chasin the dragon with vapouriser (heroin question)

[upthebracket]

I've never done H and I don't intend to, curiosity has brought me here. chasing the dragon always seemed a senseless waste to me, when you could just use a pipe, until i found out that a direct flame destroys H, so it's a necessesity, but then i thought, wouldn't any kind of vapouriser work? or one like this:

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i'm assuming there's a flaw with using one of these that i don't know about, otherwise a lot of people have wasted a lot of money, can anyone prove me wrong? or do a lot of people just overlook this?

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[no0b]

that looks like a good pipe to smoke dmt
reason why u wouldn't use it is because after u removed the flame the glass would keep burning, wasting even more h
- foil cools instantly
.. anyhow, that link might get removed, just post the picture-

i've got a couple of techniques, try this one
- i'll start off with the most basic

reason why u use foil is because it heats extremely fast, and cools extremely fast. that way, when you've inhaled as much as u can from chasing the smoke, the foil doesn't keep burning after you've removed the flame, like i said it cools instantly

okay so you've got ur foil that measures about 5x5 inches right?- now, take ur piece of foil, and fold it straight down the center to make a channel for ur h to flow on, and well, on both ends of the 'channel', fold both ends so that it looks a little something like this

|_________\/_________|

that way, none of the h falls off ur foil when tipping it
(the '\/' in the model above will be the crease, or channel, that u folded earlier)
-- Note -- the crease, or channel, is not any more than a crease.. just a small indented fold to let ur h 'flow'

alright so now u need to make ur smoking device..
your smoking device doesn't have to be anything but a mere piece, of foil
-- using foil to smoke with is not only cheap and convenient, but just when u think you're out of gear, guess what... all u got to do is unwrap the foil and you've got a couple of unvaporized hits!
--------- OR ----------
just get the cardboard toilet-paper roll, this apparatus allows more smoke to be caught

now take a match-head sized bump, and place it in the cener of ur foil, so that it falls onto the center of your crease, or channel... for beginers, u might want to use one of those stand-up candles to help u heat it up.. for more advanced users, you can obviously use your own lighter

not placing the flame directly under the foil, but about an inch or so will do, allowing for vaporization.. place the flame where the diesel is, as it melts, guide it with your 'channel' by tipping it from side to side... u want to try and do your best to let the least amount of smoke escape.. this is where u .. chase the dragon .. try to take the flame away about a second or two when u feel your lungs start to expand to it's full capacity.. repeat until desired effect is attained

you're gonna want to save the home-made aluminum pipe and use it over and over, until u feel is necessary, and unwravel the aluminum pipe and smoke whatever is left vaporized inside



that's how u smoke diesel

[no0b]

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[Alicia]

That sort of thing would be more ideal for crack, weed as its demonstrated. or some other herbs. It would be good on dmt as well. or even better hash oil.. sorry this all off topic but those of things you'd use that for

[upthebracket]

thanks no0b, i had this idea in my head that smokin off foil meant you lost most of your shit, they way you explain it, it sounds much better, eitherway, right now it's pretty redundant cause i can't get my hands on any H at all

[allyourbase]

smoking heroin is NOT chasing the dragon. diacetyl morphine is such a boring weak drug compared to its parent compound. chasing the dragon is smoking opium, REAL opium, from the plant, either latex or full spectrum, either way. the high is way different than oral opium use, it feels more akin to taking some vicoden or such. and the reason they call it chasing the dragon is because youll never get as high as the first pellet of the day gets you. if you have a vaporizer set it at 240 for opium, and remember the "ash" or waste or whatever you want to call it becomes hard as a rock.

[no0b]

^
who knew?
i bet if you asked anyone, 9 out of 10 people would say chasing the dragon was.. chasing the smoke the heroin makes as it slivers down the foil

[Alicia]

Swim though it was called that chasing the dragon as the heroin when it melts dances like a chinese new year dragon only instead its this gooie substance that dances like that. Opium is in a glass of its own.

[zero]

No, he's right. Chasing the Dragon was a term originally referring to smoking opium. The reference was of mideval dragon hunters, chasing the mythological dragon... they never caught it. The analogy being that when smoking opium you never catch that same high you did the first time you smoked. However, the reference has also come to include the smoking of heroin over the decades.