Drug info - How to know whether blotters reliable?

[skaterdienick]

hey all, swims monkey has come across a pretty realiable source of lsd which seems so rare around these parts these days. people that took it said they tripped balls off of 2 blotter hits. the monkey, being a very "paranoid" person likes to make sure what hes taking is in fact what it is said to be. the monkey has never tried lsd before but has done mushrooms on a number of occasions.

the monkey still has more questions for the dealer such as the length of the trip and also the monkey is going to look at these blotters today. hoping they are very thin.

[Pinkavvy]

Here's what to ask friends who have taken them...

How long did it take to come on?

How long did it last?

What did the blotter taste like? Did it have a bitter chemical taste to it?

Did you feel somewhat sedated on it or buzzy?

Here's what to look for:

Look at the edges of the blotter. Make sure it's only 1 peice of paper and not 2 glues together very well. The sandwich blotters have gotten really good using really thin rice paper glued together so well that you have to look closely.

Even if it is one peice of paper, make sure it's not too thick so that it may be holding DOx substance. (which would be fun too, but just make sure you know about it first.)

Look at the designed, is the ink smudged?



Good luck! Even if it's a DOx substance, those are fun too. It could be acid, as it is back in circulation.

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Great advice

[skaterdienick]

bitter chemical taste is bad correct? what if swims monkey takes off a piece of the blotter and tries it...what should lsd taste like? the monkey read some people say it could be a little bitter others say it tastes like nothing.

also what does the ink being smudged mean?

[Pinkavvy]

it should have absolutely not taste at all. it is has a bitter taste or a chemical taste, it's not lsd.

smudged ink means it's not a profesional blotter, but rather something somebody made at home with a printer or something and soaked it in alcohol with some substance in the alcohol, which caused the ink to smudge.

[skaterdienick]

thanks very much. swim's monkey gets to see these blotters soon so he will be able to describe it better.

[Nagognog2]

This is some alleged blotter LSD that appeared in Australia. Note the Egyptian motif:

[raven3davis]

Giid advise pink, but why are the sandwich blotters getting more thin? If SWIM remembers correctly SWIP said that the sandwich blotters are not mis represented and some come with the proper pihkal sheet, assuming it is a phenethylamine. It just seems like making them thinner would be a ploy to market it as lsd.

A bitter taste is a dead give away. Lsd blotter does not have a taste. IF it kicks in within 30 minutes then it is probably lsd. Most other chemicals that can be put on blotter take about an hour to get going and sometimes two hours to get going really strong.

Good luck. SWIM hopes you get real lsd but DOC is fun too. If you arent for sure what you are getting you should only take one hit to make sure you dont have an adverse reaction. DOC blotter would be fun, but 5-meo-amt blotter would suck. happy trippin.

[skaterdienick]

Originally Posted by raven3davis

Giid advise pink, but why are the sandwich blotters getting more thin? If SWIM remembers correctly SWIP said that the sandwich blotters are not mis represented and some come with the proper pihkal sheet, assuming it is a phenethylamine. It just seems like making them thinner would be a ploy to market it as lsd.

A bitter taste is a dead give away. Lsd blotter does not have a taste. IF it kicks in within 30 minutes then it is probably lsd. Most other chemicals that can be put on blotter take about an hour to get going and sometimes two hours to get going really strong.

Good luck. SWIM hopes you get real lsd but DOC is fun too. If you arent for sure what you are getting you should only take one hit to make sure you dont have an adverse reaction. DOC blotter would be fun, but 5-meo-amt blotter would suck. happy trippin.

The blotter is small. its thin. its not glued or anything. it looks probably less than an inch by inch and people that took it said 2 blotters made them trip balls. does this seem like the blotter is lsd because other chemicals would require a larger blotter?

[skaterdienick]

Originally Posted by raven3davis

Giid advise pink, but why are the sandwich blotters getting more thin? If SWIM remembers correctly SWIP said that the sandwich blotters are not mis represented and some come with the proper pihkal sheet, assuming it is a phenethylamine. It just seems like making them thinner would be a ploy to market it as lsd.

A bitter taste is a dead give away. Lsd blotter does not have a taste. IF it kicks in within 30 minutes then it is probably lsd. Most other chemicals that can be put on blotter take about an hour to get going and sometimes two hours to get going really strong.

Good luck. SWIM hopes you get real lsd but DOC is fun too. If you arent for sure what you are getting you should only take one hit to make sure you dont have an adverse reaction. DOC blotter would be fun, but 5-meo-amt blotter would suck. happy trippin.

swim took a piece of the blotter and sadly it is not lsd.

oh well i guess. thanks for the information needed to determine. it had such a bitter taste. not too pleased it was trying to be passed off as lsd. good thing swim didnt pay for it yet haha

[raven3davis]

Less than 1 inch by 1 inch? It should take about 4 hits to equal 1x1 inch. The blotter should be able to fit on the surface of your pinky nail.

If it is bigger then it still might be lsd, but the chances of it beinf something else are probably greater.

[skaterdienick]

Originally Posted by raven3davis

Less than 1 inch by 1 inch? It should take about 4 hits to equal 1x1 inch. The blotter should be able to fit on the surface of your pinky nail.

If it is bigger then it still might be lsd, but the chances of it beinf something else are probably greater.

swim's monkey measured it exactly and 10 hits are 2 1/4 inches length. and the width of each hit is 1cm.

[raven3davis]

Originally Posted by skaterdienick

i measured it exactly and 10 hits are 2 1/4 inches length. and the width of each hit is 1cm.

that seems to be about the standard size. It could still be a number of chemicals as members have suggested but testing it is the only way to know for sure.

[skaterdienick]

swim monkey understands. thank you for the input. now if for some reason swims dealer was an asshole and sold these chemicals such as 5-meo-amt as acid...if the monkey tries 1 blotter it should taste bitter if it is indeed one of these other chemicals besides lsd? and if it does taste bitter and such then the monkey could easily just not take more and demand the monkeys money back haha. 1 blotter of one of these other chemicals wouldnt be too dramatic would it?

is it also possible to split these small blotters in half and just try a half of one? and if that half tastes bitter then stop

[fatal]

DOx 5meoamt and doxfly would all fit on a standard blotter. so size is no factor.

[raven3davis]

You could always take a half to see if you taste anything. You are indeed correct. You can always just not take more but you can never deduct what you have already injested.

dealers want to get you high, make their money, but at the same time they dont want you going to the hospital. That looks bad on their part. There is a possiblilty that the dose of chemical on the blotter is too much to handle but most likely 1 blotter will be a light to average dose.

If you get bunk shit your dealer might not give you your money back so just buy one hit and see if it is any good. Take half of a hit to see if you taste the bitterness.

It actually would not be too bad to get DOC blotter but SWIM would hate getting 5-meo-dmt blotter. You might like DOI blotter too, but SWIM does not enjoy DOB. SWIM got ahold of some blotters that were .75mg of DOB a hit and they had a very strong taste. Any active blotter that is not lsd should have a pretty strong taste.

You could even put the blotter on your tounge and take it off if there is a taste. You might still abrorb some of the dose but if you dont leave it on too long then you should be okay.

Various chemicals are starting to show up on blotter more often it seems. Some of these chemicals feel very similar to lsd so unexperienced users might not even know the differene. You seem to be well educated so you will probably be able to tell if your blotter is LSD or not. The taste is the first sign that you have been ripped off. Out of all these chemicals lsd is the best in SWIms opinion. no other chemicals should be put on blotter and sold as acid. If your dealer rips you off then cut off contact with him because s/he is too shady to trust. peace

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definately a great improvement in post quality, keep it up

[skaterdienick]

yea swim's monkey plans to take half of the blotter to see how it tastes. hehe

[raven3davis]

Touching it with your fingers probably isn't the best idea but it wont wont destroy the hit. It probably wont even make it noticably different but you should use tweezers and scissors if you want to be safe. Just make sure your fingers arent dirty or wet or anything before touching the blotter.

[Silence_Inc]

always keep your SWISS knife in the neighberhood when cutting up. tweezers and perfect scissors at hand!

[CrookedEye]

Swim always tastes LSD, which is usually more of a feel, however, he almost always tastes a slight bitterness or metallic taste... Nothing like the intensity of an RC taste, but just becuase you taste something, that doesn't mean it's an RC.. If it kicks in within 15-60 mins chances are it's LSD.. Blotter hits are usually 1/4 inch squares, so ten would make 2.5 inches(or a sheet is 2.5"x2.5")..

[fatal]

wow so yea crooked eye youll be shocked when you find out that the DOC blotters to use an example will generally kick in in the first hour as well and would probably fool alot of people. you cannot measure lsd anymore. do some chemical testing that is about it. other wise you are at the mercy. although as was said, if you get DOC or somethingfly or DOB or something... it might honestly be better.

[CrookedEye]

Originally Posted by fatal

wow so yea crooked eye youll be shocked when you find out that the DOC blotters to use an example will generally kick in in the first hour as well and would probably fool alot of people. you cannot measure lsd anymore. do some chemical testing that is about it. other wise you are at the mercy. although as was said, if you get DOC or somethingfly or DOB or something... it might honestly be better.

Swim knows the source of the LSD he gets, and is 100% sure of what it is.. Swim also has a bit of experience with RC's, as well as an extensive history with LSD, but is trying to provide a bit of advice for those who aren't "in the know"... Sure the DOx's are very similar, until you eat 10+ hits..

[Nagognog2]

Also remember that LSD25 will glow a blue color under long-wave UV (blacklights). Whereas DOX's will not. Though if it glows it may still not be LSD, but a dye used in the paper. But if it does NOT glow at all - one can be certain it does not contain LSD25.

[fatal]

I didnt state anything about any acid that swiy may or may not have bought from this person or that. the reason i didnt is because swiys drug deals are his own business. the point i was making was that you stated that on the basis of a positive reaction in the first hour one could be pretty safe to assume that your hits or what have you is actually the real deal LSD. now the fact as i said is that that is simply not true and if you really want to find out anything about whether or not what one has is LSD one would have to do a quicky chem test. simple and straightforward. what you do by saying something like that is make people who arent "in the know" think that what you said was true and they will go and find some DOI blots and eat 30 of them because they kicked in fast and then we have another psychological cripple as a victim of ignorance.

[Pinkavvy]

CrookedEye - Fatal is right here, many of the new DOx substances available come on pretty quickly. And yes, back in the day with the STP was around (DOM) people had problems with high doses ... but you can take 10+ hits of DOC (which be the way does start coming on pretty quickly) and you will not have the same problems you had with the old DOM.

As for taste, LSD is tasteless. If you taste a bitterness, it is NOT pure LSD ... it may contain LSD but the bitterness would signify something else, even if just leftover precursers. A metalic taste may be noticed if an industrial grade solvent is used to lay the blotters, however profesional blotters are usually layed with a clean pure grain alcohol anymore and therefor leaves no metalic taste.

If there is an extreme (very noticable) bitter taste it is most likely a PEA. By the way, you refer to LSD and Research Chems as if they are differant breeds.

LSD ... MDMA... 2c-i.... DOM.... DOC ... MDE ... MDA.... 2c-B ... aMT ... TMa-2 .... etc ... these are ALL "research chemicals" meaning they are chemicals that people conduct research with. People who look at LSD and MDMA as "better" chemicals than DOC and 2c-e (for example) because those are "just research chems" need to remember that LSD was one of the original "research chems" of the research chem crowd ... as was MDMA. LoL Swip remembers back in the day when MDMA could be ordered just as easy (or easier actually now) than 2c-i can be ordered today. Just because some are legal still and some aren't, doesn't mean they are superior or whatever.

LSD, 2c-I, MDMA, AMT, 5-Meo-DIpT, MDE, 2c-e ... it's all "alphebet soup" isn't it?
lol

[raven3davis]

yea your right. Some people have started calling research chemicals "unresearched chemicals" but this name really doesnt suit this wide range of chemicals very well either. Even though lsd and MDMA are more researched that some "unresearched chemicals" they really dont know a whole bunch about how the chemical actually works.

For this reason each chemical should be looked at separately and analyzed by itself, but in this case, lsd is better than research chemicals. If you are told something is lsd, it really should be. DOC is pretty safe along with other chemicals but it is best to know what you are taking.

SWIM said if it kicks in within 30 minutes then it is probably lsd. PROBABLY is the key word here. SWIM did not mean that if it kicks in in 30 minutes you should assume it is LSD and take 10 hits. If you are not experienced enough to differentiate lsd from DOC or DOI then you should not be taking ten hits in the first place.

If it kicks in in 15-30 minutes then it is PROBABLY lsd. None of these methods are 100% accurate. A GC-MS would be required to analyze a blotter of unknown contents.

DOC feels a lot like lsd in swims opinion but if you have tried each chemical you should be able to differetiate the two.