Smoking - crack / freebase cocaine ash

[klaatu]

Dr I appreciate the info, I really do. SWIM might even pluck up the courage to try it!

Originally Posted by The Dr

anyway you came here a newbee and your now going to be instructing her on ways of rocking up! what a bad influence we are....

Laughs. I don't think SWIM will try giving her any advice. When she first showed him what to do he immediately put his scientific head on and started asking questions and (like an idiot) making suggestions. She just looked at SWIM and said "that's the way to do it" which shut him up pretty quickly.

SWIM needs to partake an a lot more coke and read a LOT more before thinking he will be in a position to offer advice. Like the saying goes "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing".

As for me - currently I have the (drug) IQ of a five year old

Klaatu

[bcStoner420]

It would be ideal if SWIY could find a hookup of at least fairly pure coke. He could then clean/purify it and get almost all the cutters out of it. Then take your purified coke and use the baking soda method to base it. It's much safer than ammonia though it will leave some baking soda behind which really isn't that big of a deal. This would probably end up being expensive but it will make much higher quality product.

As for purifying your coke, do a search the methods are out there. Although if your concerned about making crack with ammonia this could be a problem too. In which case you will just have to trust your coke is decent.

[klaatu]

Well bc I will take your advice to him and see if he's up for it. Although your comment "This would probably end up being expensive" (assuming you mean even more expensive than crack) will probably cause heart failure.

Originally Posted by bcStoner420

As for purifying your coke, do a search the methods are out there. Although if your concerned about making crack with ammonia this could be a problem too.

Yes, he is a coward at heart. But thanks for the intruiging advice which will surely lead him even further into some sort of addiction hell even quicker than using regular crack

Klaatu

[motorhead]

he-he, going on 48hrs now. Must be having a good time Swim wishes he were swik.

[klaatu]

Originally Posted by motorhead

he-he, going on 48hrs now. Must be having a good time

Apologies for not posting sooner Mr Motor, but seeing as the young lady in question lives around 200 miles away I only get to see her when I work from a different office. The only net access I have there is through the company gateway and it's monitored. I don't think it's a good career move to visit sites like drugs-forum while I'm at work !!

I'm back home now. How did it go? Well, very intruiging with good and bad bits.

First thing ws my plans got all screwed up because of someone else, so I had to meet her at around 8am, give her a wad of cash so she could get the coke and we arranged to meet that night at the hotel.

The hotel was very nice. She was late. Very late. But that's women for you.

I had given her the money to buy 9 rocks - I think that's a lot - and I'd said we would smoke five of them that night then she could keep a couple to take home and I would take the other two. However, we managed to smoke all of them. See? I have such self-control! Actually it was much nicer stuff than she had bought for me before, so I think it's understandable )

Then we went to buy some more. This time just two, but from a different source and much bigger rocks than before. This time we split one between us and I took the remaining one home.

Oh yes, and based on "advice" in other parts of the forum I tried the rebreathing into bag thing. Definitely an improvement! Helps extract every last molecule of cocaine )

But there was somethng else which though which was very troubling.

I'd suspected she was a heroin user and I found out that night that was very definitely seriously hooked and I saw her shooting up with the heroin she had bought along for herself. Now I've no axe to grind over what drugs people choose to use - I'm not that much of a hypocrite so I had no problem with her doing that.

I've never seen anyone injecting before and I had always imagined it was pretty quick, efficient and "surgical". But the reality was quite different. Watching her struggle to find a vein and digging around in her arm with the needle trying to find one was heart-breaking really. She is very slim and she obviously lack a decent network of veins anymore. It sure explains why I have never seen her wear a short-sleeved top before. Her arm was a mass of bruises, scabs and lumps (

It was not a pretty sight, and what made it worse was that she wasn't doing it to get high. She was only doing it to stop herself from feeling crap. I know this is probably all common knowledge among the drug-forum community but it was news to me. And very, very sad to see.

I don't want to sound like I'm moralising, I'm not. But it sure as hell convinced me it's a Bad Thing.

After she had finished she was back to her usual self. And more inclined to do very rude things too. So there was some benefit I suppose.

The evening / night finished at around 6am and I took her back home before going to work. Then worked a full day before driving home. I sure as hell slept well that night!

Oh, and I have my very first rock of coke sitting here. Not sure quite what to do about that yet....

I see I've written a mini-novel !

Klaatu

[motorhead]

Good to hear swim had a good time. Dont forget swim. So it was good stuff, right on. Into needles is she? Ya that could be bad news. Hep C and HIV, its out there for sure. Got to be careful seeing as how you dont know this girl that well. Any hoo welcome to the forum.

[klaatu]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Good to hear swim had a good time. Dont forget swim.

It would be handy to be able to edit the posts as soon as the D'oh moment hits. I mean I'd hate anyone to thnk I was writing about me....

Originally Posted by motorhead

So it was good stuff, right on.

Yup. It's a bugger that buying the stuff is such a lottery though.

Originally Posted by motorhead

Into needles is she? Ya that could be bad news. Hep C and HIV, its out there for sure. Got to be careful seeing as how you dont know this girl that well.

Definitely.

Originally Posted by motorhead

Any hoo welcome to the forum.

Thanks )

Klaatu.

[deji]

Swim would rarely mess with rocks. But somedays he would pick up a rock for fun. Would just take a pop can, put a few small holes, a carb, ash, and place the whole rock and take a couple huge blasts. Swim only really enjoyed the first blast really and made sure it was going to be huge.

Swim has lots of friends that love the rock, they use little glass tubes bought from the gas station with a fake flower inside and charboy. It takes them forever to smoke a rock, and when its done, they keep smoking on the charboy to get any last part off. They must love it.

[klaatu]

Swim has asked me if, after smoking Crack on a layer of cigarette ash, there is anything useful left in the ash. If so, how do you separate the ask from the useful stuff?

Thanks.

Klaatu

[fletch]

umm, i\when smoking rock you use ash so the rock melts essentially onto the ash then you continue to inhale so as the vap continues into your lungs, you keep inhaling until your high basically. and if you pack the right size hits there wont be stuff left over on the ash, best way for some is to just pack another hit on top of the ash and then discard

[klaatu]

Hi Fletch.

I realise the Rock melts into the ash, but I think Swim wants to know if there remains some unmelted Rock in the ash afterwards.

Klaatu

[fletch]

um well not really, it simply depends on how big of a hit you pack and how hard you hit it, if ya pack a .25 and swim takes a weak hit, in that i mean not a long long haul then there will probably be some stuff left on the ash but i wouldnt recomend hitting it as it will taste aweful, but its a hit nonetheless.

[klaatu]

Originally Posted by fletch

it will taste aweful, but its a hit nonetheless.

Swim has told me that re-smoking the "contaminated" ash does taste pretty dire, but it does have the same effect as X% of a hit. I can't remember him ever complaining that the taste was so bad it would stop him smoking it though.

Klaatu

[epiphanyx]

Is there anything left in the ash?

Wishful thinking, perhaps?

SWIM has resmoked the "ash" many times and has come to the conclusion that ash is ash and not "cocaine residue".

If there are more rocks to be smoked, clean that pipe out and light up another one; if not, c'est la vie - session's done.

[klaatu]

Originally Posted by epiphanyx

Wishful thinking, perhaps?

Yes, definitely

Klaatu

[fletch]

exactly, ash is ash unless you dont clear the hit, one thing to remember though is only a feind trys to keep getting hits when the rocks have dissipated. self respect and self control.

[beentheredonethatagain]

Originally Posted by fletch

exactly, ash is ash unless you dont clear the hit, one thing to remember though is only a feind trys to keep getting hits when the rocks have dissipated. self respect and self control.

agreed . the only thing left in the ash is burnt cash.

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"burnt cash" - very wise

[Shagmelon]

Originally Posted by epiphanyx

If there are more rocks to be smoked, clean that pipe out and light up another one; if not, c'est la vie - session's done.

Are you saying the pipe should be re-ashed everytime before adding more rock?

[klaatu]

Originally Posted by Shagmelon

Are you saying the pipe should be re-ashed everytime before adding more rock?

Swim re-ashes completely about every three hits (and it's usaully four hits to one rock as he grinds the rocks into powder before adding them to his pipe) But Swim always tops up the ash if he hasn't re-ashed comletely.

Klaatu

[Ant-Man]

The amount of ash in the pipe, the size of the bowl, the size of the hits, whether or not your power hitting or if your using a "Bic" or a "Blow torch". SWIM could actually show you pictures of ash which is/is not effective (as far as residue). With lots of time, practice and product, SWIM says you can develope one hell of a technique using ash.
Practice makes perfect....right????!!!!!

[Divalici0us]

Why would you smoke the ash? im not a junky :P

[Alicia]

Originally Posted by Divalici0us

Why would you smoke the ash? im not a junky :P

The ash would be re-smoked as any melted crack rock, will be not all the time be in with the ash

What has beening a junky got to do with anything, I suppose you also think all junkies are these people on streets,mugging every five minutes for a fix, That stereo typical thing does exist, but doesn't apply to everyone

[Divalici0us]

Originally Posted by Alicia

The ash would be re-smoked as any melted crack rock, will be not all the time be in with the ash

What has beening a junky got to do with anything, I suppose you also think all junkies are these people on streets,mugging every five minutes for a fix, That stereo typical thing does exist, but doesn't apply to everyone

Oh okay my mistake
swim has never done it

[Shagmelon]

The ash seems to stick together and stay in a form around where the hit was placed. Swim doesn't know what to do to get another so he saves the ash in a pill bottle for a rainy day.

[klaatu]

Originally Posted by Shagmelon

so he saves the ash in a pill bottle for a rainy day.

Just waiting for someone to figure a method of refining out the partly-used crack, eh?

Klaatu