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Old 27-04-2006, 04:20
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Jehovah's Witnesses

Do you know a Jehovahs's Witness?????

Untill today, I thought Jehovahs's peeps were world wide, and I knew very little about them. I went to a web site that explains what they are and what they believe. They seem like very nice people.

Please share your Jehovah Witness Experiences here.
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I know a bunch of them, they are ok as long they stay away from my door, pushing their pamphets on me. If you ever take one, they will pester you to death.
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Old 27-04-2006, 08:36
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no offence kemi(lol): opening the door naked with a weird psycho look in your face is a good way to get rid of them. no offence to people with beliefs, but dont push that crap around my door. they actually act like doorsalesmen/women, once they have got a foot in the door, youre screwed! they used to come around a couple o´times a year, until I came up with the naked psycho trick. try it! well if you are interested in talking to them, dont! lol
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Old 27-04-2006, 08:38
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But what about their cause? They seem like very nice people, I am thinking of going to one of their meetings but I don't want to join a cult.. unless I can be the leader..
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Any religion deserves a minimum of respect, but I hate people that try to sell you their "beliefs" as another people will sell you tomato soap or a television.

This guys love to spot people that live alone and that eventually feel so bad about this that they could be interested by their shit. I live alone in my own flat and this s**kers come knock to my door and post customised letter in my mailing box. I hate this way of behaving.
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Old 27-04-2006, 08:55
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well their cause may seem good in written words, its just that the ones who used to come around my door could easily be confused with assholes selling vaccuum cleaners. I would defenitly say they are a cult.. you seem like a humble man kemistudent, wish I could be too at all times. I have to tell you though, they will do ANYTHING to get you to join. your first assignment will be: try to get that weird naked guy to sign up!
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Old 27-04-2006, 08:59
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I don't know if they really are trying to "sell" you religion. The way this guy explained it, they are doing what god wants. According to him, God said in the final days to preach his word or something like that, and thats what this man is doing. I will check out one of their meeting next week and get back to this thread with more info on what these guys are up to.
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Old 27-04-2006, 09:08
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well I am not a fan of religion, but this should be interesting...looking forward to that!
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No, they are not trying to sell you their religion. It goes far beyong trying. It is a matter of life or death. Hell or heaven. They almost must persuade you. They earn their place in heaven by it. This sect is extremely hard to get rid of. Stay away! That website is bullshit.

In the Netherlands they are very active. They go door to door and are notorious for the infamous foot between the door. Once they think the have a weak soul in range they'll prey upon, talk with & give out their books and pamphlets that person and feed that person with bullshit until they 'win their soul'.

They specialise on what they call 'weak souls' like addicts, house party/rave youth & people with problems. Dutch ravers will know their 'Naar house' (freely translated 'back to house') bus which is frequently parked outside raves at closing time. Luring in spaced out ravers with warm tea and the like only to start pulling mind tricks on them.

One sort of good thing they do is help addicts from their addiction IF they convert to their religion. This is very tempting to those who have no one, as they will get personal support from the Jehova's. The thing is that this is not out of personal helpfulness, but again because they win souls and earn their place in heaven. But none the less, the Jehova's do help those out who have nothing else. But once clean from the fucked up situation they come from they are than in another fucked up situation: the twisted rules and control of the sect.

A Jehova's witness is not allowed to do many things. No newspapers, no tv, certainly no drugs-forum lol. 'Bible sessions' many times a week, where they'll talk about what you have done since the last session and what you are going to do. They keep a book with names on who is going to heaven(guess which sect is going) and who isn't. Much of this sect is about mind control.

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Old 27-04-2006, 11:07
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Ok, you're right, they're not trying to sell you their religion, they're just trying to steal your money and make a lemming of you...

Alfa is right, they definitely try to find weak person, isolated ones. That's the reason they regularly come and knock to my door, even if I've already said that I don't want to see them anymore. They can do what they want, I don't care, except from pissing me off.

For example, the last time that they came, there was a couple constituted by a old man and a young "preppie type" girl. She began her speech by saying "don't you think that nowadays it's hard to make new friends ???". But as we say in french, it's better to be alone than in bad company.....

I really hope that the next time that they will visit me, I will be drunk, smokin' joints and naked.
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Old 27-04-2006, 11:52
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Today i got into a discussion with one.... and she called me a filthy develish jew... because i said that people should find their path themselves... they are turning radical these days.... maybe i should call uncle Bush... he knows what to do...
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A person I knew escaped from the JW's after several years. The ones that you meet are allowed - yes ALLOWED - to speak to the non-believers. Once you are in - you are banned from speaking/associating with all but other JW's. Party Hardy, boys and girls - you are no longer allowed to speak to any of your old pals.

Person I knew who escaped decided to do what he felt was right to balance his mind after that experience: He became a self-avowed fist-fucking Pagan-Witch*. Very into every occult thing he could lay his hands on. He would explain his new-found spiritual-growth by how much of his new-found boyfriend's hand had managed to pass into his anus.

Wanna copy of Watchtower?

* no offence intended to Pagan's. This critter was damaged goods from the get-go after the JW's were done with him.
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Agree with all, plus don't get in a accident, they don't allow blood transfusions either. Worked with one before, he had a card in his billfold stated that he doen't want no transfusion, even in case of life or death.
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Next time Jehova's come to SWIMs house when he has some lsd, he'll invite them in, offer them some coffee or thea and dissolve some papertrips in there cups ..

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Would acid work with such kind of people ??? In my opinion their beliesf are strongly installed in their psyche that even such powerful psychedelic will unuseful, their "Doors of Perception" been definitely closed...........
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One time they rang the door bell and woke me up. I opened the door and just stood there sleep drunk, scratching my balls as one does in the morning. (I didn't do it deliberately :P) They never reacted and just went on with their little speech, then left.
That's all.
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lol. Geez, I feel a bit worried now. They must think I am of weak mind. How they found swims lab swim will never know. Maybe they saw me from a distance stumble into the place on dissociative drug. Maybe they know more about me than I think they do.

The more I think about it, the guy was very much an extremist and thought that assignations should be allowed and sadam hussein has the right idea on how to lead his people... can you imagine having a deep convo for hours on end all tripped out!?

I mentioned this to a friend of mine and he laughed his ass off, when I asked him what was so funny he told me years and years ago when me and this friend shared an apt. with he said every sunday they would come over and have coffee with him and whatever girl he had over. He said I was always passed out after a night of psychadellz and he tried waking me numerous times to meet them. I don't remeber any of this.. He said one of my other friends smoked a bong in front of them while they preached to them.. odd shit for sure.
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If SWIM would have dreams like bees do, he would certainly get to paranoid to let these fuckers near SWIM's house.
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Am i correct in my assumption that JW's are the ones who do not believe in most medical care, and even with a court order cannot have their DNA taken by the police or anyone else? I believe i saw this on law and order, the TV show not the forum. If this is true there might be certain benefits, legally speaking, of being a JW.
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I am not sure about that IH, this man did tell me that porn was very forbidden and that pretty much killed my interest. He did mention that JW's do not obey mans law before obeying God's law. And he rambled something about killing in the name of God. Swim was pretty dissattached from his normal self when he had this convo, and while it was hit and miss as to what he was absorbing during the convo, he knows that this man was a little different and radical in his views. Intriuging none the less, and I did tell him I respected his noble drive to travel and what not to preach the word. How he affords it, I have no idea.
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last sunday - 9.00 'o clock - the doorbell rings. i pick up the phone tohear who it is.

Goodmorning - we are here to tell you to awake, awake now to god's kingdom.

i'm here to tell you i'm going back to sleep - cause that stuff doen't interest me.
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Am i correct in my assumption that JW's are the ones who do not believe in most medical care, and even with a court order cannot have their DNA taken by the police or anyone else?
The JW church prohibits use of or storage of blood/blood products. Transplantation where blood is outside the body (ie: anything involving cardiopulmonary bypass) is also prohibited (realistically any transplant apart from corneas is impossible because of the possibility that you might require a transfusion in the process). Theoretically it it is the individual witnesses decision as to whether these interventions are acceptable. In practice, community pressure (ie threat of JW equivalent of excommunication for accepting blood products) means many witnesses who would otherwise accept blood products are pressured into refusing (SWIJ has experience of this situation).

There is a very interesting movement within the JW church. They are called the "Associated Jehovah's Witnesses For Reform On Blood".
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SWIM believes its Christian Scientists who refuse medical treatment together. SWIM also once had JW's come to his door, and the following conversation ensued:
*knock knock*
"hello?"
"do you know where youre GOING in life?"
"yeah, back inside."
*door slams*
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