sassafras

[big-lester]

I've noticed that there is nearly no info floating around here about sassafras MDMA, so i thought i'll just post swim's experience with it.

a while ago, swim acquired some sassafras MDMA, it was light brown- gold colored, and it smelled like the candy store. seriously.

swim and 2 of his favorite lab rats ingested about 130 mg. it took a little longer to come up than with normal MDMA, it took about 40 min - 1 hour.
then they started to notice the effects. normally with MDMA, when it kicks in, you're peaking right away, but with the sassafras it was gradually building up, like with mushrooms for example, or acid. the effects were VERY subtle. it wan't even like MDMA. it felt completely natural, you know with normal MDMA or XTC pills you can feel the shit flowing through your veins, you can feel it's something that doesn't belong there, something toxic. but the sassafras MDMA didn't have any of this, it was just some natural, subtle and clean drug.
swim and the rats were pretty calm compared to how they normally act on E, normally they're blabbering ALL THE TIME, talking really loud and fast, eyes big as footballs, extreme jaw tension. the sassafras had nearly no jaw tensiom, their eyes weren't wide open, everyone was talking pretty much like a normal person, and waiting for the other to finish his sentence (something COMPLETELY NEW on E). it was almost like it was more sedating than stimulating, in a good way though.

when the comedown started, it was no problem at all, the comedown was really gradual and smooth, SWIM and his rats got to sleep fairly easily, and had no hangover the next day.

in conclusion: sassafras is something magic, it COMPLETELY different than any other E. it isn't E, it's somehting else. SWIM wouldn't do this everytime he wants to do E, cuz it does feel different than say normal MDMA, cuz normal MDMA makes you a lot more fucked up, and the MDMA-fucked upness can be REALLY REALLY nice at times. but if you go out for example, i think sassafras would be better than normal MDMA, cuz you look a LOT more normal on sassafras, and you're not acting like a complete idiot all the time.

so if anyone can get ahold of some sassafras MDMA, DO IT! cuz i've heard you can't get it anywhere.
you're welcome to make comments about the report, or if you have an experience with sassafras MDMA, please share it with us.

bigL

[Nagognog2]

This sounds like MDA. Not MDMA. Have your rat get a test-kit.

[no0b]

Originally Posted by big-lester

I've noticed that there is nearly no info floating around here about sassafras MDMA

i'd say more than half of the available mdma is made from sassafras/safrole. i don't think ur looking hard enuf
you're talking alot like sassafras is what got u fucked up. sassafras alone is absolutely useless. safrole is only a mere precursor to an mdma synthesis, not something to do recreationally

that's like saying.. OMG- Ephedr1ne MethAmphe+amine roX! it smelt liek clarit0n tablettes!
- go figure, safrole smells like licorice

[no0b]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

This sounds like MDA. Not MDMA. Have your rat get a test-kit.

how do u figure?
- he just got his cherry popped on some decent mdma, that's all

[Nagognog2]

The effects he described sound more in line with MDA is how. He should get his rat a test-kit to find out for (relatively) certain.

[no0b]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

The effects he described sound more in line with MDA is how. He should get his rat a test-kit to find out for (relatively) certain.

that explains absolutely nothing.
mda is alot more visual, speedier, alot less emphatic, and has a much harder comedown.
nothing like what he described

[raven3davis]

It sounds like either MDMA or MDA. Have you tried pure MDMA before? MDA is a lot different than MDMA.

You said it seemed more sedating than stimulation thought which makes it seem like you got ahold of MDMA. The general consensus is that MDA is the more speedier of the two. From the description you gave it seems like you probably got ahold of MDMA (molly) but it really could be either or even something else.

Listen to Nagognog2 and get a tester. It is the only way to determine the contents of a pill or powder, but even testers are not 100%. If SWIM remembers correctly a tester cannot differentiate between MDMA and MDEA.

[big-lester]

SWIM has done normal pure mdma a LOT of times before, and this wasn't it, it smelled REALLY sweet and strong, and the color was completely different from swims usual molly. the source is VERY reliable, and no dealer, just a friend, a friend who wouldn;t lie FOR SURE.
it definitely wasn't MDA, it wasn't speedy like mda, not visual like mda, not as toxic-feeling like mda.

[no0b]

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sassafras is used to make root-bear flavored tea
sassafras yields a concentrated form of safrole
safrole smell like licorice
safrole is used as a precursor in the very begining of an mdma synthesis
all mdma powder crystal shards pills tabs rolls SHOULD smell like licorice
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see the ladder effect?
i don't know why ur usual molly doesn't smell like candy, must be cut to shit
- color has absolutey nothing to do with the strength., just the amount of impurities in the subject.
i've seen white, yellow, beige, brown, pink, black. no difference in strength

Reputation Comments on this post:

Flaming on this and another thread. Screw him.

[Nagognog2]

noOb: You've become Johnny Pissoff on this, and another, thread. Warning will issue. Now chill. You are not contributing anything of value.

[The Dr]

all mdma powder crystal shards pills tabs rolls SHOULD smell like licorice

pure 100% mdma salt smells of nothing. even suff that has not been recrystalised, but just well washed with acetone does not smell like licorice. in swims experiance. and swim KNOWS it was not cut.

however the smell is so penatrating and lingering that just the residue of 1 drop of a wacker oxidation mix, on paper (methyl mans write up funnily enough), sill smells quite strong 4 months later.

[Nagognog2]

It does sound like it has free safrole in it, or free base MDx. In either event, it was not properly made. Safrole is considered a carcinogen and is no longer used to impart flavors to things like sarspirrila and root beer. I'd avoid this if I were a rat.

[old hippie 56]

Didn't know it could cause cancer, been making tea out the dried roots for years. The woods behind the house is full of sassafras trees.

[no0b]

the fda also has an extremely heavy regulation on any purchases made through bulk orders with any type of safrole-containing plants and/or oils, whether it be for making tea, perfume, or nail-polish remover, beware of dea conspiracy

[off topic]
i didn't know it was carcinogenic either., here is some cancer info for u to read up on if you'd like.. interesting

Originally Posted by bc cancer agency

Sassafras Tea


The role of your cancer health professional is to create an environment of openness and trust, and to help in making informed decisions about alternative/complementary therapies. Collaboration will improve the safe integration of all therapies during your experience with cancer. The "Summary" and "Professional Evaluation / Critique" sections of this Unconventional manual are cited directly from the medical literature, and are intended to help in the objective evaluation of alternative/complementary therapies.
Summary
"An overriding consideration in this entire matter of the safety and efficacy of sassafras is that the plant material has no really significant medical or therapeutic utility. Sassafras oil, in common with large number of volatile oils, does possess some mild counterirritant properties on external application, but beyond these, none of the claims of its supporters has been documented in the modern medical literature. Despite its pleasant flavor and its folkloric reputation as a useful tonic, prudent people will avoid this drug because of its potentially harmful qualities." (Tyler)
"Sassafras should not be used internally or externally." (Newall)
Description / Source / Components
This tea is made from the young root of sassafras, Sassafras abdidum. The active ingredient is safrole. (Stich)
"It contains up to 9 percent of a volatile oil, which, in turn, consists of about 80 percent safrole." (Tyler)
Safrole is also a component of many essential oils, such as star anise oil, micranthum oil and camphor oil. (Homburger)
History
"Sassafras was always popular in folk medicine, being regarded by rural people as a spring tonic or purifier of the blood." (Haines)
"The root bark was being used to treat fevers by the natives of Florida prior to 1512 and formed one of the earliest exports of the New World. It still enjoys a considerable reputation as a stimulant, and as treatment for rheumatism, skin disease, syphilis, typhus, dropsy (fluid accumulation), and so on." (Tyler)
Sassafras is used for medicinal purposes as well as for a beverage. Aromatic oil derived from the sassafras root bark was formerly much utilized in flavoring confections, soft drinks, and pharmaceutical products. Such use was banned by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in 1960 after safrole was found to be hepatocarcinogenic (liver-cancer-causing) in the rat. (Stich)
"A new use has emerged in the past decade. Clandestine producers of 'designer drugs' have used safrole and isosafrole, derived from the oil of sassafras root bark, as a precursor in the manufacture of methylenedioxymethamphetamine (known as MDMA, ecstasy, XTC, and Adam). This illicit drug gained notoriety in the early 1990's, but it is not a new compound. The synthesis of MDMA from safrole was first described in a German patent published in 1912." (Tyler)
Toxicity / Risks
"As a result of research conducted in the early 1960's, safrole was recognized as a carcinogenic agent in rats and mice." (Tyler)
"Several naturally occurring aromatic ethers, of which safrole [1-allyl-3,4-(methylenedioxy)-benzene] is one example, are hepatocarcinogens." (Bolton)
"Both benign and malignant tumors have developed in laboratory animals, depending on the dose of safrole administered." (Newall)
Safrole is a chemical carcinogen, which can induce DNA modification. (Tan)
"No one really knows just how harmful it is to human beings, but it has been estimated that one cup of strong sassafras tea could contain as much as 200 mg [milligrams] of safrole, more than four times the minimal amount believed hazardous to humans if consumed on a regular basis." (Tyler)
"In concentrations of 1% of the diet, safrole is toxic, producing weight loss, testicular atrophy, and bone marrow depletion. It also induces hepatomas (liver cancer)." (Homburger)
"It is estimated that a few drops of sassafras oil are sufficient to kill a toddler and as little as one teaspoonful has proved fatal in an adult. Symptoms of poisoning are described as vomiting, stupor, and collapse. High doses may cause spasms followed by paralysis. Large amount of the oil are reported to be psychoactive with the hallucinogenic effects lasting for several days." (Newall)
"Recent studies have shown that even safrole-free sassafras produced tumors in two-thirds of the animals treated with it. Apparently, other constituents in addition to safrole are responsible for part of the root bark's carcinogenic activity." (Tyler)
A 72-year-old woman drank sassafras tea up to 10 cups a day and developed diaphoresis and hot flashes. When the woman "stopped drinking the tea, the diaphoresis and hot flashes promptly resolved." (Haines)
"We have shown in preliminary pharmacological experiments that certain aqueous and alcoholic extracts prepared from sassafras root bark are capable of eliciting a variety of pharmacological responses in mice, including ataxia, ptosis, hypersensitivity to touch, central nervous system depression and hypothermia. Safrole is also a potent inhibitor of certain liver microsomal hydroxylating systems, a property that could lead to toxicity problems if drugs metabolized by these enzymes are administered together with sassafras teas. ... To ensure safe and effective drug therapy, it would seem appropriate for physicians to evaluate their patients in terms of extemporaneous herb tea usage and to discourage these practices whenever feasible." (Segelman)
"Carcinogenicity of safrole following transplacental exposure of the mouse fetus and exposure of the neonatal mouse via the mother's milk was investigated in mice by intragastric administration of the agent to pregnant and lactating females. ... Renal epithelial tumors were observed in 7% of female offspring exposed to safrole in utero; none of the other experimental and control animals developed these tumors. Only male offspring nursed during the preweaning period by mothers treated with safrole developed hepatocellular tumors. In contrast, direct administration of safrole, beginning at the time of weaning and continuing for the duration of the experiment, led to a significantly high incidence of hepatocellular tumors in females, but not in males. Eighty-six percent of the liver tumors observed in females were hepatocellular carcinomas with a high rate of pulmonary metastasis. The data suggest that safrole or its metabolites came into contact with fetuses by crossing the placenta and with infants through its excretion in milk to exert the perinatal carcinogenicity." (Vesselinovitch)