5-meo-AET

[snapper]

Just noticed a report about 5meo-AET on Erowid. Never knew it had been made, but the report was very positive. This is not what SWIM would expect considering 5meoAMT has been less than ideal for most who have tried it. The dosage range reported for 5meo-AET is MUCH higher than that of 5meoAMT, and the duration is shorter.
Anyone have any experiences with this one ?

Snapper

[treefingers49]

Well, AET has a much higher dosage, shorter duration and MUCH different effects than AMT, so the fact that the same is true for the related 5-MeO compounds is no surprise to me.

[fatal]

Swim can not be positive but believes that this material was available on a very limited basis from few (maybe one) supplier/s in '03... supposed to be pretty good too... probably very hard if not impossible to acquire now a days without a custom synthesis order. thusly information will likely be very limited.

[treefingers49]

I remember it being available for a short time in late '03 or early '04, right before the big busts.

[snapper]

SWIM was not paying attention at that time. The one report sounded really interesting.
I guess SWIM'll just have to wait for it to maybe reappear..

Snapper

[blackwolf]

Swim remembers it being around only thru people in the know, but it was far to expensive because it was only the first test run of the material, and with a dosage over 150mg, swim didnt bother as he was much more into some other new goodies at the time.
Unfortunatly the big bust came, and that vendor I believed simply sold his stock and called it quits. So I never got the chance to try it

[Rush]

does exist this tryptamine?

i ask because AET is probably the most interesting tryptamine for swim ...but unfortunately is illegal worldwide (and still very uncommon)!

also probably the '5MEO' will lower the dosage like 5-Meo-AMT does in comparison with AMT(having the about the same effects)...

i didn't found it in shuglin's thikal...but maybe is called with another name...
thanks to everybody who will try to help me!

[Rush]

ah, I just found an old thread talking about it:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17474

so, I apologize for this useless thread...

yeah, i know..."use that fu**ing search engine!!".. ok!

however, if somebody was interested like me in 5-meo-AET, what i found is that is very rare(thus expansive) was only avaible in the '03-'04 season, right before the DEA big busts,has higher dosage than 5meo-amt, there is only one report in erowid, and the report is very positive.

it seems a good one...i wonder why everybody forgot it!

[Rush]

here is some additional info found in thikal:

[...]Other homologues of a-ET have been synthesized. The a-propylhomologue (a-PT) has been made from tryptophan[...]Rather than lengthening the chain on the alpha-position, some studies have exploited the known potency enhancement that comes from putting a methoxyl group on the 5-position of the indole. This compound, 5-MeO-a-ET, has been made from... [...] . As might have been predicted, it was more potent than a-ET by a factor of two with 70 milligrams orally producing a trippy feeling that lasted several hours accompanied with an increased heart beat and difficulty in sleeping. There were no psychedelic effects as such, and no unpleasant side effects. Another compound that has been closely associated with a-ET is a carboline[...]

it is an abstract from AET entry in thikal...I didn't post the recipes...
I think it is very interesting this chemical...
maybe 5-meo-aet is already scheduled, but i doubt it...
its very strange that is so rare...it has a great qualities.

[fatal]

likely the reason this is not a major area of interest is the fact that that the extension of the alpha position chain seems to be a dead end for psychedelic activity. thusly the reason it has been nothing more than a novel chemical is because it is merely that, a novelty of the tryptamine family.

[Rush]

thats funny! swim prefers alpha methylated tryptamines!

[fatal]

maybe so but when you extend the chain in this case it shows about a 20-30x drop in potency with a major lessening of psychedelic activity. and AET is barely psychedelic whatsoever more of a tryptamine ecstasy thing. whereas AMT is highly psychedelic. obviously this is not proven but it stands to reason that further lengthening this chain will likely lead to a further distancing from psychedelic activity and probable decrease in potency. feel free to disagree with me.

[Rush]

decrasing in potency?
but 5-Meo-AMT is one of the most potent substances, needing 500micrograms to get effects...

i think that swim prefers Alpha tryptamines because their action is amphetamine-like

[Nagognog2]

Back on topic please.

I believe SWIF is refering to lengthening the methyl and/or ethyl into propyls and butyls etc. As such the conjecture being that even a 5-MeO placed on alpha-Butyltryptamine wouldn't help much. That it would require a shovel to prepare a reasonable dosage. If such even exists.

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