Aqueous Solution idea

[Sublime]

First off, SWIM is no chemist at all by a long shot. SWIM was wondering if one could mix 2 RCs in one aqueous solution? Say to make 1ml=6mg of one RC and 8mg of another RC. Is this possible or nonsense?

[fatmanstan]

I don't know why this wouldn't work, although you would sure be limiting your options further down the road, when you might say x+y is a good combo, but I really wish I had some plain old x lying around. SWIM would make two separate solutions, and mix as necessary, but that's just old swimy.

[nanobrain]

it certainly is possible with a proper solvent mix, but in actual fact, upon further thinking, you'll realise its nonsense.

[Sublime]

If SWIM makes the Liquid solution, then decides he wants it back in powder form and say SWIM had 1ml = 12mg 2ci & 8mg 2ct2. Would 20mg of the powder afterwards = 12mg 2ci & 8mg 2ct2 or would it be all mixed up ?

[treefingers49]

This thread is confusing me. Why would anyone in their right mind want to make an aqueous solution of two different compounds (when two solutions would work just fine) and then dry it out hoping for a certain ratio of the chemicals?

actually, I've got a guess as to the answer. Somebody does not have a scale but would like to sell a combination of chemicals as the big new and ultra cool awesome drug on the street. am I right?

[Sublime]

No, your not right at all. SWIM has a scale, that goes by 10mg and does cannot measure very small doses. SWIM has no intention of selling RCs, so please do not accuse SWIM of wanting to do so.

[raven3davis]

Just make 2 different solutions. If you have 2 chemicals in one solution and you dry it out, the powder is going to be mixed. If you started with 8mg 2-c-t-2 and 12mg 2c-i, you will end up with the same amount of both chemical but they will be mixed together. You will not be able to take the chemicals separately and frankly that is one of the worst ideas ever. Do not mix RCs if it is your first time taking either chemical. Some chemicals do not even mix well together so you might not have a good trip taking two at a time. you will definitely want to work with each chemical separately, and if you dont have a way to measure it then dont take the chemicals.

[treefingers49]

didn't mean to accuse anyone of anything. I just could not come up with any other possible reason for wanting to do this.

[Sublime]

Thanks for the advice, I will just stick to keeping them seperate.

[Sublime]

Don't know if you completely understood what SWIM was talking about on this one. If one was to mix 80mg of 2ctc and 120mg of 2ci in 100ml of liquid, and then turned it back to powder, would 20mg of the powder= 8mg 2ct2/12mg2ci?

Originally Posted by raven3davis

Just make 2 different solutions. If you have 2 chemicals in one solution and you dry it out, the powder is going to be mixed. If you started with 8mg 2-c-t-2 and 12mg 2c-i, you will end up with the same amount of both chemical but they will be mixed together. You will not be able to take the chemicals separately and frankly that is one of the worst ideas ever. Do not mix RCs if it is your first time taking either chemical. Some chemicals do not even mix well together so you might not have a good trip taking two at a time. you will definitely want to work with each chemical separately, and if you dont have a way to measure it then dont take the chemicals.

[Sublime]

meant 20mgs of the mixed powder that it would now be.

[psitryp]

Originally Posted by Sublime

Don't know if you completely understood what SWIM was talking about on this one. If one was to mix 80mg of 2ctc and 120mg of 2ci in 100ml of liquid, and then turned it back to powder, would 20mg of the powder= 8mg 2ct2/12mg2ci?

If both compunds have roughly the same density, adhesive characteristics and particle size then yes you will probably be left with a somewhat uniform powder and your reasoning would work. But I doubt that these two compounds are identical (maybe similar though) in all those respects. As you handle the powder it will become compressed and adhere to each other thus forming particles of different sizes and shapes resulting in a nonuniform powder. The solution however will most likely be uniform so no problem dosing while they are in the solution.

Then again it could work like a charm but you can't know for certain. seeing as the dosage interval is similar for both 2c-t-2 and 2c-i (if you look at shulgins recomendations) it won't create a catastrophe if you'd get more of one of them as they are similarly potent. For example, you get 2mg A and 18mg B and it wouldn't hurt you. 20mg B wouldn't hurt you either so you're not taking a very big risk doing this.

To summarize: There appears to be little if any risk to evaporate and get a powder instead. There's no way of knowing the ratio between the two chemicals in individual doses though so you haven't reached your goal by a long shot. Easier and more reliable to have them separated altogheter.