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Old 10-10-2011, 16:14
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confused about cocaine detection times

Mickey has a drug test upcoming after being accepted for a job. He has used crack periodically 12 times in the last 40 days, most recently 48 hours ago. He has read this:

Most labs look for the metabolite, in the case of cocaine it is “benzoylecgonine” that will stay around long after the drug is gone, up to 30 days for a frequent user.

Age: 50ish
Height: 5' 8"
Weight: 145
Metabolism: High

How long should he wait before taking the test?
Should he be exercising like crazy? Drinking water?
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Old 10-10-2011, 18:08
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

the usual detection time ive seen for cocaine is 3 to 5 days. the 30 day estimate would be for a long term daily user. i would say if you could wait 4 or 5 days you should be in the clear, but everyones body is different. when you consume crack how many grams at a time?

also you should go to a pharmacy and buy some at home drug tests that you can use to test yourself.

otherwise look into synthetic urine.

do you know how long until you have to take the test?
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Old 10-10-2011, 23:14
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

Mickey used 2-3 times a week for 5 weeks. 1/2 gram each time (not high grade stuff). Test would be 60 hours clean time.
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

thats cutting it a little too close i think. does the person have access to either synthetic urine, can be obtained by going to a local porn shop, or a head shop. another option would be to get urine from someone who does not use drugs, putting that pee into a condom and them taping it on you groin where it would be close to your skin so the temperature would be right.

or else you could use one of those pee cleaner drinks, personally i think the synthetic urine is the best option.

do you know what kind of test they give you? if you just pee in a cup then they use a 5 panel test that gives results right on the spot, or do they send it into a lab?
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Old 11-10-2011, 00:08
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

Company is dynacare...a lab. Possible to get one more day.

pooterdoc added 1 Minutes and 11 Seconds later...

...if Mickey fails, maybe he could say he accidently picked up a laced cig outta ashtray.

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Old 11-10-2011, 00:16
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

i doubt that they would fall for that.

like i asked is there anyway for you to get your hands on either clean urine or one of those detox drinks. if you cant do that than yes delay it one more day to give yourself a better chance. you could drink lots of water as well, but really that is not going to give the best outcome, if you want to pass it for sure than you need to take a piss cleaner or use another's piss.

drinking lots of water and putting it off one more day will give a slightly better chance, but jobs are hard to come by these days, and delaying it only one day is not going to guarantee passing the test.

i have a lot of experience with drug tests, i was on probation for a year and a half or so and passes countless tests that should have been dirty.
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Old 11-10-2011, 00:36
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

clean urine not option..

detox drinks work? how to find locally?

pooterdoc added 1 Minutes and 15 Seconds later...

what i mean is...i could get clean urine...but dunno if its possible to use

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Old 11-10-2011, 01:00
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

the detox drinks have worked for me in the past, the only thing is if its sent into a lab they could tell that it the sample was diluted, because you have to chug a ton of water with those detox drinks. i wouldn't think that would automatically mean your dirty because you could have just drank a ton of water knowing you had to take a pee test so you wanted to be able to produce a urine sample. is there a porn shop in your town? if there is than you can get synthetic urine. it comes in a pouch that it heated and than held close to your skin so the temperature is correct. than it has a little tube you can tape under your dick, so if they watch you pee in the cup, you wouldn't be able to see the tube unless they take a very very close look at your dick.

all in all synthetic urine is the best bet, if you dont want to do that than i would use a detox drink, and that should be ok. either option would be better than just strait up peeing. the last time i had a test, i did a half gram of coke just snorted, i took a pee test at my home to see if i was dirty about 72 hours and i was, so i got someone elses clean pee and used that.

coolhandluke added 1 Minutes and 15 Seconds later...

i dont think when you get a pee test for a job they watch you pee in the cup, that more happens for probation tests. so id think you could use someone elses urine.

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Old 11-10-2011, 01:14
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

the form sez:



1) Type of Testing: Occupational urine drug screen collections*

please drink plenty of fluids prior to arriving at the testing facility. A urine sample will be collected so fasting is not necessary.




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Old 11-10-2011, 01:23
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

ok so i think that you should go to your local head show or porn shop and get a bottle of detox drink, take a look over the label and make sure it has instructions. it will tell you not to consume any toxins (drugs) 2 days before the drug test. than follow the instructions on the bottle. ive used these before and they worked for many a number of times. at the very least it would be better than not doing anything and just hoping its out of your system.
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Old 11-10-2011, 01:46
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

Thanks a lot! Mickey wonders if he still should buy a test kit too?

pooterdoc added 1 Minutes and 41 Seconds later...

approximate cost of detox drink?

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Old 11-10-2011, 01:56
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

the approximate cost of a drink is around 35 dollars. the test kit wouldn't be necessary, those drinks have never failed me or anyone i know, as long as you follow the instructions. dont use any drugs 48 hours before the test, the longer the better, and the drinks usually give you a 4 to 6 hour window where your urine will be clean, so comsume about 2.5 hours before the test. it will tell you to drink a certain amount of water and urinate often. good luck be sure to let us know how it goes.

congratz on the new job man. the 35 dollar investment will pay for itself fairly quickly.
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:01
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

ill let you know!

one last thing...any particular brand name?
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

not that i can remember, there are different ones, i have never heard anyone tell me "use this brand its the best" or anything like that. there are also pills, but just get the drink, the pills are for if you have not stopped using drugs 48 hours before taking the drink and are meant to be taken before taking the drink. just dont use, drink the drink, follow the instructions.
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

The pills and detox drinks do not work. Suggestion: definitely give it a trial run. Detox drinks can change the specific characteristics of unadultrated urine. Labs have specific testing proceedures to determine if adulteration was attempted. There are also specific
screening tests performed to detect common detox items. Through much research, it is a safe conclusion to make... That cocaine is the toughest substance to mask. I am unaware about whether or not the labs can detect synthetic urine, such as Synthetix5. Or if human hair eXtensions can be detected. I am curious to hear more stared success stories regarding specific instructions and a product guide, if there are solutions. A hair test is impossible to mask for cocaine use. don't know about masking a Saliva test. Or the requirements to do so. For synthetic urine, evidently it is odorless which can alert collector to request another sample.
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

got extension on test...

testing time will be 86 hours clean...any better?

pooterdoc added 58 Minutes and 14 Seconds later...

ok...place closes 7pm...gives me 4 more hours...

90 hours clean

that better be enough time...

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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

That's much better, & far more likely to not come up dirty.

I would still get a 'home dipstick test' from the drugstore. Yes, it'll cost you some cash ($20-40, iirc, depending on how many 'panels' you need to check for), but will help you decide if you need to try the detox drink.

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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

This is the standard mean average drug test detection chart. When putting your self into a position such as new employment to be for forewarned is to be for armed.

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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

yes that is great news, you i would think you would be clean by that time. but yes buying a urine test to double check a few hours before and then if it says your cleans go ahead, if its not clean, you need to get piss cleaner.
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

got a bit of an extension...

108 hours clean till test

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cant afford home urine test...

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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

If not a regular user, 108 hours should be enough time.

I know that chart says that with a saliva test (oral swab), the detection time is 5 minutes to 24 hours, and that it might be a bit longer for those who are regular users.

I know someone who received an oral swab drug screen, 11 days after the last use of cocaine, who still popped dirty; a test 20 days after last use came back clean. I still think it was a 'false' positive, but since the person in question was a heavy cocaine user (probably .5gm-1gm a day IV for almost 5 months, 1-3gms a day IV for the week previous to quitting), everyone said it was probably because of that. However, there seem to be a fairly decent amount of positive results for cocaine at this particular place... but since the person in question HAD been using large amounts of cocaine regularly, and the person was not on take-home doses at the clinic and did not have money, the confirmatory test was not done. Which still annoys her, a year later.

But, if someone is not doing a decent amount of cocaine on a regular (meaning, nearly daily) basis, 108 hours should be fine. You still might want to take the regular procedures (dilution, B vitamin for color, creatine supplement to raise the creatine levels), but as this is dilution & they DO check for that (which is why you have to do all the other stuff to try to prevent them figuring that) AND you have plenty of time since the last indulgence AND you don't indulge on a regular basis...

You should be fine. Without diluting (meaning drinking a shitton of water).

In regards to "can't afford a home urine test"...can you afford to, you know, not have a job? Think of it that way...

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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

Did the dilution thing....

PASSED THE TEST!!!!!

Start job Monday!!

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...or did I fail the test and they decided to give me a chance anyway!

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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

great news man, congratz on the new job!
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Re: confused about cocaine detection times

I get tested at the va and tested pos for cain after not using for 5 days I cant have a surgery I need now for 6 so I will let you all know what happens cause they do it in a lab and test months of clean. the va treats addicts like scum and I despise them. ive used for around 10 days strait and ive got a test in 11 days because their test is super sensitive done in the lab. ive had a torn meniscus for 10 months and work on my feet 50 hours a week but one pos test and they wouldn't do surgery w thc in test, after 6 mon I test pos for cain and then they say 6 more months so I cant fail the pain is overwhelming at times and pain pills don't work cuz im on methadone any one else had similar problems. when u hear the propaganda about the vets being important blah blah blah don't believe cuz they don't really give a F@%K. thnx fellow explorers for the opportunity to vent...

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