Risk of addiction when using heroin only in the weekends

[pokergod0588]

if someone were to use H only on weekends (friday and saturday night) and occasionally once in the middle of the week, would they be safe from addiction? i heard if u give like a day in between usage you'll be pretty well safe from atleast physical addiction because it has time to leave your system, is this correct?

[CrookedEye]

No, not by far... It starts to change your endorphin system when you use it even a couple times a week.. I thought I could do that, and would only use every 3rd day... I didn't realize why I wanted to do it every few days, and figured, it's okay, I am not doing it everyday... I was already addicted by then.. Almost every person that I know who has tried to do it semi-frequently likes it too much to not get addicted.. That is my experience, which has been extensive with opioids, from heroin and oxycontin to methadone for years.. Only since Iboga have I been able to get free.. It took years and was in and out of detoxes 7+ times, and finally got on the methadone programs, that took me over 3 years to get off of(over 3 years addicted to heroin and pills before that), and I am probably one of the exceptional cases, as most become lifers... Crappy way to waste 7 years, IMO.. But, hell, don't take my word for it...

[sands of time]

I agree with crooked. The problem is, you might start out using it the way you have proposed, but eventually you break you own rule and use it back to back days. After that, the behavior doesn't seem so unacceptable or detrimental. I'm not saying you will get hooked that way, but it's the perfect breeding ground for yet another herion addict. Swim has seen it way to many times and it's a sad sight. It's not worth if in any way, shape or form.

[deji]

That is exactly how we got hooked, and how everyone gets hooked really. I don't think anyone does heroin for the first time, and then does it every day. They do it here and there, and it starts to hook them. I was just doing it on weekends at first. After about 5 weekends, I felt really weird on a wednesday. Did it, and realized I was addicted. Nothing like I was later on, not even close, but that was the first sign. Today is over 7 years later, lots of heroin, lots of methadone, arrests, jail, OD, and lots of sickness, I am still sick. Most of my friends are on methadone, and probably will be forever, some have died, some have been deported, and some are in prison. Trust me, drop the heroin and never touch it again, its just a road of misery. You just end up sick and its not worth it at all.

[teddybearpicnics]

agreed with everyone that has posted. swim started out using an oxy every couple of months, then once tried dope..didn't touch it for 6 months, tried it again, didn't touch it for about 4 months, then found someone who had a reliable connect and started using every other week or so. then it became a weekend thing, then it was like oh well Wednesday is halfway there so lets get fucckkked up, all started as fun, then the needle was introduced on new years eve, and then after a few day binge...realized the seriousness of the situation and stopped using right away, 2 months later got back into it...fast foward 3 years, swim woke up sick today, went out and scored, and all is well (i guess) until tomorrow when the cycle starts all over

run far far away, i hate my life and it's all because of opiates, they are the hardest longest battle you will fight, and you always usually lose. as much as i love them, i hate them just as much

--teddy

[Ididnotinhale]

Just wanted to beg pokergod to not even start doing it once a week.

Like all the other swimmer, swim started off just on weekends.

But, every tuesday swim had to talk to the man who raped the love of his life and swim couldn't deal with it, so on one tuesday he decided opiates might help. It helped, so he started using every tuesday. Then he started using anytime he had a difficult situation.

Soon after swim is using daily and thoroughly addicted.

Swim doesn't even get high from the shit anymore, just uses it to avoid jonesing and wd, swim really wishes that he never started so please, please don't even use more than once every other weekend. You don't want to end up like me.

Putting opiates above friends, family, and school.

Now, The Love of His Life will not get back together with swim unless he can show her that swim is squeky clean.

It seems so easy to quit, just being a little sick for a few days and then you're good to go.

Andy yes, Swim has tried to quit for her. But after only a day swim remembes that opiates are so much more important than The Love of His Life.

Things never change.

I think of her while I insufflate the pills, knowing she's gone.


Don't let a few hours of feeling good ruin your life.

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good advice.

[chillinwill]

thats how swim started using and he was snorting it at the time....swim would use once or twice every weekend and then slowly swim started to use a couple of times a week and then the needle was introduced and then all of a sudden swim was using daily and he knew he was hooked.....swim has been able to handle every other drug fine but getting off of opiates has been the hardest thing swim has ever had to go through

[kaloochi]

Addiction is as much, if not more, a mental state than a physical one. The desire, compulsion for the drug is the beginning. Do you find yourself just looking forward to that next hit? Looking forward to weekends more than anything else? Danger signs. No, it's a definate NO.

[UNIBLACK810]

Not much more to say. I am sure swiy has read the prior post by now. There is no such thing as " NO addiction weekend Herion use". Actually non addiction and herion cannot even occupy the same page let alone the same sentence. Herion is an agonist.. With constant use" Yes even weekend use" It shuts down your bodies own need to produce it's own natural endorphin's. This will produce an inability to feel or experience happiness or pleasure as you once did before. Once swiy started this process swiy will than try to find a way to overcome this non feeling of pleasures i.e euphoria happiness etc. by way of more heroin, hence the tolerance which inevitably will lead swiy to addiction. So once again, non addiction and heroin. Lol. Doesnt exist.


~~~~heroin....Hence the root word is HERO!! Yey...Further look though.....Hero in. Hero end...get it Hero end. Yup it'll even kill superman wtf!!!!

[kaloochi]

Hero end...get it Hero end. Yup it'll even kill superman wtf!!!!

Kryptonite indeed!

[mickenator]

Swim has been an addict for over 18 years and still spends every waking day battling that evil monster. Once swiy goes down the road of thinking "it'll be ok if I just do it once more this week". Will look back years later sat in some rat infested shit-pit with nothing but a bad addiction thinking "I wish I'd never". So before you get hooked please give up.

[newgrower]

SWIM thought he could regulate use as SWIM had done many other drugs over years without serious problems. Then SWIM wound up kicking his habit in jail. Over a decade later SWIM hasn't done it since but sometimes wakes up from a dream wanting to drive down to some bad neighborhood as start again. SWIY should talk to some people who have used for at least a couple of years and most likely will not find one who will say you should start or you can control it (unless the junkie sees a way to get money or drugs out of SWIY or is an extremely rare individual).

[kaloochi]

'sometimes wakes up from a dream wanting to drive down to some bad neighborhood as start again.'
To swim there is stillk some kind of sick, twisted appeal in the seedy life of heroin use. He's been out of that lifestyle for over four years now, but sitting on a stairwell on some shit hole council estate, using, still holds that appeal. That is very fucked up. SWIM thinks you become addicted to the lifestyle as much as the drug.

[UNIBLACK810]

Originally Posted by kaloochi

'sometimes wakes up from a dream wanting to drive down to some bad neighborhood as start again.'
To swim there is stillk some kind of sick, twisted appeal in the seedy life of heroin use. He's been out of that lifestyle for over four years now, but sitting on a stairwell on some shit hole council estate, using, still holds that appeal. That is very fucked up. SWIM thinks you become addicted to the lifestyle as much as the drug.

As crazy as it sounds it's so true. SWIM thinks he was addicted to the lifestyle of heroin use just as much or maybe more than the actual heroin itself. There's still nothing like sitting in the piss infested hallways of a project building nodding off and then waking up to a hit of coke than nodding again all while keeping look out the winow for the fuckin police and the stickup man. Telling the rest of the junkies you don't have anymore when you know you have enough in your pocket to stay high for the next 7 days...wtf!! Yeah the high is excellent!! But the high you get from the whole process which leads to the actual high.....probably even better. Damn!


......It's not the high you hate, It's the reprecussion's that come with the high. Yup,,,,,true story.!!!

[MiMoMo]

Heroin ruined SWIM's best friend. He went West and hooked the Black Tar smoke. A long and horrible story that boils down to the same tale told by all the posters on this thread. Despite being exceptionally talented, attractive and skillful, SWIM's friend now lives on the dole, the (metha)'done and spouts bs and lies easier than breathing. Sadly, always an angle to get money. This is somebody who excitedly phoned me 2 years ago to announce he was 'dancing with the H' on weekends only. Try as I could to warn him of the definite danger, all my creative efforts were to no avail. The 'bad luck' he has encountered since that fateful decision of his defies imagination. No amount of talent, good looks and intelligence can win. In the end it all gets grinded into toxic waste. SWIM used to manage a stripclub for a few years and had an unavoidable front row seat to the tragedies befalling beautiful heroin girls. Continually witnessing these agonies is what eventually led SWIM to resign for the sake of his own sanity.

SWIM is lucky. Snorting H causes a raspy case of heroin lung chortle, making SWIM sound like Lou Rawls, not good. The great old rocker Lemmy hates the H for the people it takes, especially his bestest bud, the reknowned bass player, lead singer of Thin Lizzy, Phil Lynott.

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i think swim analization of swi a freinds situation was a good one.

[UNIBLACK810]

Once again the saga continues to repeat itself, as it always has and always will continue to do. Just as long as mankind holds his ferm spot called exsistence upon this beautiful yet oh so hellish place we know as earth. As my fellow SWIMMER above and all others who found the urge to post before SWI any of us have shown, YES that great white "HORSE<<<" has chosen to veer it's sinister face yet once again. And as disturbing as it still is to SWIM even after years and years of opiate addiction it somehow manages to curl SWIM's stomach every single time! without exception. I guess you never ever really get used to it. The mere fact of knowing that SWIY has experienced that SAME exact scenario @ one point in SWIM"s life wether it be past or current situation SWIM is still dealing with it just terrorizes the soul when you experience your life of addiction over again just from the teeth chattering words of someone else's mirror like situation. That gorrila like phantom we've come to know as "KING KONG" bka heroin is SWIU's best freind, lover, mother, confidont, judge and jury. The one who SWIU would give our lives for as we continue to prove every active day of addiction. Who in turn is our own personal SATAN , demon, terror cell and worst enemy all @ the same time. Such a cunnnig element this thing has to be man WTF!. I guess SWIU all started out that way. Dip and dab. Bob and weave. Just a little here a dab there. Only to find out in such a short amount of time. Nah,,, it just doesn't work that way. That's not the way the game was invented to be played . It's all or nothing. Either both feet in or out. There is No!!! I repeat NO! in between. And if you've some how mistakingly alllowed yourself to began to believe this,than good ole Mr. H aka "KING KONG" will gladly and eagerly be coming to jump on your back and choke the living shit out of you, just to kindly bring you back down to earth with a reality check. So than maybe you'll keep in mind who's the boss. And by all means let you know who always wins. And I do mean ALWAYS!!! One way or another. The only guaranteed defeat over Mr. H is to make sure that you in your world @least....He just doesnt exist. When that time does just happen to present itself, maybe at the social gathering a freinds house night out on the club or whereever you may find'em just"chilling". And he asked you to "dance" turn'em down. Tell'em he's just not your type. Fuck'em, he'll get over it. Because that one dance. As good as he may feel caressing your every last receptor easing all your pain's and worries instantly. As much as he'll try to convince you of how so much good he can do in your life. How he'll be there for you to carry you through the days when it seems hopeless. How he's so much better than all the rest. And don't get SWIM wrong becaue as true as all of this maybe, he always seems to leave out just what he'll want in return. And what that is.........Is he want's everything!!!!! All the way down to your last breath. Everything. Now if somehow this still seems appealing to you than SWIM is convinced to believe that you cannot possibly be from the planet earth. And even than SWIM would not wish his wrath upon a mere alien lifeform. So by all means take what you can from this post and let it stick within your mind for eternity. It may just save your life one day. Best way to quit is to never start. Addiction...definetly not fiction. Remember it's all or nothing in this game. You start to play....you are here to stay. But I promise you....you'll dread that day. Later SWIMMER's keep ya head up.


~~~~~~ You can spend days months even years over analyzing a situation. Wondering what coulda happened trying to pick the peices up off the floor........Or you can leave the peices there on the floor and just move the fuck on.

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	infinitely memorable, thank You...
	Well said

[chillinwill]

Originally Posted by kaloochi

'sometimes wakes up from a dream wanting to drive down to some bad neighborhood as start again.'
To swim there is stillk some kind of sick, twisted appeal in the seedy life of heroin use. He's been out of that lifestyle for over four years now, but sitting on a stairwell on some shit hole council estate, using, still holds that appeal. That is very fucked up. SWIM thinks you become addicted to the lifestyle as much as the drug.

SWIM totally agrees...not only did SWIM become addicted to the lifestyle, but SWIM became addicted to the whole needle thing....SWIM eventually realized that he was addicted to the whole proceedure of fixing and cooking it up etc

[kebertxela]

Most people think that heroin is "outright" addictive. In other words, you do it once and you know you are hooked. That's not the case. The reason heroin is so addictive is that it is subtle and most importantly, feels incredible. In nearly ALL cases of heroin addiction, this is what happens. Someone will try it once, probably with all these pre-conceived notions about how "outrightly" addictive it is. They will do it and then the next day realize that they aren't hooked. They may wait a few days, weeks or months before they do it again. But, they will inevitably do it again because it feels so fucking good.

When they do it again, they will say, "I am only going to use it on the weekends" (or something along those lines). They may do this for a while. But, there WILL come a time when a bit of heroin on a Tuesday sounds like a great idea. They will justify it by saying, "I have been doing it for X amount of time and I am not hooked. So, a little more 'just this once' won't hurt." Once they do this, they are going to go downhill at an exponential rate. Soon, they will do it a couple of times a week because it feels so fucking good. Before they know it, it is every day. One day, it will dawn on them that they are hooked. At that point, it's too late.

Heroin addiction is subtle. It doesn't just come up and slap you in the face. It sneaks up on you. In SWIM's case, it took about 4 months. He started snorting about once or twice a week ($20/week or so). He did this for a month or so. Then he increased his dose to ~$40/week (still only once or twice a week). Within a few weeks, he was doing it ever 3 days. It wasn't long before it was every other day and then every day. He realized he might be getting hooked, so he quit. That lasted about a month. Then he had a major break-up with a girlfriend, got super depressed and decided he would buy another bag and shoot it. He started shooting it every 3-4 days. This QUICKLY progressed to every other day. Before he knew it, he was shooting it every day. His habit went from $20/week (4-5 months ago) to a $200/DAY habit!

Because of heroin, SWIM has been through 1 outpatient treatment, 8 inpatient treatments (one 4-month extended treatment) and about 10 detoxes. He's OD'd several times, lost 3 cars, jobs, is in major debt and has ripped his family and friend's hearts out. All in about 6.5 years. On the plus side, SWIM has been able to put together two periods of GOOD sobriety (3.5 years and 1.5 years).

It is pretty easy to see from reading all the posts that there is no such thing as using heroin "on the weekends." DON'T try it. It's not worth all the pain and anguish for a little euphoria and that warm opiate glow.

[frankz81]

using weekends and the occasional day here and there , u wont get addicted physically, but mentally yes...once once mentally hooked u will want more and lead to being physically hooked. once there u can either suffer cold turkey, or get hooked on another opiate via a maintenance plan