4-ho-met - Drugs Forum
Drugs-Forum  
News Groups Blog Forum Chat Video Audio Images Documents Wiki Home
Go Back   Drugs Forum > CHEMICAL & (SEMI-) SYNTHETIC DRUGS > Research Chemicals > Tryptamines
Register Tags Mark Forums Read

Notices

Tryptamines Tryptamines and indoles.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-04-2006, 11:20
Abrad's Avatar
Abrad Abrad is nu online
Platinum Member & Advisor
 
Join Date: 10-12-2005
Location: Republic of Ireland
Posts: 2,223
Abrad must think in IUPACAbrad must think in IUPACAbrad must think in IUPACAbrad must think in IUPACAbrad must think in IUPACAbrad must think in IUPACAbrad must think in IUPACAbrad must think in IUPACAbrad must think in IUPACAbrad must think in IUPACAbrad must think in IUPAC
Points: 9,225, Level: 14 Points: 9,225, Level: 14 Points: 9,225, Level: 14
Activity: 51% Activity: 51% Activity: 51%
4-ho-met

Please post info about 4-HO-MET here.

Can anyone add information about:
  • names / synonyms
  • molecule
  • dose
  • duration
  • side effects
  • legal status
  • have there been any reported incidents with this compound?
  • since when has this research chemical been available?
  • stability of the molecule / compound
Experiences with 4-HO-MET should be posted here: Experiences - 4-HO-MET experiences

Names: N-ethyl-4-hydroxy-N-methyltryptamine, 4-HO-MET,
IUPAC: 3-[2-(ethylmethylamino)ethyl]-4-indolol

These documents about 4-HO-MET are in the file archive
__________________________________________________ _________
Has anyone any experience with this chemical, SWIM is having trouble finding much info on it outside of TIHKAL.

Last edited by Alfa; 27-10-2007 at 08:09.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-04-2006, 16:00
GDxCAT's Avatar
GDxCAT GDxCAT is offline
Titanium Member
 
Join Date: 19-01-2005
Location: terrapin station
Posts: 731
GDxCAT is a captain of the SWIM team.GDxCAT is a captain of the SWIM team.GDxCAT is a captain of the SWIM team.
Points: 1,124, Level: 5 Points: 1,124, Level: 5 Points: 1,124, Level: 5
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
That is because it has not been made widely available yet so not many people have tried it out.
Be the guinea pig and let us know what u think, your information will be greatly appreciated.
Also just a few threads below this one you will find this thread (http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16490) which is asking almost the same thing.

judging by tihkal it should be similar to miprocin and psilocin .
Start your dosage off at the lower end of the spectrum and work your way up.

be safe, be smart and take it sleazy.

peace
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 27-10-2007, 06:45
trptamene's Avatar
trptamene has no status.
RC God
 
Join Date: 14-07-2005
Location: hellmerica
Age: 23
Posts: 2,197
Blog Entries: 1
trptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPAC
Points: 15,913, Level: 18 Points: 15,913, Level: 18 Points: 15,913, Level: 18
Activity: 4% Activity: 4% Activity: 4%
4-ho-met

Please post info about 4-HO-MET here.

Can anyone add information about:
  • names / synonyms
  • molecule
  • dose
  • duration
  • side effects
  • legal status
  • have there been any reported incidents with this compound?
  • since when has this research chemical been available?
  • stability of the molecule / compound
Experiences with 4-HO-MET should be posted here: Experiences - 4-HO-MET experiences

Names: N-ethyl-4-hydroxy-N-methyltryptamine, 4-HO-MET,
IUPAC: 3-[2-(ethylmethylamino)ethyl]-4-indolol

These documents about 4-HO-MET are in the file archive
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 4homet.JPG (12.6 KB, 31 views)

Last edited by trptamene; 27-10-2007 at 06:51.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 30-10-2007, 17:16
trptamene's Avatar
trptamene has no status.
RC God
 
Join Date: 14-07-2005
Location: hellmerica
Age: 23
Posts: 2,197
Blog Entries: 1
trptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPACtrptamene must think in IUPAC
Points: 15,913, Level: 18 Points: 15,913, Level: 18 Points: 15,913, Level: 18
Activity: 4% Activity: 4% Activity: 4%
Re: 4-ho-met

21. 4-HO-MET
TRYPTAMINE, N-ETHYL-4-HYDROXY-N-METHYL; 4-INDOLOL, 3-[2-(ETHYLMETHYLAMINO)ETHYL]; N-ETHYL-4-HYDROXY-N-METHYLTRYPTAMINE; 3-[2-(ETHYLMETHYLAMINO)ETHYL]-4-INDOLOL

SYNTHESIS : A solution of 0.50 g 4-acetoxyindole (see under 4-HO-DET for its preparation) in 5 mL Et2O was stirred and cooled to 0 °C with protection from atmospheric moisture. There was then added 0.5 mL oxalyl chloride. The reaction mixture was stirred for an additional 30 min, and the yellow crystalline solid was removed by filtration and dissolved in 10 mL of anhydrous THF. This was treated with a 40% solution of methylethyl amine in anhydrous Et2O, dropwise, until the pH was >10. The solvents were removed under vacuum and the residue dissolved in 200 mL CHCl3. This was washed first with 50 mL 0.1 N HCl and then with 50 mL of saturated aqueous NaCl. After drying with anhydrous MgSO4 and filtration, the solvent was removed under vacuum. The residue was recrystallized from Et2O to give 0.60 g (yield 73%) of 4-acetoxyindol-3-yl-N-ethyl-N-methylglyoxylamide with a mp 179-180 °C. Anal: C,H,N.

To 10 mL of a stirred solution of LAH (1 M in THF under N2), there was added dropwise a solution of 0.57 4-acetoxyindol-3-yl-N-ethyl-N-methylglyoxylamide in 10 mL anhydrous THF. When the addition was complete, the reaction mixture was brought to a reflux for 15 min. After cooling to 40 °C, sufficient water was added to decompose both the reaction complex and the excess hydride. After filtration through Celite (under an N2 atmosphere), the solvent was removed under vacuum, and the solid residue recrystallized from EtOAc/hexane to provide 0.18 g (41%) N-ethyl-4-hydroxy-N-methylindole (4-HO-MET) with a mp 118-119 °C. Anal: C,H,N.

DOSAGE : 10 - 20 mg, orally

DURATION : 4 - 6 hrs

QUALITATIVE COMMENTS : (with 20 mg, orally) "Qualitatively a lot like psilocin. I started within the first half-hour, and at the max, I felt the same alteration of color and form, and times, sound was felt. As with psilocin, the experience was wave-like, with an alteration of effects between near-normal perception at one minute, only to be swept up in a swirl of altered concept the next minute.

EXTENSIONS AND COMMENTARY : First, an apology for just a single entry in the comments section. This, and several other of these substituted hydroxy and methoxy tryptamines, had had earlier evaluations, but the notes are not at hand and cannot be used. Much will have to come back from memory, and there must be an appropriate fuzziness allowed for the concluded generalization as to dose and duration. With this particular compound, some of the original observations suggested that it was more potent than psilocin, certainly more dramatic. But at the bottom line, I doubt that this ethyl homologue, or the isopropyl homologue 4-HO-DIPT for that matter, could be distinguished from the methyl counterpart psilocin in any blind clinical study.

What's to choose between them? From the view-point of synthesis, the cost and availability of the secondary amine will certainly be a factor. Both methylethyl amine and methylisopropylamine are available, but are quite expensive. Dimethylamine, on the other hand, is dirt cheap but it is a recognized precursor to DMT and thus is difficult to find. In any events, the dimethyl compound is widely available in the mycological arena, and I suspect it would be simplest to stay with nature.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tekst van het drugsdebat 6-3-08; verbod growshops, paddo's, wietbeurs, BZP, etc... Alfa Politiek (Nieuws) 0 07-03-2008 11:58
Afkicken in Nederland. Alfa Diverse drugs 9 21-02-2007 09:23
DE ACHTERDEUR VAN DE COFFEESHOP Alfa Wiet & Hash 7 10-07-2006 21:00
Het Benevelde Brein: over LSD Alfa LSD 0 25-11-2005 17:05


Sitelinks: Site Functions:

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:24.


Copyright: Substance Information Network 2003 - 2009, All rights reserved