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Old 16-09-2011, 04:25
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What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

Hey I'm on the suboxone program and have to do weekly drug tests.. How long does Kratom stay in your system for? Lastly, what does it show up on a drug test as?

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Old 16-09-2011, 05:22
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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

Please use the forum search engine. This topic has been discussed.

Personally, kratom has never come up on a urinary drug test I have taken. It is legal in the United States and is not an opiate.
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Old 16-09-2011, 05:47
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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

Does anyone know how long it takes for the drug to get out of your system?
I have a drug test next friday and plan on taking the drug this friday.. will it be out of my system by then? also, if it does come up as a drug, which one?

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Old 16-09-2011, 06:05
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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

Damn dude...chill out and use your search function. I honestly think you're getting workedd up over nothing because I'm pretty sure kratom does NOT show up on drug tests. I don't know that for sure but from everything I've read (after using the search function) it would seem you have nothing to worry about. But for grins and giggles, let's say it does show up. It's legal in Canada so what can they do?

And for the record, kratom isn't a "drug".

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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

Also, I'm on suboxone is it safe to take Krotam while on suboxone will there be any negative interactions between the 2 drugs?

- and if it shows up as opiates i get kicked from my suboxone clinic thats why its a big deal
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Old 16-09-2011, 06:08
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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

Hey OP, I used the forum search engine FOR YOU and came up with this handy link

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...atom+drug+test

I hope it helps.

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Old 16-09-2011, 06:17
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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

It's safe to take the two together. But in all honesty, you're not likely to see any effects at all if you're on subs or any other opiate for that matter. It's great to use for WD's and is noticeable once you've cleaned your system of chemical substances...but if you're receptors are already being raped with suboxone, you're most likely wasting your time with kratom.
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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

hmmm.. thanks for the help it is appreciated.. I was just wondering if anyone else had any input on mixing suboxone and kratom do people think it is a waste as well?

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also, I can't take any opiate or benzo's.. and I want something to chill me out/relax/make me numb.. what drug could I possibly ingest that wouldn't fuck up my suboxone treatment (can't be an opiate, benzo or weed)

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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

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also, I can't take any opiate or benzo's.. and I want something to chill me out/relax/make me numb.. what drug could I possibly ingest that wouldn't fuck up my suboxone treatment (can't be an opiate, benzo or weed)
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...ght=ethneogens

There are a range of drugs available that are legal. Some people are experimenting with research chemicals, but I have no advice regarding those aside from "just because it's legal doesn't mean it's safe."

As for ethneogens, I have tried a few. I would say that kratom is one of the ones I like the best. I have taken valerian root for relaxation but the effects are very subtle. If someone is used to the potency of benzos, opiates, and illegal stimulants, then ethneogens are going to seem weak or ineffective.

Blue Lotus tea is something else I have tried and liked but is subtle. Passion flower is another one I like. I have tried salvia and I like it in the right setting
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Old 16-09-2011, 06:38
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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

Just watching vids of people tripping on salvia scares the crap out of me.

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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

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also, I can't take any opiate or benzo's.. and I want something to chill me out/relax/make me numb.. what drug could I possibly ingest that wouldn't fuck up my suboxone treatment (can't be an opiate, benzo or weed)
My dog Piggybear would recommend kava as far as ethnos.......but that can be hit or miss. Another good one would be phenibut (man made).
Piggybear used kratom to get off of suboxone, but has no experience mixing the 2. From what he's gathered, sub floods your receptors, and won't let kratom in. So yes, theoretically it would be a waste.
As far as the original question, it won't show up as anything unless it's adulterated.

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Old 16-09-2011, 15:59
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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

Kratom will not and does not show up for anything on a drug test. I am currently in Drug Court and get tested once a week or so. Been on for a year, all while taking kratom, and never had so much as a suspicion sent my way.

As for taking suboxone and still trying to get a buzz, I don't think that's going to work. Unless you stop taking the suboxone for a few days (which I don't recommend), then you take your normal dose again, your receptors will be saturated again, and it will feel quite nice.

I only used kratom to get off suboxone. I doubt you would feel anything while still taking the subs. Although I do remember smoking spice, and most of the time, the two worked together alright, but sometimes I would have a bad trip of sorts.
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Old 16-09-2011, 16:37
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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

Okay. Since Kratom won't work.. What are peoples views on Kava-Kava and Kanna?

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Old 16-09-2011, 17:07
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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

Quite a bit of misinformation/uncertainty here, i will attempt to clear up.....

Kratom will not show up on a drugs test. It will NOT show up as an opiate as it is not one. The test would have to be specifically looking for the active alkaloids in Kratom, which it won't be in a country where its legal, at the very least.

Kratom IS a drug, or at least the alkaloids within it that give one the desired effect are. A "Drug" by definition is "a chemical substance that affects the processes of the mind or body". In the case of Kratom this would be Mitragynine and 7-Hydroxymitragynine primarily, although there are many different alkaloids within Kratom, these are considered the primary "actives" and are structurally related to Tryptamines.

Members here have recommended aside from others; Kava-Kava, Kanna and Phenibut. They should have mentioned that you should not combine Kanna with any SSRI/SNRI antidepressant as it has SNRI properties itself and therefore there is a risk of serotonin syndrome (which can be fatal). As regards Phenibut again mention should have been made of its addictive qualities. Kava-kava is relatively safe, aside from the debate over liver toxicity, which is by and large disproven...as far as the plants root is concerned anyway. No biggy, but its good to make mention of any possible complications/neg side effects when suggesting substances. Not aiming this at anyone specifically, just bearing harm reduction in mind

Also, whilst Kratom is not an opiate is does target the mu-opioid receptors so it wont work whilst one is using Subutex/Suboxone, simple as.

peace!

p.s just noting your latest post OP, do some reading, the answers to your questions are already here on DF and you wont earn yourself any brownie points by continually asking questions that have been asked and answered many many times before. Just a heads up....

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Old 16-09-2011, 17:20
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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

Misinformation?
When did OP mention being on any sort of AD?
The only person to mention Kanna was the OP.
Don't get me wrong, space, I too think this is a terrible thread LOL
*disregard*
thanks for the clarification space. harm reduction is priceless

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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

I bought some Kanna and wanted to take it tonight..
Is it safe to mix with suboxone?
What is a good dose to start off with?
Will Kanna show up as anything on a drug test?
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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

If you want to discuss Kanna please do so in the correct forum.
This forum is for discussing Kratom.
There is no point in having what might be useful information on Kanna or Kanna combinations posted in the wrong forum where people who might find it useful will never find it.

Post any questions regarding Kanna here....Ethnobotanicals http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=40

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Old 17-09-2011, 02:33
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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

I think OP is a little more interested in simply getting high as opposed to actually following along with the rules of the forum.
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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

Hey Kratom doesnt show up, but if ur looking for something else as stated above there are synthetic "fake pot" blends but I would highly suggest staying away....I tried them for awhile and noticed they are highly highly addictive.....it's like crack weed. But on the flip side if u only used a couple bowl hits every 3 days or so you would be fine....but that's hard to do with that stuff. Also if your looking for a numbing type feeling get some wormwood soak it in vodka and drink.....hope this helped ....and as always keep your vision twisted!!

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Re: What does Kratom Come up in Drug Tests for?

People need to cooperate and not insult and demand to use "search" function. Sometimes people can't find what they need during a search. I looked up something and this topic was at top of Google. The posters above are putting the forum in negative light. Please be friendly.

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