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Old 13-03-2012, 23:28
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Temazepam

so just got back from my doc and she prescribed me something call Temazepam 30mg. I googled it nd found its a benzo for narcalepsy or people who cant stay asleep...me.

I was curoius if anyone here has been prescribed it and can give me and idea of what I'm in for...mainly if it works because i need to sleep!

PS. I was 406lbs July 2011, 226lbs march 2012(today)...woot woot!
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Old 13-03-2012, 23:38
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Re: Temazepam

Firstly congratulations for losing all that weight

Temazepam is awesome. You should get a nice level of euphoria along with a really good sedation and relaxation. 30mg should be fairly strong. First time I had it I snorted 10mg and loved it. Have had liquid temazepam a lot as well. First time is real euphoric but on subsequent days the euphoria is replaced by heavier sedative effects. Is also known as jelly legs for its wobbley effects.

So to answer your question you will get a great nights sleep but also some very nice recreational effects.
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Old 14-03-2012, 00:48
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Re: Temazepam

I'll try to forget about the euphoria since I am worried I will like them too much if you know what I mean. So I'm gonna stick to the one before bed...30mg is strong?
Hmmm...maybe because I'm a big guy...strong doesnt men dangerous right?
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Old 14-03-2012, 03:48
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Re: Temazepam

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I googled it nd found its a benzo for narcalepsy or people who cant stay asleep...
Erm, opposite ends of the spectrum there: narcolepsy is characterized by an overwhelming, disruptive tendency to become excessively sleepy and/or to fall asleep ("sleep attacks") at inappropriate times. I wouldn't think temazepam would be an excellent choice in the treatment of a narcoleptic--typically if anything of that nature is given to a narcoleptic, it's at a point in therapy where the patient already responds well to a medication to help prevent symptoms during the day time, but the patient exhibits signs that he/she is unable to achieve good quality sleep at night. The focus is thus to help improve night-time sleep quality (whereas most hypnotics, particularly GABAAergics, and definitely all of the hypnotic benzodiazepines in use, it seems, tend to promote stage 2 NREM sleep. I believe GHB has received some interest over the last few years as a potentially very good option in such cases, though). It's perhaps possible that you did read something about its use in narcoleptics and inadvertently left out some important context, or you're just so sleep-deprived, yourself, that it was a brain fart (or a hybrid of the two)--I know how that goes, so of course, no worries! Just seemed like something worth addressing because it may indeed be true that you read something which discussed use of hypnotics in treating narcolepsy.

Now perhaps take this with a grain of salt unless you've tried plenty of the other options already, which I had by the time my neurologist (and sleep disorders are her specialty) gave Temazepam a try--30mg, too. It was comfortable, but that was the only real merit I found. It took a matter of at least 1-2 hours for me to feel its effects, and still somewhere closer to 3 hours post-dose for it to actually aid me in falling asleep; compared to other medications out there, I'd personally rank it around... 4th or 5th or so of the ones I've been given? Keep in mind that's my personal ranking--some of the other medications had side effects for me that they certainly don't for others, and would've been excellent options, themselves, probably above Temazepam in my book.

It was not strong enough to help me fall asleep in any timely manner, but eventually I was able to shut my eyes and fall into a light sleep--my dog getting up in the middle of the night to drink some water (in another room, on the other side of the apartment) could wake me up, but I'd be welcomed by a very nice feeling of warmth and comfort and found it perhaps the easiest of any medication to resume sleeping in that situation. The largest issue I had was that it lasted long enough that it took less than a couple seconds after waking up for me to determine that I could not safely drive my roommate to his, or even myself to my own classes the next morning, after at least a 9ish hour sleep, and probably almost 11 hours post-dose... I stood up, took a few steps, recognized that my coordination was that of someone who has had way too much to drink, and maybe a few other downers, too, at best. My speech was slurred, too. So I apologized to my roommate that he'd have to drive himself (and therefore incur parking expenses, etc). I couldn't do much else but simply lay back down until the effects wore off enough that I no longer felt incapacitated (at least, to a degree).

With 5 refills, I went back to it from time-to-time to give it a few second chances--trying lowered dosages, etc, but I couldn't make it work adequately for me, and the most important factor (the undesirable next-morning residual effects) were not conducive to academia.

So are you in for my experience? maybe. 15-30mg isn't a ridiculously high dose, especially if you have a history of what can only be explained as idiopathic primary insomnia, however, I was already on the maximum doses of similar medications which would cause a cross-tolerance with temazepam, if not for the overwhelming evidence that many substances that with very similar mechanisms of action only seem to work well when they have pharamcokinetic profiles closer to the z-drugs, triazolam, or even alprazolam. All of these considerations probably warranted 30mg in my case... or was it 45? It's been a while... whichever is the highest dosage they make in the US and is also the FDA's maximum recommended daily dose for human consumption (and as such, many doctor's don't want to go through the paperwork to authorize higher doses--at least, here in the US, but I was not interested in that, anyway).

Everyone's different and while body weight does obviously affect the volume of distribution of the medication (in this case, at least), that could be (and probably is) just one of several reasons your doctor felt it was appropriate to start at 30mg. It does not necessarily mean it's "safe"--Simplest counterargument: what if it turns out that you're highly allergic? While that's an extreme, the problematic nature of this thinking is usually related to ignorance of the concept of things like a dose-response curve, basically when your thinking turns to something along the lines of: "I'm not sleepy, but I'm a big guy, I probably need two... or three... .or...". That's when it can quickly make the medication extremely dangerous, worsen your apparent insomnia, and cause physical dependence and cost many days of your life (and a big chunk of your paycheck/bank account/what-have-you, depending on whether or not you are currently covered by health insurance, and what exactly that health insurance would cover) to reverse the potential dangerous consequences (on the other hand, some people get away with thinking this way without running into trouble, but I wouldn't advocate taking a gamble with your health, especially if you even hope to be able to sleep like a normal person some day!).

Just stick with the the instructions given by your prescribing physician, if you develop any pressing concerns, your doctor and/or pharmacist (or ER, if they're that pressing) are really the best people you can ask (besides the ER comment: in that order, pharmacist is only in there because I know it can be very difficult to get a hold of specialists unless you're fine with scheduling an appointment somewhere from a few months to the middle of next year).

Anyway, there you go, bits of my experience, some precautions, and I'll wrap it up by explicitly reiterating that I know how awful insomnia can be (or, sometimes, it really is mind over matter, so, I'd also say I know how awful it can feel). I suggest some cognitive behavioral therapy, ideally with a therapist who specializes in sleep therapy (if you are near a university, they may have a sleep clinic--this is how I came to be treated by my neurologist, she co-runs the sleep clinic at a prestigious medical school). And of course, I wish you the best of luck in successfully treating your sleeping issues. Please keep us posted with how it's going!

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Old 14-03-2012, 04:34
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Re: Temazepam

Ah temazepam. one hell of a drug. let me tell you a story. it started with temazepam. my friend had his own prescription for sleep, much like you. He used it as prescribed for awhile, but being a psychonaut with a sense of adventure, he started taking them recreationally as well. it causes feelings of being physically heavy, clumsy, and almost the same feeling as being drunk. It also lowers inhibitions alot. anyways, it worked for his sleep untill he abused them, then he needed more then 30mg for sleep. long story short, buddy got addicted bout a year and a half ago, hes still detoxing,withdrawling and relapsing. also, my pet tried them quite a bit. that ended up with the poor budgie getting alot of lorazepam (a stronger benzodiazapine) and that budgie is also still withdrawling, and relapsing. what im saying is, benzos are addictive as hell, dont take them for too long, because abused or not, their fun but they dont usually end well....
of course some people are completely fine with them. just not anyone i know.
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Old 14-03-2012, 12:37
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Re: Temazepam

Sorry for saying Narcolepsy, lol...I meant insomnia of course.

I've tried just about ever over the counter supplement before even bringing it up to the doctor because TBH I try not to deal with doctors as much as possible.

I'm not sure if its for me. Like Staples it took over 3 hours after taking it for me to go to sleep(it did relax me which was a nice change of pace) but I still had trouble getting to sleep, and I still woke up several times in the night, but not as often. Unlike you (staples) I woke up an hour early and could not go back to sleep, didnt feel tired or have any lingering effects. Strangely I kind of expected as much, I've never had the same results from pills that other people have, my body sucks.

About the addictive thing, that kinds pisses me off. I specifically told the doctor I didn't want xanax or sleeping pills because of me being worried about becoming addicted. She told me she gave me this because it was "safer" and not as addictive as xanax and other benzo's and it was used often in elderly patients because of this...dammit. Guess I wont be trying 2 tonight to see if it helps since it seems to raise tolerance really fast, maybe I should just run headfirst into a wall and knock myself out for sleep.

Edit: was just reading up on Melatonin, does anyone have experience with combining them helping if the benzo alone didn't fully solve the problem?

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Old 14-03-2012, 22:34
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Re: Temazepam

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I've tried just about ever over the counter supplement before even bringing it up to the doctor because TBH I try not to deal with doctors as much as possible.

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About the addictive thing, that kinds pisses me off. I specifically told the doctor I didn't want xanax or sleeping pills because of me being worried about becoming addicted. She told me she gave me this because it was "safer" and not as addictive as xanax and other benzo's and it was used often in elderly patients because of this...dammit.
Presumably many of the over-the-counter solutions that didn't end up working for you are substances that cause drowsiness by antagonizing histaminergic neurotransmission and/or agonizing serotonergic neurotransmission. With that in mind, your doctor may have reasoned that it may not be worth trying the few antidepressant options (amitryptaline, nortryptaline, trazadone, mirtazepine...), which tend not to be particularly well-tolerated, anyway. Generally speaking, in the context of benzodiazepine hypnotics, the potential for causing a habit or dependence is inversely related to how long the medication acts, so indeed alprazolam (xanax) is generally considered more addictive than temazepam (may or may not be true from person to person, of course). When taken as directed, temazepam does indeed tend to be both safe and effective (my own and your experiences aside), so I don't doubt and am not surprised that your doctor would mention it's efficacy in elderly patients (for whom sleeping issues are more prevalent). The z-drugs are all fairly more well-known/well-advertised sleeping pills, and their addiction/dependence profiles, while generally thought to be at least slightly more favorable than the benzodiazepine hypnotics, are still not very well-established, and still reports come out of people doing bizarre things on those medications (calling into question prior research on the safety and tolerability). So from your doctor's point of view, you pretty much already said "no" to the medications that you'd recognize as sleeping pills (e.g., brand names Ambien, Lunesta, maybe Sonata), and you have concerns about the more potent hypnotics (pretty much the triazolobenzodiazepines). It's not very surprising that she ended up suggesting temazepam (though she should've probably mentioned sleep therapy, or at least sleep hygiene...), I don't see why it would be upsetting: from what you've said, nothing she has told you about it is patently wrong.

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Edit: was just reading up on Melatonin, does anyone have experience with combining them helping if the benzo alone didn't fully solve the problem?
Have you used melatonin alone? Is maintaining a consistent sleep phase an issue?
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Old 15-03-2012, 00:43
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Re: Temazepam

Tamazepam, my favroite benzo...hands down.

Did your doc script you for two before bed or one?

Well either or, you should get a nice sense of relaxation after fifteen minutesish. If you take 60mg and your a first timer (so two pills) it should knock you out if you go laydown in a dark room after a while, it depends on how long...sometimes I take 150 mg (DO NOT DO THIS) and still cant sleep for a while. Be mindful though, I find Tamazepam builds a tolerance like no other. Overall in my opinion its a GREAT sleep aid, one of the BEST for me personally. As well as that its also a little fun to play around with if your into that kind of buzz. I get 2 30's before bed, but I dont take it everynight as it builds tolerance. If I take an extra couple pills or whatever its a really nice buzz, specially with a good smoke. Some people have also told me its great to use after doing cocaine or other stims...I dont do drugs of course though so could tell you about that factor.

Have fun, you some nice stuff on your hands.
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Old 15-03-2012, 13:37
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Re: Temazepam

Not trying to hijack the thread, but Im basically in the same boat as the OP.. just got prescribed the 10mg tabs but doc said to take 1-3 a day depending on my tolerance (im 95kg and muscular so he was unsure)..

Anyway.. I was more worried about the addiction side of things...

If I take 'too many'.. does this dependance develop overnight... in a few day... in a week ? how does it work..

Thanks
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Old 15-03-2012, 15:27
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Re: Temazepam

I'd like to know that too Nertplor.

After taking 2 (60mg) last night I was able to get some decent sleep, although this stuff doesn't make me tired at all it just relaxes me. I still woke up several times throughout the night (alot less than usual though) but I fell back asleep quick which is a relief. I feel better today then I have in a very long time.
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Old 15-03-2012, 16:26
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Re: Temazepam

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I'd like to know that too Nertplor.

After taking 2 (60mg) last night I was able to get some decent sleep, although this stuff doesn't make me tired at all it just relaxes me.
I combined mine (against advice) with some alcohol.. and still no affect. Watched a movie while laying on the lounge.. took some more.. and after 45 mins noticed I devoured 250mg

2 Hours later still only feel the slight affects of the alcohol.. not even the 'relaxed feeling' many claim...

After googling it I read many feel Euphoric on lesser doses but I guess Im not one of them.

I just assumed being the first time ive had this drug and the first time ive had a sleeping tablet in my life.. that, well it would have more of an affect than this !
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Old 15-03-2012, 17:55
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Re: Temazepam

Are you saying you "devoured" 250mg of temazepam? Were you trying to commit suicide? Did Bad Company's "Shooting Star" teach you nothing? At 10mg pills that was almost your entire bottle if you had a 30day supply. See a doctor and tell them it does not work (if you really get no relaxation) and get something else or try something else because 250mg can't be good for you. Please remember just because you can't feel it doesn't mean it can't hurt or kill you.

I did not mention I had also taken Melatonin along with the temazepam I had also had 1 cocktail (coconut rum and OJ) hoping to make the temazepam work (it didnt work well the first night). Like I said the Temazepam DOES make me feel very relaxed mentally and physically but not "sleepy" (I was very tired just not sleepy if your an insomniac you know what I mean) the Melatonin DID give me a sleepy feel and allowed me to sleep and stay asleep longer I believe. Alone they don't work for me, the Temazepam just relaxes me, and the melatonin makes me sleepy but without the temazepam my brain wont shut off because of anxiety so I cant sleep.

What I did I cannot advise as its probably very unhealthy to do, but after so long of poor sleep I was beginning to feel psychotic. I feel so much better today its amazing.

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Old 15-03-2012, 18:35
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Re: Temazepam

I'm becoming confused by the apparent tergiversation going on in this thread now.

Both eatingleg4peanut and Nertplor have expressed concerns about addiction and/or dependence, and while there's no way of saying exactly which circumstances will cause problems for either of them, personally, it has clearly been established that such problems tend to occur when the patient takes it upon him/herself to modify (specifically, increase) their dosage. Yet neither have heeded these vague warnings, nor have they even waited for more straight-forward answers on the subject before apostatizing from their apparent concern to a transgression of the directions given by their physicians--taking it upon themselves to augment their dosage!

Which is it? Is forming a high tolerance to temazepam a concern or not? I don't mean to attack anyone's character, here, I most certainly understand what it's like to desperately want to sleep. However, this is a forum where people ask questions about the therapeutic and recreational use of substances alike; to wit, it's hard to know what advice would be best when your intentions and reasoning aren't very clear.

Presuming therapeutic intentions, I think it's important to note that, as I understand it, this is the first prescription pharmaceutical option that either of you have been given as a sleep aid! There are other options, this one doesn't have to work--I've been on several medications for sleep that had no apparent effect on me, and several others that worked but had undesirable/intolerable side-effects, I didn't change my dosage (without direction from my doctor) or stay on any of those, nor do I fully understand the behavior of doing so!

Why not contact your doctor and tell him/her that the medication isn't alleviating your symptoms? This doesn't necessarily mean you have to see the physician, you might just call, and hey, maybe your doctor will tell you to try increasing your dose, after all? or maybe your doctor will call in a different medication to your pharmacy, or something else (depending on what your doctor thinks is most appropriate)! Why else are you paying this doctor? You shouldn't have to rely on a synergistic effect from combining the medication with alcohol or other medications without at least the doctor's knowledge! Besides, drinking alcohol before bed is bad sleep hygiene and likely just going to make things worse--but don't take it from me, ask your doctors!

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At 10mg pills [250mg] was almost your entire bottle if you had a 30day supply.
Not quite; he said his doctor instructed him to take 1-3 capsules before bed as needed. A 30-day supply would thus be 90x10mg capsules (or tablets, not sure which are available or more common in Australia). Not that I disagree that 250mg was an obscene amount (it's still almost 1/9th of his month's prescription).

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(I was very tired just not sleepy if your an insomniac you know what I mean)
Hah, interesting! That's exactly how I would explain it to my ex-roommate. "I'm tired, but not sleepy."

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...the Melatonin DID give me a sleepy feel and allowed me to sleep and stay asleep longer I believe.
What dose of melatonin are you using? And when are you taking it with respect to temazepam and the time you intend to fall asleep?
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Old 15-03-2012, 19:08
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Re: Temazepam

Let me say first I am concerned about addiction, but I did alot of net searching and found 60mg is not that huge of a dose for a person my size. I also plan on not getting this prescription refilled after its gone which at 2 a night will last me only 2 week which from what I've been reading on it seems to be about as long as I would want to take it anyway. I've told my doc about this today and she's fine with it (she actually said that she wrote that on my script pad and was upset they missed putting it on the bottle...Walmart). To my shock she told ME to look into different options and bring it up to her and we can discuss it, I'm thinking of going ambien since its another family of drug and maybe it will have a better effect on me with a lower dose.

as for Melatonin, I took the Temazepam at 8pm, took the melatonin (10mg) when I went to bed (11pm) and was asleep before 12am (I know because I didn't finish watching Conan). And yes I have tried them both separately (Melatonin I had been trying before Tem) to know the combination is what did it and not one or the other.

Staples, I was, am, and will always be worried about addiction. I did not just do that without doing my homework, I'm not someone who just goes for it when it comes to drugs (at least not as an adult).

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Old 15-03-2012, 19:50
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Re: Temazepam

I'd say go for zolpidem. I have a strong fondness for temazepam, and all benzo's, but I suppose I'm obliged to admit that for the purposes of relieving insomnia they are far from ideal, largely due to tolerance. Temazepam was probably my first insomnia-benzo, and I noticed a tolerance after three night's use sufficiently monstrous to render the medication useless. Tolerance will always develop with benzo's like temazepam; I may adore them, but realize they're not much help. You don't seem to find any merit in them, Eatingleg4peanut, so that's a great start.

I know only too well this "tired but not sleepy" phenomenon, and I propose that zolpidem is probably the best solution. This is, of course, only my experience, but I suggest you give it a go. An empty stomach prior to taking zolpidem is essential, as food greatly vitiates the drug's effects. If you are genuinely tired, and if you were someone "normal" you'd be falling asleep by now (), but due to insomnia indeed you are not, I find a mere 10mgs of zolpidem is enough to push you over that particular edge within 20-35 minutes. It is clear that temazepam is not working for you; well and good. Ask your doctor about zolpidem (most common brand name is Ambien, also Stilnoct), sort out a dose, and give it a go. It has helped, is helping, and will hopefully continue to help me sleep, on a goat's nipple or on any other surface, for a long time, where others have failed.

Precautions: Zolpidem and other imidazopyridines can be addictive, and the withdrawals are not unlike benzo's such as temazepam. However, this is very rare. I've been using zolpidem for 2 years, not every night but with regularity, and have never had any dependence issues. It does not seem to be tolerance-inducive. It does cause amnesia, and during amnesic states unusual behaviour often occurs. This can be avoided, in my opinion, by a reasonable dose on an empty stomach, closely followed by lying down. In other words, don't start doing anything after your dose. Finally, if staying asleep consistently through the night is an issue, Ambien do a Controlled Release preparation that releases 2 doses, one right away and a second roughly 3 hours later, to make sure the patient doesn't wake up when inappropriate.
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Re: Temazepam

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Are you saying you "devoured" 250mg of temazepam? Were you trying to commit suicide?
I know it was a bit of an overkill, but yes 10mg*25tabs down the hatch, the sun has just risen and feel no different than when I took the first 3 at midnight with my first liqueur. The alcohol has worn off and I feel like going to a walk..

Think ill lay off em for a month or so before I go back to the doc and tell them they had nil affect...
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Old 15-03-2012, 21:38
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Re: Temazepam

You know sometimes less really is more, and taking too higher dose can cause, among other things quite severe amnesia and a hangover effect that can leave you feeling really depressed. But the main concern is your mixing alcohol with these drugs. People have been known to stop breathing after combining alcohol with far lower doses (of temazepam) than you took, so be very careful sweetheart.

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Re: Temazepam

It's NEVER a good idea to combine benzos and alkie, specially that high of dose of tamazepam. Seriously, 250mg...thats alot of tamazepam.
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Re: Temazepam

All right! I'm glad we all seem to be on the same page regarding misuse of medicaiton, etc.

Regarding mealtonin: there's a lot of confusion around its efficacy (as an exogenous supplement, that is--there's not much confusion of the role melatonin plays in regulation of sleep/wake cycles). My understanding is that when exogenous melatonin does have a hypnotic effect and truly does shorten the time until sleep onset (typically using high doses, 5mg+, effects are felt within 30-60 minutes), the patient likely has something wrong regarding endogenous melatonin production and/or M1 and M2 receptor sensitivity. For this reason, you may want to see how Ramelteon (brand name Rozerem) works for you. I have no experience with it, and I imagine reports vary as much as the reports of melatonin efficacy, but in your case it seems worth trying because of your experience with melatonin and your desire for a non-addictive solution.

Regarding zolpidem (Ambien) or any other options you may choose: Get out of the mindset that heavier = needs higher dose. It depends on the chemical properties of the medication, such as the lipophilicity. Rarely is zolpidem increased above 10mg (or 12.5mg in the controlled release formulation), and it has a very non-linear dose-response curve with no apparent therapeutic benefit beyond 30mg. Farthermore, in the few rare cases where people have developed an addiction to zolpidem and take obscene amounts (at least 100mg, typically closer to 400mg), those people take zolpidem during the day and report a stimulating effect--so please consult your doctor before modifying your dose. Yes, it is a different class of drug, but it's mechanism of action is a highly selective version of temazepam's (that's not to say it won't work, the pharmacokinetic properties make a huge difference and personally, zolpidem works a lot of the time for me).

Finally, I'd like to heavily emphasize my previous statements about talking to a therapist to make sure you have good sleep hygiene. This isn't instead of medication, but along with medication. Okay, it's useful that you were watching television so you knew what time you fell asleep, but you shouldn't be watching television or doing any other stimulating activity when (and where!) you want to fall asleep.

As always, keep us posted!
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Re: Temazepam

problem is with the TV off I'm stuck with just my mind, it wants to think about everything thats bad in my life (even on Tem it does this) with the TV on Tem lets me just focus on that and I fall asleep easier. I used to never sleep with the TV on, I used to love pitch black and very quite...now I need the distraction from my mind.
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Re: Temazepam

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problem is with the TV off I'm stuck with just my mind, it wants to think about everything thats bad in my life (even on Tem it does this) with the TV on Tem lets me just focus on that and I fall asleep easier. I used to never sleep with the TV on, I used to love pitch black and very quite...now I need the distraction from my mind.
The light from the television could be the problem with endogenous melatonin--some photosensitive cells in your retina deliver action potentials directly to the superchiasmatic nucleus, which inhibits the release (or "pulse") of melatonin. There are plenty of other solutions to needing sound to sleep, from a white-noise machines to a calm playlist.

In any case, as you describe it, insomnia is not only secondary, but it is in fact a behavioral problem which has manifested as the result of troubling cognition--all the more reason to consult a cognitive-behavioral therapist.
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Re: Temazepam

AFOAF was prescribed this the other day to aid with her ridiculous insomnia, yet only told to take 1 x 10mg pill per day. Having read this thread and others she's a little annoyed that the doc prescribed her so little, considering the doc's full knowledge of her insomnia- without going off-topic into detail it is NOT occassional: it is both persistent, and severe- and the fact that MANY other things previously prescribed, or bought OTC haven't worked.

If afoaf has tried every OTC sleep aid possible: we're talking every single one known to her so probably around 10 different ones in total, double or triple dosing when single dosing did nothing (no joy), amitriptyline: first tried 10mg p/night, then double dosed to 20mg p/night (both no joy), zopiclone: prescribed 7.5mg p/night, then double dosed to 15mg p/night (both no joy.... see a trend developing?!), she feels that the doc should have taken this all into account and thought "right, this person really does have SEVERE insomnia that is ruining her, and needs a HIGH dose of something NEW (great- let's try a benzo) to give her relief."

.........so....... prescribes just 1 x 10mg temazepam!?!?! what the hell?!

Afoaf might as well have eaten a bloody breathmint and hoped for the best.

If someone with SEVERE insomnia hasn't reacted to ALL the above, why on earth would the doc think 1 x 10mg temazeam would even have ANY effect at all, let alone be sufficient to allow a severe insomniac to actually get to sleep?! Also read in another forum thread that someone was prescribed temazepam for insomnia and "was told not to take less than 30mg for this purpose". Therefore, afoaf is feeling like a guinea pig getting the worst of all words: being prescribed NEW drugs that COULD work, if she was given the RIGHT doseage. Instead, she is ingesting these (never good if unneccesary) in such low prescribed doses that she gets NO effect, thereby 'hurting' her body for absolutely no reason.

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