Combinations - Diphenhydramine and Adderall

[ShadyMilkman]

Okay, i have some Pain Reliever PM (Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride 25mg, Acetaminophen 500mg) and about 5 or 10 mgs of adderrall. I heard that dosages of Diphenhydramine will make you trip, and yes I am aware of acetaminophen damaging the liver. However, would there be a safe dosage of this to take? I weight 175lbs and have a decent tolerance to acetaminophen, I've taken a lot of it before. Also, would the adderrall help me stay awake to enjoy the trip? Thanks.

[sands of time]

What do you mean by "a decent tolerance to acetaminophen"?

[ShadyMilkman]

I've taken large dosages of acetaminophen before with no adverse effects. For my weight I believe 8000mg it the toxicity level, I know I've taken around 7000mg before and have been fine.

[LSA_CVX]

dude...acetaminophen is not something to be messed with...be VERY careful...

[The Kid]

I wouldn't recommend taking the adderall with the diphenhdramine- didn't anyone ever tell you that speedballing is harmful to the heart? At least wait a few hours between taking them. I recently bought these over the counter sleeping aids that are pure diphenhydramine HCL, no acetaminophen. I just took 50 mg. (the suggested dosage on the box). It's been a few minutes and I don't feel anything yet, but I'm used to taking ambiens, prescription sleeping aids, so I'll probably have to take more to get the desired effect. I'll post my experience tomorrow. By the way, I weigh about 110 lbs., and I can trip off of one 10 mg.ambien. so anyone know how many mg. of diphenhydramine equal 10 mg. of ambien?

[PooSniper]

"SWIM" was wondering if anything bad will happen
when mixing diphenhydramine HCI and adderall.
You see SWIM was having trouble sleeping when
comming down and wants to know if using sleeping
pills will make anything bad happen.

[blindpanda_eric]

Using a stimulant and a depressant isn't good for you. It won't
really hurt you, however if you're having trouble sleeping than cut
down on the adderall. Maybe actually use more adderall (if its
prescription, contact your doctor about this problem). Then the
come down will happen faster, cause you'll use up your energy faster
(atleast with caffeine this works).

[bcStoner420]

i dont think taking more will help your problem, in my experiences the more u take the longer you stay up with amph.

[sadskills1987]

swim used to use it to fight EXTREME CASES of ritalin psychosis. at that level, one begins to self- mutilate and it is unsafe to remain in said state. diphenhydramine seems to have an effect similar to the description of how barbituates are used to cancel out the effects of amps in an emergency rm. setting. one returns to a more lucid state, and can be used to put one to sleep, but visuals are not as easy to attain as with diphenhydramine alone.

[wertfun]

SWIW used ones and his friend used many times sleeping pills after amph. nothing bad happened. Now SWIW doesnt need sleeping pills just has fun when used amph. then eat then go sleep just like normal.

[Rufus]

just don't do anything with acetminophen...it's really not that hard.
virtually every dollar store has some form or off brand of sleeping pills with pure diphenhydramine in them. usually 25mg each. Last I checked, Walgreens has a bottle of 100 30mg pills xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Be really careful with the diphynhydramine...make sure you're not dehydrated before you do it...it dries you out horribly.


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[Unsolved]

Not trying to but in here guys... but I just want to remind you. Diphenhydramine HCL doesn't work as a downer, it never has. It works by making the user drowsy something I consider to be totally different then a strict downwer such as beer, opiates. Therefore its not recomended to the user to do this regularly however if you are on a comedown from an upper such as adderall it can be a valuable sleep aide for sleep, when going to sleep seems impossible.

[bottlekop]

what are the effects of diphenhydramine if taken recreationaly? and at what dose?

[Nagognog2]

Use the Search engine (it is marked Search) - directly above where you are reading and a little to your right. This has been covered in these forums many times previously.

[Aopocetx]

Diphenhydramine's effects are nothing like Ambien. It sucks.

[RealGanjaMan]

Originally Posted by ShadyMilkman

I've taken large dosages of acetaminophen before with no adverse effects. For my weight I believe 8000mg it the toxicity level, I know I've taken around 7000mg before and have been fine.

SWIM is pretty confident that the toxicity level is actually 4000mg. I would advise everyone here to be very careful, and definatly do NOT exceed 4000mg. If possible, avoid it all together.

-RGM

[StigmataLectron]

Originally Posted by RealGanjaMan

SWIM is pretty confident that the toxicity level is actually 4000mg. I would advise everyone here to be very careful, and definatly do NOT exceed 4000mg. If possible, avoid it all together.

-RGM

If 4g is the lethal dose, then I wouldn't advise anybody to go near it. Acetaminophen can be really hurt your liver in single doses of 10 grams, and daily doses between 4 and 5g depending on whether or not you drink and what kind of health you're in. I believe the general rule of thumb is that you should never go above 4g a day (though the less, the better), but this isn't to say that taking 8 grams once in a blue moon isn't going to kill you - but do so at your own risk.

[Abrad]

Originally Posted by StigmataLectron

I believe the general rule of thumb is that you should never go above 4g a day

Yes, and the "a day" part is most important. Lots of SWIMs seem to think that because the max. daily dose is 4g, that it is safe to take this as a single dose.

Originally Posted by ShadyMilkman

I know I've taken around 7000mg before and have been fine.

SWIM can garauntee that you have done some degree of damage to your liver, APAP is extremely toxic in overdose.

[BlackCook]

It definitively is!
I had a time when i had to take about 4-5 gramms a day, too. In dosages of about 1g/dose and every dose in one hour intervals.
After two days i got small red pimples (dont know another word in english) all over the legs which were disgusting!
After i finished taking it, i had to wait about a week or more that they gone away.

But, by the way, there is something like an antidote: N-Acetylcysteine.

That is no joke!

It acts as a backup for the used Thioldonators (sorry if not english)and for glutathione. That are the two things which get messed up.

It has to be taken no later than 10 hours after the intoxication!

I have tried this, and it works.
When i take acetaminophen, i take acetylcysteine with it and i do drink much. its ok then.

I dont know if everybody knows acetylcysteine... its something what you get when you have a cough with a lot of mucus which you want to get rid of.

Brandnames in germany are: Fluimucil, ACC Akut, Atid and so on.

[INodHardOhYeah]

Use the search engine and you will find discussions of people who have had toxic reactions at or around 4000mg, SWIM would never even exceed 3000mg just to be on the safe side. Death by Acetaminophen is long, slow, and painful, don't risk it.

[bluetrain]

i did an extract of diphenhydramine once. its similar to a codeine extract; heat up water, stirr in the crushed pills, let cool, then filter trough a coffe-filter. the clear, filtered liquid (mine was clear) contains diphenhydramine, and the stuff left in the filter is the acetaminophen and whatever the pills were made of. eventually you could do one more extract (or as many as possible) with the stuff in the filter to get all the diphenhydramine.

[highganja99]

SWIM regularly takes 100mg - 200mg Diphennhydramine 30 mins to 1 hour before sleeping and gets good sleep each time. Taking it to come down off things like ritalin doesn't really work but can help getting to sleep afterwards.
obviously benadryl won't soften the comedown or be a sedative anything like diazepam would be. benadryl will help you sleep to an extent but will not help a comedown markedly. benadryl wont work if your still speeding and might make a comedown worse. SWIM remebers this combo didnt help sleep but induced visual trails, also lying in bed after snorting ritalin SWIM noted that a flashing sensation occurs in the eyes like someone flicking a light on and off with your eyes closed (almost like a strobing effect) that keeps you awake. Unfortunately SWIM only finds time to do ritalin of a night so trying to sleep is an area SWIM crosses frequently. SWIM prefers a good joint or two for sedation instead of benzo's and benadryl but does find benadryl is accessible, legal and most importantly is not as is known addictive.

[soma]

Swimmer has been known to take promethazine or diphenhydramine (usually 75mg) to ease the comedown of dextroamphetamine or amphetamine salts (Adderall). Combined with a nice hot cup of tea, it works wonders for swim to sleep through that terrible crash that follows the wonderful high.

[FlyingNinja]

Stress on the heart could be a possible a problem, especially with prolonged usage.

[stoveandshoe]

diphenhydramine puts an additional load on the heart.

That's the primary interaction to be worried about, as far as SWIM has found.