Drug info - The Great Big "First Time" LSD Thread: Q + A

Jatelka EDIT: Please be aware that this is a combined thread, and the earlier posts are from before the "No self incrimination" rule came into play

I recently obtained 2 hits of acid from a friend. I really looking forword to doing it, and had been looking for it for a long time, i guess its hard to find here in oregon, or maybe i just have bad connections. Anyway I got an MIP at a party last weekend so my parents wont really let me go anywhere. I want to save the acid for a time when i can be in a safe place with friends so I have to wait till im 18 in 2 months. If I wait will I have any problems with decomposition?


My other question is how to administer the drug. I believe its two hits of blotter, they are really small paper squares that seem to be covered in a white dust. I have heard you rub it on your tongue or arm. Tongue sounds best, but how much do i have to rub it before its completly used up?

yeah dude my first time i done that aswell, i kept in my mouth for 5 mins an then swallowed


it sucked ass, no hit at all


the second time i done it i just kept it in my mouth for half an hour suckin on it constantly and holy shit! i was trippin out my nut all night, i ended up taking more that night and it was amazing


so try that, suck on it all night if you have to, but im sure at least half an hour should make it worthwhile

[Alfa]

Perhaps, it was old.

[Bojangles]

Old...or very very dilute...the next time you get it put it under a black light, it should glow.


I always keep the blotter in my mouth practically til it falls apart.

[cheesesandwich]

how much is too much for a first timer? how often is too often? how severe are the side effects?

[<trippin]

i think it depends on the shit you get(but take about 2to3 hits if its good),and i think its best to use certain drugs in moderation(such as lsd)and it depends on how much you take and how good it is

[Bojangles]

For the most part all stuff going around now a days seems to be more dilute then ever. You said you have not been able to come across it for a long time and now you have...unless you had a really reliable source and some feedback on this particular type of acid I would expect it to be not so strong. It seems like everyone is out to rip off everyone else and it sucks b/c all have the same interest in common, we need to stick together and create pure decent shit...if we don't the quality of all drugs will suffer...anyway since it is your first time I would just take one, but if it is weak you may want to take at least two...my first time I took one hit and i was tripping face for a good 6-8 hours. I normally put it on the tongue for awhile and chew it up before i do swallow.

[DazedPerception]

Hey, I picked up some acid today, and what was given to me was 2 breathmints with the acid pretty much soaked in. I'm wondering what would be the best, most effective way to take it. Should I just chew them up, or let them disolve? Or if you have better suggestions, please post them away. Also the person who gave them to me said they werent very strong. He said she started off with 4, and ended up taking like 8 before tripping hard. Do you think being a first time user 2 hits would effect me enough ot would it be wise to invest in more? Thanks for your comments.

[Chaote]

Put em under your tongue let em dissolve then swallow would probably be the best way, how many times has your friend done it? what is your size compared to theres? drug experience? but in my opinion (wich could very well be worthless) you should take em both and just be totally open to whatever will happen and it will more than likely put you in a good place. So take em both and call from the airplane..

[zuzu99]

I don't think keeping it under the tongue will make any difference. Just swallow it and it will work just fine. The under-the-tongue method, in my experience, is commonly used with paper, and I've found it can speed up the onset. Also, if your friend took 8 to trip hard, 2 most likely won't be too much, but with acid, you never know. Starting low is always a good idea.

Swim #1 is30, smokes herb constantly for a few years, done shrooms about 8-10 times over the last 6 years, and I have also done mdma approx 13 times over the last 2 1/2 years. He has never 'freaked out' from doing any drugs, even in excess, he's got a very strong grip or whatever you might call it. In fact he is generally the one to help other people out when they start to have a bad time even though he's taken more (and has less experience than some of these people LOL)


Swim #2 has tried these tabs (he has smoked herb for last 12 years, and has been a big fan of lsd for last 9) and he said they are "the cleanest stuff thats been around here in 5-6 years, its mild but so clean its awesome"


Can someone please explain what 'clean' means he doesn't give a very good description other than bad stuff makes you really sick for days after. He said that with these he feels no ill effects at all the next day (so far he's had 9 trips on these same tabs from same lot) although he is now taking 3-4 at once (he says after so many years of doing it you need a lot more) and still no ill effects next day.


Swim #1 has a trip buddy whois experienced with lsd and will sit with him for the experience, however I'm wondering if swim #1 is finehalfway through the experience would it be safe to leave him after this point? Swim #1 is very strong mentally when it comes to drugs, andthe odd times when he hit some waves or problems doing for example mushrooms and started to lose his grip he went to the bathroom, sat and talked himself into a greatstate faster than most people piss!Its because of this I think that he might prefer to be alone for at least part of the trip. I'm wondering whatyou guys think of this also.


Thanks very much, keep up the great work this place rocks!

The only thing "clean" can mean that isn't meaningless is that it's
actually pure LSD, and not something like 5-MeO-AMT being passed off as
acid. Otherwise, LSD is LSD.



I would say if you are as experienced and level headed as you say it
should be fine for your sitter to leave once you are established in the
trip. Of course somthing could still go wrong, but you are probably
experienced enough to handle it.

[billyloner]

ok, ive had a search and read some interesting stuff, but i still have a few questions.


me and a good friend are going to try acid for the first time in a few weeks. my mum is going away for the weekend, so we choce that time because he can come over to mine and there will be no distractions or chance of getting caught. plus i have a really big garden if we need to commune with nature. we've both taken mushrooms a few times, and we know about how setting can affect a trip - we had some in a pub once and it was a nightmare til we eventually went and sat outside on a bench.


all this considered, i feel we approach drugs in the same way, and so would be ideal tripping partners. however, a mutual friend of ours, who has taken acid once or twice before but no longer does due to epilepsy, wants to 'sit' with us. in a way i can appreciate the logic to this, as she would be able to advise us if anything were to happen that confused us or whatever. but in my experience with other drugs, i find that being around other people who are not on it with me tends to make me nervous or anxious. eg if i am stoned and there is someone there who isnt, i often feel a bit nervous, and not 'free' to express myself fully, if you know what i mean. so im thinking that having a sitter would not be the best idea. can anyone comment on this from their own experience?


secondly, marijuana. im certainly not going to smoke any before i come up, i want to come up nice and clean. but how about when im up? im thinking ill probably not have any til i start coming down because i want the experience to be unaltered (i think) - would anyone agree this is a good approach? i find weed on other drugs can sometimes make them a bit unpredictable or uncontrollable.


thirdly, we will probably be taking it on a friday night, between 7pm and midnight. will the fact that we're pretty tired affect the trip in any way? like, when it gets round to 6am or something. would it be better to wait and take it saturday daytime instead?


also, a question about food. is there any recommended time should be left between eating and dropping? like, will dropping on a full stomach be more likely to induce nausea, as it is with mushrooms? i know dropping on a full stomach will probably lengthen the onset time, but is it worth waiting 4 or 5 hours before taking it so as to limit the possibility of nausea?





thanks for reading all this, i know its quite a long post but any other advice that can be offered for first time users would be greatly appreciated.

[panamapaul]

Whether it's a good idea to have a 'straight' sitter with you depends alot on that person. Many people, especially experienced trippers, can get a good contact high from you and make your experience more interesting and pleasant. 6 or 7 of us used to take acid and drive around the countryside in a van. One of our usual tripping buddies was pregnant once (wasn't trippiing) and she insisted upon driving us. Baaad idea! She took us to the mall to buy shoes! We all agreed that won't happen again.


Going without sleep beforehand intensifies the acid experience. So if this is your first time, I would not recommend it. Start with a low dosage. People can react very differently to the same dosage. What is mild to you may completely freak your friend out.


Marijuana. I don't recommend it during tripping at all. Everytime I've made the mistake of doing this it's had the effect of throwing a wet blanket on the experience. It's a waste of acid, imho. If things get too edgy, a little alcoholic beverage can take the edge off. But again, this too can bring you down.


Food. As long as you don't eat a heavy meal beforehand, I can't see any difference.


Approach acid like you would mountain-climbing. If you've never climbed before, it is good to have an experienced climber with you. Respect the mountain. It can be a great adventure, but it can be dangerous if you are careless. If you are depressed or anxious, do not take it that day. Since you are experienced with mushrooms, you should know basically what to expect. But remember that acid usually lasts much longer than shrooms. It can be exhausting if you're ready to come down and the acid is still kicking. Above all, remember the words of FDR. 'There is nothing to fear but fear itself.' If you find yourself getting panicky, tell yourself that it's only temporary and you can't fall out of the universe. Good luck.

[k4rnage]

Ok I know there's tons of first timer questions and i've gone through all of them ,and i'm very prepared to trip for my first time after extensive research. I've tripped on DMT (which was by far the most beautiful thing I've done so far), never done shrooms, and decided to try lsd as my first _popular_ psychedelic. I'm a spiritual person, I'm very happy about my life, stress free, etc, and I bought 2 hits. I'm wondering, if they're 30-100ug as the average has been stated, how should I do this? I was thinking*1 hit, and if after 1.5 hours I don't feel strong enough symptoms, to dose with another .5 hits and if another hour goes by not satisfying enough, to try the last .5? Like, how should I do this? Would it be better to just go head first with the 2 hits? I'm not that fearful of a bad trip because of my happy mindstate and reassurance that it's just a trip and I'll be fine after (Btw, does that opinion change while tripping even though on'es reassured himself so much while preparing that everything will be ok after?) Any suggestions would be nice. Thanks.Edited by: BA

[HippieD9]

That sounds like a pretty sane plan. Give it maybe 2 hours, and you've got the recipie for a good time. Have fun, and rememeber, set and setting!





Peace,


D.

[billyloner]

thanks for the reply i think we'll be avoiding the weed until we've come down, or started coming down (i dont know if itll be a gradual shift or a sudden transition).


the more i think about having a sitter the less im inclined to have one. theres only one person we know who would be remotely suitable, and she said shes only done acid a few times,a long time ago. it isnt really a reflection on her that i dont want her there, just on me and how i deal with straight people when on drugs. ive discussed it with my friend who will be doing it with me, and he agrees. or he did last time i spoke to him about it, a month back.


like the analogy to mountain climbing. we're certainly gonna be careful whatever we decide. some guy on the internet told me to take two tabs the first time, and his argument was quite convincing. but i think two may be just a little excessive...

[noeticbuzz]

Shit man, their is only one first time that you get to open doors of perception take both.


If you respect the drug and now what you are getting into you should be fine, if your just doing it to get fucked up then you could have some problems.

[jduba]

i would have to agree to take both your first time though im not so
sure that the drugs hit you harder the first time taking them its the
first time you will have experienced that mind state making it more
intense and noticable. if you are very sound in your life, settings,
and people present you should be ok. make sure to turn off phones till
you feel out the experience and try not to be somewhere that people
will be popping over that you may feel uncomfortable around these
things can induce pianic in your thought and trigger a bad trip. after
you feel out the sensation you should be able to make a reasonable
scale of what you want and dont want to be around. good luck

I've done acid once before, so I am probably not the most crediable person. Although, I am going to give you my few cents anyways.


When I tried it, about a year ago, I did it at my buddy's place. Two of us were tripping, and the other two were just chilling and drinking some beers. The fact that there were two other people there who were not on acid did not bother me, because I knew them very well, and knew that they were not going to harm me in any way. It was also nice to know that if something did happen, then we had a responsible person there to help us.


Acid is a bit different than mushrooms, because one doesn't come straight up to their peak, then slowly come down. It's more of a come up, then come a bit down, then peak again, then come down, then peak again, ect... Also, like panamapaul said, it last a very long time, and you will not just suddenly stop tripping, like on mushrooms. It elongates itself, and you probably won't feel normal until you get a good nights sleep.


I made the mistake of thinking that my trip was over when I started to come down the first time. I didn't realize that I was about to peak again. So I decided that I should smoke some weed and just relax a bit more. But when were finished smoking the dubbie, I began to peak again, and that kind of freaked me out, but was calmed down by one of my buddies.


I wouldn't recommend smoking weed until you are forsure off the drug, and also just be aware that it may be a different stone than you usually have.


When you read this post you will probably already have done the drug, but let me know how it goes.





Good Luck!

[D.U.M.B]

Hi,
I think having sitters with you is a win/lose situation. There always super handy to have around yet sometimes can be annoying to have around. As long as you trust the guy enough you should be okay, you could maybe even tell him, you'll ring him at some stage to comeover, so you can wait till your up and under control before he comes over.

With regards to smoking dope while tripping. I do it sometimes and other times I avoid till I want to sleep and I am down a good bit. My advice is try the acid without smoking and if you ever decide to do it again (acid) then maybe smoke that time. I find too, it's nicer if you haven't had a smoke in a few hours by the time you spark that baby up, you'll be wanting the joint so much it's great.

Your pretty much guarnteed a long night with the acid in your system. You might not feel tired at all for a while, wait until your really tired before attempting sleep. I have had myself in situations where I am lying in a dark room, on my own and thinking I can get sleep. Wham! Back up again of the acid and the room is going crazy, it was fun when I look back at it, but at the time it's like. "Ah reality come back to me"

With regards to the food situation, if your doing it at 7pm for example, maybe have a nice meal at lunchtime and then maybe something small like a sandwhich an hour or two before you drop. I have gotten really hungry on acid from lack of food only to have eaten too much and gotten sick everywhere, and making the trip obviously less fun.

Just have fun and be prepared. If things get a little crazy mentally at any stage, my advice, throw on a CD you like or do something else that usually calms and relaxs you and you should be fine.

Have fun and get back to us.

BTW. Plan to take some acid tomorrow night. Can't wait.

[ReBeLKnIgHt]

I have never taken a hallucinogen before and was wondering the effects of lsd/acid

Your first time, or any time, do you feel so scared, so frightened that you cant take it?

Are you not able to control your speech and/or body

Do you see things that are not there or do you see things just in a different perspective

please any answers to these questions plus any other tips

[lolomgwtfbbq]

You probably shouldn't start out with LSD as the first
hallucinogen you do. It's a very strong drug and you should be at least
a liiitttle experienced with hallucinogens before you try it.



Feeling nervous before the trip can actually cause a bad trip, so be careful with that.

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[xctico]

It's all about set and setting. Being in a comfortable environment
makes a huge difference when being under the influece. Make sure you
don't have any mayor concerns on your mind [not the best drug to escape
your pains and problems], don't take it when you're feeling depressed.

Also have a good sitter, or trip with someone who has experience and
can guide you ot of any bad trip, remember that it's all going to be
over by morning, and keep your mind on happy thoughts [just like peter
pan, you need the happy thoughts to keep on flying, otherwise you're
gonna fall]. If you can't find a sitter ot an experience tripper to
join you, then take a good friend.





LSD is a very strong drug, but it's also a very safe one, it's nearly
imposible to O.D. [you'll could take hundreths of time the minimun
dosage and still make it] and that's a good thing.



Start slow and increase your dosage slowly[so that you get to know
yourself and your trip, and learn to deal and learn from bad trips
while they are not as intense], half a blotter will do the trick for
the first time, get a good friend [someone you trust and understand] to
go with you; give him/her the other half.



You probably won't see anything that isn't there while tripping with
alice [specially not at low dosages], you'll just percieve the world
around you with new eyes, feel that things are far more beautifull,
percieve everything around you in a new intense way. Everything looks
beautifull and new, everything has a new shape, and a new meaning; you
notice things you've been ignoring before, you think thoughts you've
never dreamed of dreaming before. You discover yourself in ways deeper
than you thought possible.



I also recomend a daytrip for your first time, I personally find it
easier to stay on the nice side of alice while the sun is out. Is a
really good idea to be somewhere away from the city, like the
mountains, or the beach or the desert; so that you won't run into any
cops, your boss or something of that sort.



Oh yeah, one more thing, absolutly no driving or operating heavy machinery...



You should also know that bad trips are going to happen sooner or
later. The best thing to do is not to panic, remember that the trip is
going to be over in a few hours, and worry about it later. Remember you
are not going to die. Nor are you going to suffer any harm. and above
all things, try to regain your calm and learn to be cool about it. The
intensity of a bad trip is directly related to the dosage, so having a
bad trip on low dosages is actually a good thing [you learn to deal
with it under much easier circumstances].

Bad trips usually reflect an area of yourself that is filled with fear,
you can learn to look for the origin of that fear and learn to heal it
while on the trip.

Having a walkman or videogame, can help you distract your mind from the trip. It can be relaxing from time to time.



Hope to be of help. Enjoy your trip.

[motorhead]

Most acid these days isnt very strong. I say most, and heres my little story about first time trippin.


This was back in 98 and i was living in a city, lets call it acidville for fun, in my part of the country doin my thing. Myself at this time was an experienced tripper, having dosed many, many times before in various situations and never had a bad trip. So one day a friend visits from another town where i used to live, where i met this guy. Hesin acidville for the weekend and looking to go out and have some fun. My friend likes to drink and toke, but he has never taken acid before. He has some smoke on him so after a while of hanging out we go to our first bar to see a band from the town where he is from. Theres other people at the bar from said town and i run into an old dealer friend who happens to have some acid on him. I buy 2 hits, one for me and one for my buddy cuz he says he wants to try it and have a good time. I realize hes never done it before, and i dont want to go totally outta my skull while on the town so i figure one little hit each will be cool. So we drop. Blotter. I forget the stamp.


We chill there for a while, bout 1/2 hour then we start hoofin it for another club, a big club. On the way we smoke a coupla hooleys. Mistake. We get to this club, which is packed to the rafters with people and music so loud you have to shout at someone beside you. I had tripped in public before, in bars before, but not one this big with people jammed in like sardines. So i start peakin at this time, and man that one little hit was alot stronger than i thought. I wasnt having full blown hallucinations, but close you know. And I wouldnt say i was having a bad trip, but the situation was all wrong. I was uncomfortable, really not enjoying myself, the mix with the weed wasnt workin out at all etc etc. So i decide to leave, but then i notice that my buddy isnt with me lol! I do 3 or 4 circuits of this place till it finally sinks in to my buddy definately is not there, and that hes probably freaking the fuck out since I, the experienced one, wasnt having such afabulous time.


So I head for home. I figure hes alright, hes a big boy, been to acidville before and can find his way. I get to the rooming house where im stayin and the fucking front door is kicked in! I go in and buddy is sittin there gnawing on a donut and gives me a bullshit story about how the door was like that when he got there. lol I finally got the truth out of him that he did it. Apparently when we got seperated he did indeed freak the hell out and was running around acidville for a while all paranoid thinking the cops and shit were after him. He made it to my place and obviously wanted to get inside real bad, and since i had the key.......


I get kicked out of course. Not a real big deal, just a shitty ole rooming house, and i felt kinda responsible for buddies freak out. The moral of the story is you can take the 2 hits and have a really strong peak with no serious long term mental issues. The big thing tho is to plan a little. Go somewhere u are familiar with. Dont mix with any other drugs. And hang with some friends for the night and make sure at least one of them isnt on acid lol, just in case u decide to kick in some doors or get in a bad situation.


cheers