Coke and Viagra, trying to see clearly

[chazz]

Hi, (first post)

SWIM has been doing some extensive research of the subject over the last few months.

SWIM also has 2 personal experiences, both are quite positive. On both occasions, SWIM did about 0,5 g of coke and - eventually - 100 mg of V (because 50 proved uneffective).
SWIM had no racing heart problems, or anything similar. However, on the second occasion a slight dizzyness and feeling cold for 10 min (an hour after taking V and 2-3 lines), then it passed.

Still, SWIM read most of the available info on the subject and is a bit concerned if he should ever repeat it. Although, he must admit, that coke turns him on unbelievably and without V it is mere suffering, cause SWIM is the type that can't get it up on coke.

Is there anyone with appropriate scientific background who could shed some light on the problem? Other personal experiences are welcome, of course, but SWIM would really appreciate if someone, who feels themselves qualified to give a scientificly funded opinion, provided some answers.

thanks
chazz

PS: SWIM can't decide whether the official info is only to scare people off or actually is the truth. SWIM found that Viagra and poppers are a definitive "no-no!", something similar is E and Viagra. Then there is coke and Viagra, whose potential dangers are even less emphasized than in the previous case.

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Nice to see a Newbie reading the rules :-) Welcome.

[INodHardOhYeah]

SWIM used the cocaine/V coctail many times, cocaine; it giveth the will yet taketh the way. Anyway I would advise against it, SWIM on a number of occasions experienced vision problems, and whilst this is a side effect of V alone in only occured when in conjunction with cola. It's definetly not good for the heart either, avoid if possible.

[chazz]

I understand that it may be too much, I have requested . Nevertheless, Swim is still facing the problem of needing something to get it up on coke.

BTW, SWIM is a very infrequent user, (4-5 times a year), as he is too scared to do it more often and doesn't really feel the need for it, anyway.

Still, those 4-5 occasions are fantastic or would be, if SWIM could find something to cure his problem. Something, that doesn't put his heart at so much risk as Viagra.

SWIM looked at Cialis, too (though never tried), but he is rather helpless.

Could someone recommend anything to solve the problem? SWIM understands that there is always trade-off, and is ready to take moderate risks.

thanks
chazz

PS: Just trying to be catious, hope it doesn's sound coward...

[motorhead]

Viagra, and all the other ED drugs, dialates or relaxes blood vessels. This is how it helps people get a woody-helps blood flow to the penis. Relaxing the blood flow causes a drop in blood pressure.
Cocaine on the other hand does the oppisite-constricts blood vessels and causes blood pressure to increase(thus making it difficult for guys to get it up).
Is this combination bad? Well, alot of people think V alone is a risk, and it is clear that messing with your blood pressure so drastically can effect your health.
Now there is alot of info about mixing viagra and nitrates, which also relax blood flow and decrease blood pressure. Amyl nitrate(poppers) are used to increase sexual pleasure. Anything that improves blood flow to your juicy spots will make sex feel really good. So naturally alot of people want to combine the two. However, the drastic drop in blood pressure from this combination has resulted in several deaths as blood simply wont make it back to your heart, i.e. heart attack.
I'm not a doctor, but I would think that if you dont use crazy amounts of cocaine while popping a V, and you dont do it that often, then you should be ok. I could be wrong: listen to your body, keep googling, and wait for some more responses here. cheers

[chazz]

Thanks, I thought something similar, too.

But what about cialis, I read that it has a longer effect, i.e. 24-36 hours (and is different in certain aspects from Viagra). I suppose it doesn't lower blood pressure for such a long period, does it?

My - simple and very unprofessional - reasoning would be: if it does not lower blood pressure that much as Viagra, it would be less risky to use it. Coke gives you the sex drive that Cialis wouldn't and Cialis only helps to get a hard on. As I gather, Cialis makes you very responsive to stimulation, but doesn't give you a hard on for hours or so.

Am I wrong?

As for SWIM's personal experience, he did feel very relaxed when on both (c and V), unbelievably horny, but calm.

[Bladerunner]

Have heard Viagra taken by ladies is great for them too. SWIM popped one once and she had the hardest clit ever! I guess as it allows blood to flow to the genital area it increases the sensitivity......

[RealGanjaMan]

SWIM has found that unfortunatly, most drugs he has tried make sex near impossible (for the male gender, that is). Especially the ones that make SWIM want sex the most, such as ecstasy. Oh man how SWIM only wishes he could get off on X. This is one of the only situations where SWIM would actually rather be a girl. Speed/Meth tends to make SWIM's pecker the size of a 12 year olds, but luckily his sexual cravings arn't that bad at all on it. Weed tends to make sex more enjoyable, because it just flat out feels better. Other than that, the only drug SWIM has really been able to have good sex on is Alcohol. SWIM would choose weed over alcohol, however.

I'm very pissed at nature for coming up with this whole can't-get-off-on-drugs thing .

-RGM

[RealGanjaMan]

Damnit... I posted the above^^ in the wrong thread. Could a mod please move that post to "The ULTIMATE sex drug"?

Here is a link to the thread:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18188

Sorry for the trouble,
-RGM

[Snowman]

If getting it up is the problem L-Arginin might be cheaper and more healthy, on empty stomach it takes 30-60 minutes to kick in.

[Bladerunner]

Sorry to start up an old thread but is it true that cocaine can give men hard-ons? Does it also make females more horny too?

Cheers.

[chazz]

I thought about it and one more question occured to me, namely:

Is there any difference if you take the V an hour before coke or the other way around.
SWIM did it only a few minutes earlier so by the time V's effect arrived SWIM was high on coke. Probably, that is why SWIM needed a whole 100 gr of V.

I don't know if one takes a 1/4 V (for example) and waits for the effect to arrive and then starts on coke, is it sufficient to maintain erection? I suppose it is a lot less stressing to the heart if one takes only 1/4 V, isn't it?

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by RealGanjaMan

SWIM has found that unfortunatly, most drugs he has tried make sex near impossible (for the male gender, that is). Especially the ones that make SWIM want sex the most, such as ecstasy. Oh man how SWIM only wishes he could get off on X. This is one of the only situations where SWIM would actually rather be a girl. Speed/Meth tends to make SWIM's pecker the size of a 12 year olds,

LOL...

SWIM must be pretty lucky... he can typically get it up at least partway on just about anything (except powerfully serotonergic drugs), and can definitely get off eventually, even if it takes him awhile. Or maybe UNlucky, cuz he would actually use stimulants a lot less if they didn't affect him so well sexually (and he over-uses stimulants).

[gagger]

I am no doctor and i find it crazy that people would seek the advice of perfect strangers regarding your ticker ....in my opinion ..take the V OR cialis alone and enjoy ...the heart rate is raised during sex ..its also raised with Cola..and a combination of this could result in great sex with your last orgasm on top of a hooker LOL ...be careful all ..=)

[Pinkavvy]

be very careful mixing viagra with other stimulants, this could be hard on one's heart. if swiy gets lightheaded, blurry vision, or chest pains while mixing coke, meth, or ecsacy with viagra they should seek medical attention.

know your body well, and how each of these chemicals effects them before attempting these combinations.