Something that is able to have that kind of effect should not be taken lightly,and it is understandable to me why a government might done it as illegal. And when we are out partying, there is no guarentee everyone will just have fun or not bother anyone... people can be stupid, we are only human. It's probably not you the law is for, but that dumb f**k down the street who causes havek and makes everyone else suffer for it.

[Do_Japan]

I guess that is true, but it seems uneccesary to such harsh laws. If you want to have fun you have to take risks, otherwise your life will be pretty f**kign boring. I was just angry about my recent MIP before, but im over it now and more understanding after I met my drug/alcohol analysis counsilor and he seemed to be a cool and understanding guy, i was expecting some bitch who would say things like "if you had a hang over in the morning that was your body being addicted to the alcohol and craving more, you have a problem" just bull shit like that that my friend's counsilor told him really made me hate the government for a temporary period of afew days.

[Leo.]

I also think it is ridiculous that alcohol is legal and weed is not. That to me makes no sense.

I think that it is very simple: alcohol does not shift your consciousness; it numbs & inhibits. Psychedelics & Cannabis will get you philosophical, making you think outside the masses, at least once in a while. What do you think would happen to the now so easy to controll and manipulate masses, if psychedelics and marijuanawould be part of every day life of these masses?


If you think that this thought is to far out, please note that the authorities are well aware of what happened, when psychedelic drug use was at it's peak in the sixties and the US was going to war. Do you think George could have started one war after another with only weak excuses, in a time like that? The masses need to be controlled.

[hollywood]

I agree, but all so it boils down to money. The government is looseing millions and millions. I think this is what motivates them to act like they do about drugs. It sure as hell isn't our health............................................ .....

[salineman]

well yeah


and a lot of people are very un- or disinformed about most drugs


a lot of people swallow the shit every school, politician, or government program feeds them. its actually a problem that affects MUCH more than just how society in general views drugs. i could go on for hours and days about this.


and its also the faults of addicts and irresponsible users. drugs were never really a huge deal at all until the late mid-60s when many reports arose of the "counterculture" taking hallucinogens and doing rediculously dangerous and/or fatal things.


and then of course charles manson came along and f**ked up the reputation of lsd forever


and then the late 60s & early 70s rolled around. heroin made a huge comeback and the numbers of addicts skyrocketed.


and finally, with the 80s and early 90s came the arrival of crack and heroin came back again. every inner city in america was filled with addicts and thats all anyone else saw of drug users. addicts.


so good job, assholes

[Woodman]

DAMN, I'm glad to see this topic!



I'ld like to offer a slightly different perspective, though.



Just about everyone who has posted here seems to be approaching this issue from a social angle. I don't consider that unreasonable as I, too, believe that drug use is an issue of personal choice.



Having stated that, I am also compelled to point out that there is no small amount of MONEY and POWER involved in the distribution & consumption of illicit drugs.



In my opinion (and it's just theory) Hollywood has come closest to the mark; consider his posting:





Originally posted by hollywood on 06 October 2003I agree, but all so it boils down to money. The government is looseing millions and millions. I think this is what motivates them to act like they do about drugs. It sure as hell isn't our health.

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...But, unlike Hollywood, I do NOT believe that the US Government is ; LOSING money. To the contrary; I believe they are MAKING money, and doing it hand over f**king fist.



I think that it is in the best interest of various political factions to keep drugs illegal. This is done to create jobs for entire departments of Federal, State, & Local, government bureaucracies. It also serves as a wonderfully fictitious socio-political issue to champion during election periods in order to generate votes.



Let's face it, if the US Government were serious about the "War-on-Drugs" then it would NO LONGER be an issue because there would be NO war!



Consider what would happen if the US applied the same urgency to the "War-on-Drugs" as was applied to the "War in Vietnam,"



If THAT were the case then, I would posit, we would have legalized & taxed both heroin & cocaine a long ago.



The whole thing is a BULLSHIT political agenda, and what really pisses me off is that there are a lot of really good people who died (and are continuing to die) because they happen to buy into it!



I wish the American People would WAKE-UP and have enough courage to recognize our politicians as planting the flag of their of their own political agenda (with accompanying self-aggrandizing rhetoric) atop a pile of corpses that were once fine American Citizens and see the ueslessness of this ridiculous prohibition..

What are your views on the reports and rumors on drugs trafficking by the CIA? What level of trueth do you think they have and how do you think the drug traffickingrelates to the War on drugs?

[Woodman]

I doubt that the CIA is involved in drug trafficking by way of policy directive, clandestine or otherwise; however, I don't think it’s unreasonable to assume that high-level personnel within the CIA are lining their own pockets through this enterprise.



This government agency is in the perfect position establish international contacts. Hell, they SPECIALIZE in organizing outlaw coalitions, and strategic alliances. And they back them up by mobilizing resistance fighters from an existing population.



When you consider the kinds of resources that it takes to be able to formulate a long-term strategy, communicate with various political & military factions (some not altogether friendly with each other), mobilize them toward a coordinated effort, and put together all of the peripheral logistical elements (food, weapons, gear, equipment, computers, transportation, medicine, etc.) necessary to make it all happen, you can easily see how this kind of capability puts you in a position to create & control a VERY LARGE SCALE international smuggling enterprise.



I think that a group (or separate groups) of individuals within the CIA use their training and access to these resources to form various alliances, both at home & abroad, to control a large segment of the international drug trade.



...As to whether there exists a secret long-term policy that amounts to a large-scale government conspiracy; I really doubt it.



Just ask yourself: If you were the guy in control of such commerce, would YOU be willing to share if you didn't have to?



I sure as F**K wouldn't!



But , for politicians, this doesn't preclude taking advantage of the situation (nor perpetuating or otherwise exploiting the issue) for the purpose of gaining political capital. In fact, I think that they would find that kind of opportunity irresistible.

[edgien]

Why are drugs illegaL??? simpLe queston but a queston with no true answer. I view it as a snowbaLL that roLLs on forever but one thing is sure they aLways wiLL be. But since I feeL like an asshoLe at the moment I`ll give an asshoLe answer.....if drugs were legaL what the heLL would Law Inforcement do? Solve reaL crimes like murder, rape, child molesting, etc.??? Investigate crimes that are trulyrelevant to the average Joe and Jane?? I mean if you was a highLy trained Police officer wouldnt you rather trample on the rights of those you serve, orfly helicoptors aLL day looking for the eviL plants of doom orspend the day searching trash bags in hope of finding a singLeseed so you can obtain a search warrant in orderto smeLL somegirL's panties......I would hate to thinkthe notion that drugs are legaL because then law inforcement would then have to find the sLime that ripped off my house instead of writing a report for insurance porposes and telling me.."sorry but there reaLLy isnt anything we can do for ya feLLa, buy a deadbolt, and do I smeLL marijuana in here?" yeah if drugs were legaLaLL thoseboys & girlsin blue and brownwould have it bad, no front~page"drug bust" news, no free "drugs" , no free "drug money".....yeah it would reaLly be rough if drugs were legaL.

[wizard warior]

well i think its just about power and greed becuase the people who control the drug buisness wether they actually realize it or not is the politicains and law agenzies because they created the whole war on drugs and all the bull shit that has come along with it. so its the politicans who satrted it and they will have to stop it if they decide to everdothe wright thing for once. its a nice thought to think that people could grow there own medicine in thier back yard and not have to pay ridiculus ammounts of money to buy drugs which have lots of nasty sideffects. so there has to be justice eventually.

[searcher]

Drugs are illegal because the government wants individuals to be productive members of society, working, with minds clear and notimpared by the use of drugs. Marijuana makes you lazy. Speed destroys your health. Your mind is clouded under the influence of opiates. How can you hope to deal with reality under the influence of halucinogens. Recreational drugs impair your judgement.


The government is concerned about you and wantswhat is best for society as a whole. The government does not want you to be hopped up on goofballs.

[markdahman]

<blockquote>Originally posted by searcher on 02 August 2004<hr>


Drugs are illegal because the government wants individuals to be productive members of society, working, with minds clear and not impared by the use of drugs. Marijuana makes you lazy. Speed destroys your health. Your mind is clouded under the influence of opiates. How can you hope to deal with reality under the influence of halucinogens. Recreational drugs impair your judgement.

The government is concerned about you and wants what is best for society as a whole. The government does not want you to be hopped up on goofballs.

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Yeah you think so eh? I would disagree wiht thast frsure! The goverment doesnt give a flying shit about our health!! They let us drink in smoke wich kills not only ourselfs but others!! How many people have died do to second hand smoke! people whodidnt even smoke have died from it!! Drunk drivers have also kill ALOT of people and the people who get killed by drunk drivers arent doing anythign wrong! But say smoking weed whose that gonna kill? Certainly not alot of people as compared to smoking and drinking! If the goverment really cared about you they wouldnt allow that! The reason is indeed greed by the goverment they only allow smoking becuz they can continously raise taxes on it and we will still pay the tax no matter how much it is! They are also trying to get more money for alcohol two! The goverment is completly f*cked!

[searcher]

The government will always say drugs are bad. If they tax tobacco and alcohol, well, that doesn't mean that the government encourages the use, it is just another way of raising money. The government does not want you to pollute your body and mindwith drugs.

[Pope]

The stuff they feed the public about how bad drugs are isinsane. I heard on the radio the other week that a new study shows that reefer madness really does exist because of the higher amounts of THC that is in marijuana today.. or something to that extent.


On a different note.. if the government really cared about our health wouldn't they make the corporations stop putting theadded chemicals in cigarettes thatmake them more addicting and more harmfull?


Istarted out smoking camels and now I'm smoking USA golds/cherokees/tucsons/monarchs etc.because the better tasting ones are too expensive. I'd hate to thinkhow bad my health is now because of the extra crap they put in those cigarettes, or is that something else the public schools brainwashed into my head?

[wizard warior]

searcher i have a thought to put to you. i bet you have never thought of alcohol and smokes as actually being 'drugs' them selves.well just because they do not tramatically change your normal state or have any majorinsights this certainly does not mean that there are not drugs, okay they are not psychoactive well i think caffine is actually check erowid i'nt sure. its all about deciet and lies every one gets brain washed form an early age wether yourealize it or not,that booze and fags are good and every single other 'drug' is bad and really nastie. yeah wright! wake up and smell the coffe. do you know that some people in africa actually belive that grass makes you more inteligent therfore itis good and acceptable, well onlyin thier country for now.

[RoboCop]

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[searcher]

Yes, alcohol and nicotine are drugs. The government tried to abolish alcohol sales during prohibition. The drug war is similar to prohibition although I do not believe that marijuana, speed, cocaine, pills, heroin, recreational drugs, LSD, mushrooms or any other controled substance comes close to being used (or abused) as much as alcohol. Alcohol causes birth defects and it is legal.


It is up to you weather you use drugs and alcohol. The government trys to control these substances as it sees fit. I personally feel that marijuana is not as harmful as alcohol and should be controled the same way alcohol is but I don't think that will ever happen.


I think of all the money the government could have made by legalizing grass the same way as alcohol. People are going to do drugs if they are available.


As I said previously, taking drug, in the governments view, is irresponsible and makes you a danger to yourself and society. If it was up to me, we'd be partying all day and all night, but, it is not up to me. Society has elected leaders and have made laws saying drugs should be illegal and be abolished. It makes society better as a whole when individuals are not allowed to use drugs.

[manda]

On a simpler note, the first answer that popped into my head after reading the question is "Because some people are fucking dumb."

[searcher]

My first thought was, drugs are illegal, just to piss everyone off.

[infamous.truth]

plain and simple answer.


drugs are illegal because the gov't makes no profit.


ghost.

[Thegreatone]

damn right, look at the tax on cigs,and boozepot will be legal when they can tax he shit outta it.

[manda]

Even if drugs were legal, can you imagine the break-ins, the possible rioting to steal these drugs from where they are sold at.. That would be interesting if stores that sold them ever had stock for very long- either getting bought up or ripped off would be my guess...

[wizard warior]

well personally i think that alcohol is far worse that grass because it makes people become deranged and violent and more so than anyone that i know who uses pot sensibly. and if drugs were legal what the hell would the psyictrists,doctors,layers,drug dealers, and judges do.