Closest chemical to Amphetamine ..???

[happygirlie]

<DIV>Does anyone know what would bethe closest research chemical to Amphetamine? Has anyone heard of 2,5 dimethoxyallylbenzene? Is there another name for this chemical?? I read that it the closest thing tolegalized speed. I'd appreciate any info you can give me. Thanks</DIV>

It is an intermediate chemical (it will have little to none psychoactivity), the site you are thinking of buying from will take your money and run.

[Kemikaru_Tenshu]

You could try 2 aminoindan, which is a cyclic amphetamine...It's much weaker though.


~KT

[happygirlie]

Thank you guysfor responding Well, I did some research& read many reports on how crappie "2 aminoindan" makes one feel. Soooo, I'm guessing there are no research chemicals out there that come close to anAmphetamine like high...??

[Kemikaru_Tenshu]

Nope. That's the closest thing there is, and your right--it is a pretty crappy replacement.


~KT

[Blowmonkey]

It's precursor.. Yes it's advertised as "legalized speed", but don't believe everything you see. This one is a hepatitoxin (toxic to the liver)..

[Sasha Gulag]

2,5 dimethoxy allylbenzene is an essential oil known as methyleugenol


it is the olefin precursor to DOM/STP and DOB. (DMA too, but thats not eworth mentioning really since the two compounds above are much more prevalent and much more active)


it is related to safrloe and calamus, and is metabolized (hardly) to DMA in the body, by then you've pissed most of it out though.


Calamus and this oil have enjoyed use by boxers. it is an energy booster , but more on par with kola nuts and ephedra. i would not call it an amphetamine sub.


as for 2aminoindan, its not as awful as peole put it off. just take a big dose. it seems to be more active parentherally(in a needle) than any other way. it is however, shorter acting that meth. erowid said its an RC but i havent seen it anyehre but in legit, respectable chem suppliers, some places sell it only in bulk but relatively cheap (one in belgium sells it 5$ a gram but you must buy 250g)


and that site, with the dimethoxyallylbenzene, is scam city.

[joe_aldehyde]

crap. methyleugenol is 1,2-dimethoxy-4-allylbenzene, not at all related to DOB or the likes.

[dr ACE]

phentermine is a slimming aid which is simliar in effect to amphetamine and is a more pure form compared to the analogue which is usualy avilable on the street

[William_Again]

are there any legal speed replacements, I am mainly interested in
something weaker than meth, something similar to adderall or dex? Also
anyone got any experience with speed replacements, please post them
here.

[Nadia Snow]

ephedra is still legal!


it is very similar to amphetamine


& can be available in chinese herb shops, sold as: Mah Haung for the treatment of colds/ as a brocoliator.


otherwise, i suggest you schedule a psychiatric appointment and beg for adhd medicine

[hippie_lain]

happygirlie you still there? Well no one mentioned meth as being simular to amphetamine. Also 4-tma is fun buit not nearly the same though.

[speedy_spicer]

bzp is fairly simular to whizz, there was loads of speed freaks near me using it while the season was dry, tho if ur in the us you cant have it

[Lehendakari]

What about MDPV? Reports say is pretty close to amphetamine or even better

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by Lehendakari

What about MDPV? Reports say is pretty close to amphetamine or even better

It has some of amphetamine's dopaminergic effects (boosted sex drive, focus and such) but very little of its "oomph" or kick. Definitely not an amphetamine replacement, although ISO it has charms of its own.

[tiojio]

what bout sibutramine? or methcathione?

[Psych0naut]

Not really. It's a useful substance for when one is a bit tired from a long evening the night before, but it isn't a strong stimulant.
The closest in SWIMs opinion is BZP, though it seems to have a harder crash than amphetamine, and more negative effects.

[allyourbase]

almost all weight loss medications have some sort of stimulant in them. the vast vast majority of prescription weight loss drugs on the market today contain chemicals not very far removed from amphetamine. phentermine mentioned above is 2-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine a few carbon and nitrogen placements away from N-methyl-1-phenyl-propan-2-amine which is of course, methamphetamine.

[sterling77]

Methylphenidate isn't too far removed either.

[rod]

Back in the day swim had asthema and had to use primeatine mist inhalors, then they started making pills, They were a rush

[Nacumen]

Benzedrex inhalers contain 250mg of Propylhexedrine, which is equivalent to about 50 mg of Adderall, but in SWIM's opinion, far more sociable and euphoric.

It's no RC, but it's available in most pharmacies!

[SuprSonik]

Originally Posted by Nacumen

Benzedrex inhalers contain 250mg of Propylhexedrine, which is equivalent to about 50 mg of Adderall, but in SWIM's opinion, far more sociable and euphoric.

It's no RC, but it's available in most pharmacies!

SWIM will vouch for this. The inhaler is easy to open, and inside is a piece of cotton. You can eat the cotton (it's recommend that you cut it into pieces as one whole piece will be difficult to digest) by sticking it into an empty gel capsule, or wrapping it in a tissue as it tastes nasty. SWIM also heard that you can soak the cotton in water for a while and then squeeze out any remaining moisture in the cotton, and then drink the water. SWIM hasn't tried that method, but it sounds like it would work.

SWIM sees Benzedrex inhalers in pretty much every drug store he goes to, just sitting there on the shelf.

[speedy_spicer]

we dont have that here in uk i dont know why..... anyone?

[SuprSonik]

Originally Posted by speedy_spicer

we dont have that here in uk i dont know why..... anyone?

According to the link below, it's considered a prohobited substance by the Council of Europe. SWIM's not terribly familiar with European laws, but he thinks this applies to the U.K. It is available for order by most online U.S. drug stores though, so SWIM thinks SWIY may be able to order it from a U.S. site that ships to the U.K.

Upon further inspection, it says it only applies when used in competitions. So...SWIM really has no idea why you can't find it in the U.K. and he couldn't find any U.K.-related sites that give the legal status of it.

http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/EN...l/135-2007.htm

Here's a link to a discussion of it here on Drugs-Forum. You might find some info there or at least be able to ask if anyone from your area knows if it's legal or not.

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30326