4-AcO-DiPT trip reports

[Triple7]

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Dosage: 12 mg in one glass juice
Route: Orally
Duration: 2 hours

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all his reactions looked fun to me.I tried this last night.. at 22:00 i
took a 10mg pill.. after 30 minutes, I didn't feel much. At the
same time while I took this I was drinking tequila. 22:30 I took my
second pill.. and my friend took his first pill. He has used grass and
opiates, but not the uppers before. Also he used benzos etc.. at 23:00
my friend took his second pill. I noticed that my friend was a little
stoned, while he said he wasn't and I was laughing my ass off. This
felt kind of a laugh pill.. He denied he was speeded, but slammed the
windows, moved his aftershave bottle so fast that he spillt some on the
floor.



Later he complained that he isn't getting drunk... and I bursted into
laugh.. it appeared he didn't know much. Earlier the day he spoke lot
about drugs and wanted to teach things to me. In the club, we drank
water.. at about midnight, we took two more pills each.. and at 1
o'clock he started beeing stupid. He wasn't able to sit still, I told
him to relax, and he was asking me all the time what I gave him.
Suddenly he wants to go home.



Myself, I experienced a weak trip.. very weak. And the reports people
have on erowid.. I have no idea how they got that... myself I
experienced something that was closer to +1 than +2.



Ok, at 1 o'clock, my friend said let's go home. I was visiting him and
had no idea where he lives and I do not know how to coordinate in that
city. Further, I had no money on me, no CC, limited cash and batteries
on my phone. Then I also got expensive must-have electronic equipment
at his home. He told me he will wait for me outside, I came after a
minute, and he had left. Then he refused to answer when I called him.
Finally he called me back and cared only about when effects are going
to stop, I told him we better meet, because I am lost, I can calm him
down and I need my electronic stuff. He said he is at the central
station.. so I asked people the way there. When I got there, I didn't
see him waiting.. so I sat on a bench waiting for him. Suddenly there
are two busses full of cops and a car running around me. They run
around and seem not to find what they look for. I just hoped they won't
notice that I am stoned, and further I did not shut my eyes, in case
they would think I am sleeping there and come to wake me up... at about
1 o'clock when the cops had dissapeared, I walked away and got
compleetly lost in the city. This friend of mine was really an asshole,
refusing to answer the phone.



While walking lost in the city, I met a few guys who were mugging drunk
people at night.. I had 12 pills, and tried to sell them a few,
because I really needed money for my phone, a ticket home and possibly
my electronics back.. they didn't like to change.



Went to some gasoline station asking for directions, when a cabdriver
offered to help me for free. We figured out about where my friend could
live and I got there. Then walking around in the blocks, I found a guy
that could open doors for me. Finally I got to my friends appartment. I
first thought I smash his face in, but thought I better keep the cool.
He can be that fuckhead as he likes, I know myself to stay away from
him.. no more friendship with this guy.



He told me he got angry and stressful from the aces, not happy and that
he felt time had stopped. Also he was paranoid and wanted to goto the
hospital, but didn't.



I would compare this drug to a low dose of amphetamine... or to the
after effects of mdma but without the jaw clenching. Nor did my friend
have any clenches or blinung. In the morning, I went home and took
another pill.. and found out that I would not be able to use this for
sex. I have never tried 5-meo-dipt. 4-aco-dipt is said to be better for
sex than 5-meo-dipt, in my case.. no use.



Maybe this drug is for the first times and sensitive people? Now I'll
go sleep.. feeling so tired. If I missed something, the I'll write
about it later.

[Alfa]

Did your friend smoke cannabis with it?

[Triple7]

To make things clear.. there is a typo.. blinung should be blinking.. I
am compleetly new to that city and I had no clue of my friends
address.. to get lost there had nothing to do with drugs or alcohol.



My belief this drug could be something for first timers.. my friend
isn't first timer, but he was first timer on 'uppers'.. and still
behaved like an asshole to me. Nor did he or I experience the same as
those in erowid (except as those who said it is mild)... but our trip
was very imilar.. except that he wasn't laughing.



(The most magic part with the chemical was pherhaps the incredible luck
I had when I was on it, and after when it weared off.. explaining them
would be off topic to this forum.. but I found money when I had none..
etc etc..)



If this drug gets sched.. so should alcohol, benzos and SSRI.. this is quite mild IMHO.



I have understood that 4-AcO-DiPT converts to 4-HO-DiPT in the body..
and lasts longer. If I quote something from Tihkal, then I think
following experience is closest to the one I had.. notice how
everything is explained to be mild.



(with 20 mg, orally) "It has a bitter taste. Early signs noted at
15-20 minutes which include mild sensation of central stimulation,
'loosening' of muscles in arms, legs, and neck. Mild distortion of
objects and slight color effects, typically 'rainbow halos' around
objects. Plateau reached in 20 minutes. Mild elation with relatively
simple intellectual musings about the nature of the compound and how
one could describe the nature of the state of mind and body caused by
this material. 2.0 hours, mild effects. 2.5 hours, nearly normal. Mild
but entirely pleasant experience with rather abrupt termination of
effects. Could be a good candidate for psychotherapy sessions,
certainly good for 'novice' introduction to hallucinogens."



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[Triple7]

Originally Posted by Alfa

Did your friend smoke cannabis with it?

I just noticed you asked when I put that 'correction' there.



No.. we were on 4-5 small shots of tequila, salt, lemon and 40mg aces.
My guess it is months he last time touched weed.. but he always liked
to talk about it.. my guess is that he cannot handle the stress... no
uppers for him.

[Triple7]

Hmm... he also took sleeping pills when he got home, and couldn't fall
asleep. Then he told me he almost picked fight with the taxidriver for
driving him for an hour, when it in reality took 5 minutes..



He knew and I warned him about the effects. Still he behaved like this.



There is a chemical I would like to use.. adrafinil... I migt test
small doses of these aces (5-10mg) to use for the same purpose as
adrafinil.



In a swedish site, they explain this one is better than 5-meo-dipt when
it comes to sex.. I will give samples to couples and let them evaluate.
Would be nice to know if someone I know could get intense orgasms as
written in other forums.



BTW.. I think this mild chem might get on sched in Sweden on 1t
Feb... that is a request from WTO. The WTO in finland sent some letter
to the Swedish one (or was it vice versa).. and some Swede authoroties
are sending letters to the baltic states to sched this.

[Triple7]

Few hours ago I tried this again... first I thought I'll try to smoke
it.. all I got was a black burnt pill.. I cracked it and it was black
inside aswell.. threw it away.



Then swim took 2 pills (10mg) and put them into a glass of water... they didn't
disolve.. so he cut them with a knife in water.. a site that sell these
pills.. sell the powder at higher price than the pills.. pherhaps it
has to do that they don't disolve well??



It is 19:15 right now.. when I write this.. about sex, I feel it would be nice with a blow job .
It feels like someone is itching the top of hole in my gland with a
feather. No girl around.. wanking could be interesting, but this isn't
my home... better show respect even if I knew I had the chance
when I was alone here. Now I am not alone, and nobody knows about
me...



I took this pill about 16:00.. these more or less dissolved 20mg are as
good as the 40mg when I took them the first time. Here is nobody with
sad faces or swearing.. good good.. I feel I am on a ephedrine hcl
"kick" or on steroid "kick".. there is lot of energy and I could do
lots of excerisize.. My eyes are not dilated.. so I could go in the
public without people noticing anything as long as I do not reveal that
I am speeded.



There is no floatiness like with the real X.. and I am smoother than on
X.. if I would dance, it would be smoother movements, while on X I
would be more violent.. no blinking.. no clenching.. no need to breath
as the way I am on X.. when I close my eyes.. there are very weak
visuals, but still something there.. lightblue light.. sometimes I see
something like a heart pulse one can see on hospital equpiment, I don't
know the name of that device in english (EKG)..



I wonder what could happen if I tried to disolve 2 pills in alcohol..
or in water overmight.. anyone who can tell me if there theoretically
should be some reactions?? Can I disolve it in hot water??



When taking 20mg and I am getting this positive experience, I am OK
with it... before I was let down by my 20mg experience.. maybe I
shouldn't drink this with tequila.. or then I should grind the pills an
disolve them for best experience.



Now it is 19:54 and I have been runnig back and forth, eating a bit..
squezzing pimples.. writing this.. speaking in the phone.. I think it
has come down a quite a bit... feeling pure and clean.. still this bj
would be nice.. hehehe..



Will try this again with 10mg, and see if I can excerisize well.. study.. and I will try one day to mix 10mg aces with 20mg amt.

[Triple7]

Swim had some.. first started with 20mg.. then took another 10mg at +2h
and another 10mg at +2.5h.. total 40mg. Add five bottles of beers. This
time swim had yellow close eyed visuals.. not dilated.. but everyone
around swim knew immediately the adventrues of swim.. swim liked to
laugh a lot at people.. there was some metallic tone in the close
eyes.. swim said this is nice to the genitals.. kind of slighty
receiving oral, but there isn't any oral.. speedy and shakey with
jitters.. no hangover. Pleasant +2 exp.. never felt something from the
alcohol.

[radiometer]

SWIM and his partner tried this recently at 20mg and 18mg respectively.
Neither one was very impressed.

As for negative effects: she had two bouts of nausea, but she
often does with any psychedelics, and he experienced some obvious
muscle tremors, mostly like 'restless-leg-syndrome', which were not
bothersome. On that note, as some other trip reports have
mentioned, some of the feelings in the body during the trip were
somewhat MDMA-like, in a sort-of stimulant manner. But there lacked
the mental euphoria which generally makes that aspect of MDMA
enjoyable. There was no jaw tension whatsoever.

The comeup was quite different from most tryptamines, much more like
coming up on a stimulant (perhaps a bit like an LSD onset). The
experience was clearly psychedelic, but not in any powerful and/or
definable way, as with mushrooms or miprocin, the other related
tryptamines they have tried. Both of those drugs, when taken at lower
doses, hint at where they can go, and promise great rewards should one
choose to take the voyage. Even "lightweight" phenethylamines such as
2C-C can help one achieve great depth and insight at modest/medium
doses, but they saw no such potential from iprocetyl.

As the saying goes, there was no THERE there. SWIMs partner's
summation was that this drug was trying to be too many things at one
time and thus falling short at all of them.

As for recreation, sex was not very interesting and this material was
found to be pretty anorgasmic. Music was generally OK but not enhanced
by nor enhancing to the trip. Movies were interesting, and the small
amount of visual distortions lent themselves to watching good
photography direction.

They sent the remainder of the material back to the storage service. She
does not intent to try it again, and he will have to be in a a highly curious
mood to do so. It wasn't a bad trip, but it didn't really turn them on or
hint at better times later. They said it might be interesting at a small
party as it's stimulating enough that one need not feel couch-locked, nor
is one too highly distanced from normal reality.Edited by: radiometer

[prospero]

I'd say go to a higher dose. I tried 15mg a few years ago, and had a pleasant but very uninspiring experience, much like yours above. I somehow didn't feel that going higher would give me anything more, so Ididn't bother again for ages, before finally deciding I wouldgive it another go seeing asI had some of it left lying around. This timeI did 25mg and had whatI can only describe as one of the most beautiful trips of my life. It wasvery mushroom-like but had a degree ofbeauty (including the most amazing synaesthesia), euphoria, and eroticismthat I've never experienced on any other drug. It was, quite simply, wonderful. 4-ACO-DIPT is now definitely one of my favourite chems. There seems to bea major shift in effect at some point between the 15mg and 25mg levels so I'd say definitely give it another go at a higher level before shelving it for good.Edited by: prospero

[dogcow]

There is something odd about the dosage for this chemical. I took 15mgs and 20mgs and had a kind of neutral experience both times. However 30mgs was an INCREDIBLY STRONG experience. I think 35-40mgs would not be too overwhelming but venturing much higher than that seems like a ticket to complete insanity.


Great chemical IMHO!





-dc