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Enhance the Experience of Being Drunk?
Recently, I've become pretty bored of just getting plane old drunk. More so, I've been getting far too drunk. But anyway, I was wondering if their was anything (preferably legal, however, if not then SWIM may be interested) that would enhance the experience? I've tried Redbull and it worked pretty good, but it's generally too expensive to keep buying on a night out. I've even tried snorting caffeine pills as it's much cheaper, but that really didn't work at all. Is there anything out there that I could take, that would go along with alcohol to make it better?
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alcohol+??
I like alcohol when clubbing. In fact I don't think I would enjoy clubbing if I wasn't drunk evrytime I do it.
I discovered alcohol late compared to most people and the first times the euphoria it provoked was great. This period last about 4 moths. After that, it still does a lot, but it lacks that euphoria and that great socialising disinhinbiting effect. Like I said in other posts about 2 years ago I was on treatment for social anxiety and was on paxil for 3 moths. This period was incredible. Alcohol + paxil provided the most desinhinbiting effect I had ever experienced, even greater than first alcohol times. Anyway I'm trying to find a drug that, in combination to alcohol gives an euphoric and disinhibiting effect similar to that I had when on paxil. I read somewhere that adderal + alcohol was a good combo. I've tried amphetamines before with little succes. What do you think is the best drug in combination with alcohol?? |
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Personally speaking, SWIM likes mixing alcohol with marijuana or downers but this isn't for everyone. You have to be careful with dosage and it's probably the most anti-social way of drinking really.
SWIM has combined alcohol with many drugs but normally alcohol becomes second fiddle once he's on something else. |
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i wouldn't combine marijuana with alcohol in a social setting, i think it would produce more of an inhibiting than disinhibiting effect. i dont really know anything that combines well with booze except for cigarettes. maybe ditch the drink and try coke or xtc? if thats the road u wanna go down...
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SWIM would recomend alcohol and a benzo for an uninhibited euphoria that mixes well with alcohol. You just have to be careful with the dosages of each because they are both downers, like natureboyliam said. But for what your looking for SWIM thinks that is your best bet.
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Oh excuse me i completely forgot this was about clubbing not just sitting at home drinking. I wouldnt recomend going out anywhere on alcohol and benzos, it really can make you do some things you will regret if your not careful and in a good environment. And of course if you do combine the two you must be very careful with the doses. SWIM has taken 20+ mg of xanax alone but while drinking he only needs ~2mg and maybe 4 or 5 drinks. So if you do feel you can control yourself and go out like this just be careful.
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benzos are kinda a dead end road atleast for swim after one night with a benzo high it takes up to a month b4 he can get the effect back and with much higher dosage(ex 20+mg xanax) swim would recommend Adderall like was mentioned. It takes away from you drtunk feeling a bit but has you buzzing around like a social butterfly. Id recommend start with 60mg addy and move up if needed or desired. and always stay safe when mixing any drugs start slow cause you can always build up but cant build down.
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Swim likes weed and he is regular smoker but it always has an inhibiting effect in Swim.
Adderall is not prescribed in swim's country so it's almost impossible for him to get some, he tried amphetamines and several kinds of speed but they only diminished alcohol effects and didn't have a good socialising effect. He's never tried benzos maybe he will soon but he is scared of excessive drowsyness. He has some alprazolam he was once prescribed but never took. It is retard formula. Anyway what do you think about phenibut? Anyone tried it with alcohol? And what about a fast acting ssri? Or something like amineptine or nardil? |
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Prescription opiates and alcohol
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Swim had some kratom and alcohol last night. It definately contributes to euphoria (like the opiates + alcohol idea) and disinhibition. Swim usually finds that alcohol alone makes swim too drowsy to enjoy it so she usually mixes with coffee. However, kratom is also somewhat of a stimulant (a depressant too at certain doses) so it helps keep swim's energy level up while drinking.
Perhaps some sort of nootropic would help? Piracetam is supposed to increase effects of alcohol, but let it be noted: "Piracetam is said to increases the effects of alcohol and amphetamines. No other drug interactions have been noted. It is recommended that alcohol be avoided as one of the reported effects of Piracetam is increased flow of blood to the brain which would increase damage and intoxication." I've been on piracetam before, but didn't drink during that time period so I can't say how it interacts. But, piracetam alone increases concentration, alertness, memory, etc. and also seems to give (at least with me) a bit of a mood lift. |
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it was amitryptaline (TCA), if she had taken them for three weeks then she has certainly not made me aware of this. she was convinced that drinking with them significantly enhanced her experiences. i very much doubt that TCA's are very different from SSRI's in regard to the length of time it takes to hit. However, an ex of mine said that prozac made her dizzy and light-headed the first few times she had it (admittedly she has a track record of lying lol) . is there any way that a large dose could have sum sort of effect or should i assume that these experiences were placebo?
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here are some personal favorites of mine to mix wit alc
alc + weed = classic, very chill relaxed good for chillin wit friends alc + adderall (amphetamine) = good for long night of partying alc + opiates = I like but not good for a long night out since it gets kinda strong and can leave u too messed up to be in a large social environment alc + benzo = good but u wont remember a thing (i like a few drinks and 2mg xanax bar) |
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SWIJ would advise caution re alcohol + opiates and alcohol + benzos: Mixing 2 depressants is NOT recommended
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swim had a great time last night involving alc along with other drugs and though maybe this would do it for u
swim began the night with 20mg addy and weed with 3 shots (swim is on ssri so it hits swim harder) then maybe 3 hours later took about 8 shots with 20mg of addy more, and a few bong hits. swim felt very social from the addy and chill from the weed along with the great drunkiness one expects from alcohol. the night was a balance of keeping swimself alert and hyped with the alc without getting too speedy, along with using the weed to keep swim chill, very fun |
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Swim has never mixed ephedrine with alcohol, but she often mixes it with weed so that she still has energy while stoned. It's a good combo because it makes swim feel like actually getting up and accomplishing things instead of sitting around being the stereotypical slacker/stoner. It may be worth trying with alcohol. Swim usually just buys a box of primatene mist tablets which have 12.5 mg of ephedrine per caplet (dosage two) and a bit of guaifenesin (which means don't overdo it or you can get sick). They're pretty cheap too.
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Alcohol is also boring for Swis. Swis has tried many drugs in combination with alcohol and they only diminished the effects of alcohol. Swis has tried coke, MDMA, weed, herbal XTC, amphetamines.
However swis found sceletium tortuosum a good alcohol enhancer, but it's mild and redosing or increasing the dose doesn't do much, in fact, it can make you sick. Swis also thinks picamilon taken before drinking enhances the experience but it's still mild and short lived. Swis would recommend phenibut, a legal chemical that is supposed to act on GABA system. There are a few reports that claim phenibut is a good alcohol enhancer. When swis was on ssri's he enjoyed a lot alcohol. He misses those nights
Last edited by Lehendakari; 20-04-2006 at 17:07. |
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Thanks for the reply. I've checked out Phenibut and it seems you can purchase it as a supplement from various places. What kind of dosages are reccomended for recreational use? Assuming the lab rat was 150 lbs.
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According to reports I've read the proper dose is 1.5-2.5 grams on an empty stomach 2 hours prior drinking.
Remeber phenibut has a very long life and tolerance develops quickly so I would use it just once or twice a month. I've also seen reports of people saying phenibut feels wonderful the day after taking it, if you take it on an empty stomach just before going to bed. It's also potentiated by L-theanine. |
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Gin and Beer.
Anyone ever tried a mixture of GIN and BEER..it sure makes you act up and atain a level...but really makes you wanna or throw up at the long run..but it does exactly what is supposed to do..If you really want some grass that can do some additional work..hit me up...Not so serious about that though..
But try the gin and beer method..it just might work. |
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I'd recommend the no booze method. That's the one where you're bored, you don't just resort to getting drunk because you can't think of anything to do. There's always something far more entertaining -- such as going to a bar after everyone is already wasted and messing with their heads. This is also much cheaper
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I agree with that. Any time you do a drug too often its going to becoming boring. Don't do it as offten, then when you do drink it wont be so "normal"
However SWIMS favorite thing to do is smoke weed. Sure it may diminish the drunk feeling a tad, but its replaced with other effects to make a very nice combo in SWIMS opinion. |
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SWIM knows what you're talking about. Just this weekend, he announced to his wife that it was official, alcohol had no good effect on him anymore. Basically, he's either not really drunk at all (not like when he was younger when you would drink a case of beer and do something fun and stupid), or too drunk that he can't really do anything except go home and sleep. There's no real "in-between" anymore. As a younger sprat, alcohol was a big part of his life, now it's just something to waste money on.
SWIM has tried to offset his alcohol consumption with different chems over the years. About 5 years ago, it was nothing to spend $2-300 a night, 3-4 nights a week at the bar. Obviously, this couldn't have continued for very long, so he started dropping E. This wasn't really a good long term plan either, but much cheaper. SWIM now uses psychs like shrooms or different research chems alone or in small groups occasionally (once every 1-2 months) and finds his desire to get drunk has gone down, and he can have a better time with either fewer drinks, or no drinks at all. Can't really explain it too well, but he finds that with the different insights into himself and life in general, he doesn't need to be smashed to loosen up and have a good time. Works for him, may not work for you. |
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Re: Enhance the experience of being drunk?
Coro Root... good luck finding any info about it though. It is a very powerful alcohol enhancer.
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