Most Euphoric RC combo

[Sublime]

SWIM has been searching and has not found this topic so much. SWIM would like to know what combo SWIYs would find most euphoric while not being so much Psychedelic. SWIM was thinking along the lines of 16mg 2C-I, 8mg 2C-T-2, but was looking to add one more rc to the mix for added euphoria without making it too much more Psychedelic. What does SWIYs think? Is there such an RC maybe to give a boost at a small dose?

[JewishNazi]

I have read that 5-MeO-DALT is almost void of psychedelic effects but stil gives a mood enhancment and minor stimulation. Maybe that would gdo the job

[Sublime]

Thanks Jewishnazi. I just read up some on that one. Someone posted elsewhere that it is supposed to be the ecstasy of the Tryptamines. Would anyone that has tried it say that is true?

[nanobrain]

no. there is no 'ecstasy tryptamine'. 5-MEO-DALT has only a very peripheral / tangential resemblence to MDMA. in fact, the ratties found the effects to be completely different.

[dr.red.evil]

Actually i think 5meomipt is the triping mans xtc.Try it you might like it,

[nanobrain]

^my rats exposed to 5-MEO-MiPT found it nothing at all like MDMA, and did not substitute for MDMA in discrimination studies.

[oldman]

I will agree with nano, it's not mdma but swim thinks 5meo-mipt does have a nice euphoric feel and not much in the way of visuals (at modest levels). it is very tickly to your insides, sex is good (easier than e). not alot of body load. he has combined it with 2ci, was very visual, a little on the shakey side.

closest to e would be m1, but hard to get now, is expensive, and much shorter span. 2 hours tops.

red devil is right, try it you might like it. it is easier on your body than the ones you mention.

[JewishNazi]

Nano and oldman, what dose did you rats respond well to? SWIM is considering ths (5-MeO-MiPT) as a change from testing 2C-E

[hazeinmybong2]

Sublime, you might want to ease your rats into things a little. I read in your other post that they haven't tripped before. Try a roll. Feed em some shrooms. Maybe after they eat some shrooms then have a roll for desert you might consider dosing them with multiple drugs. Remember that these drugs have synergy. Think of it like drinking, you chug a few beers. Drink a couple more, and start doing shots. All this alcohol is fuckin you up, but its always that last shot that was too much and makes you puke your brains out. If you eat 3.5g of mushrooms and you eat a roll that is enough drugs for three people. You will also think you are three people.

[Sublime]

Swim has rolled on several occassions, he just never considered MDMA a psychedelic. SWIM once took some tabs that made him hallucinate very little, felt as if SWIM was in a movie. I am guessing SWIM had some MDA in his pill that time.

[sg43]

SWIM can agree that 5meo-mipt had a very nice body high comparable to mdma but still had the tryptamine mind set with slight visuals (depending on dosage they can become more intense) SWIM would think around 10mg of 5meo-mipt with 200mg of methylone would be somewhere along those lines...

[oldman]

swim will agree with sg43 on that. as to jewishnazi, 5meo will not be nearly as visual as 2ce, but probably will be kinder to your body (load). probably more euphoric as well.

but beware many accounts on here from experienced trippers who took 12mgs or greater the first time had some trouble and as a result never got comfortable with i again. swim and the mrs. started with levels in the 6-8mg range first and have found 10mg to be nice as well. more seems to be more visual but incapacitates you a little more too (especiall sexually). if it doesn't give you what you want at 12mg it probably won't at any level, but swim would not recommend that dose at first or even second try.

also as sg43 mentions a combo of 200mgs of m1. swim thinks m1 goes good with just about anything but do not injest simultaneously being that it typically dominates any and all other chems. and is short lived. so he recomends the m1 as the peak starts to slope down (3-4hours).

[Sublime]

M1 is one chem that SWIM will probably not be able to find. Besides isn't M1 quite espensive? SWIM will most likely try some 2C-I, 2C-T-2, and 5-MeO-Mipt seperately for his first RCs. Those are the ones that interest him the most, while 2-CE does somewhat, he is considering it later down the road. Has anyone tried 2ci, 2ct2, 5meoMipt in one combo? SWIM will probably expieriment with this in low doses once he has tried them all.

[JewishNazi]

Oldman: SWIM is pretty sure that LSD would be the only other substance that can compare the the visuals off of 27mgs of @C-E. SWIM is looking for something with less visuals (so a winner in that respect) that he can be more social on. 2C-E, while certainly fun, its really something for a party scene. 4-HO-DiPT was good for that actually

[Sublime]

I'm guessing that you meant 2C-E is Not something for a party scene?

[psitryp]

Originally Posted by Sublime

Swim has rolled on several occassions, he just never considered MDMA a psychedelic. SWIM once took some tabs that made him hallucinate very little, felt as if SWIM was in a movie. I am guessing SWIM had some MDA in his pill that time.

I disagree. I consider the MDxx compunds to be quite psychedelic although a whole other type of psychedelism (is that a word?) is produced by these compared to other more pure and pronounced psychedelics. This effect comes around if you roll on your own at home, to much less degree if you use it in a club setting in my opinion. It is most apparent for me if I lie on a bed with some gentle music playing and meditate or watching pictures of loved ones/pictures of yourself as a little boy/girl. I have regressed to a prenatal state under methylone for example. So yeah I think you can use MDxx compunds to get some kind of idea of how psyhedelics work. Not a very good comparison as it is very different than other psychedelics, but a glimpse in any case.

[hazeinmybong2]

Swim would have to agree with psitryp. MDMA can be very psychedelic. Especially during Swims first experiements. He was laying down after the peak in the dark. He swore he saw an animal in his room runnin around. It didn't mean much to him at first because he thought it was his cat. Then all of the sudden this shadow creature was right next to him. He flipped on his lights and nothing was there. It was strange because swim swore he could feel the craving of this creatures soul for flesh. That was probably the fourth or fifth time swim rolled, he had to play the one up game, everyone else took 3 he took 4.

[oldman]

well, mdma by most peoples accounts is psychedelic at the 3-4 pill dose. especially if they're strong rolls to start with and you're not an e-tard already. the comedown usually is not much fun at that level though.

Sublime- the ones you mention are the ones swim tried first also. they're a good start. swim has done 2ci with 5meo it was pretty intense and visual. maybe a little too much really. got a little scarey. was about 6mgs 5meo and 10 mgs 2ci. he has done 2ct2 with 2ci can't remember dose though. was not anything great. kinda uncomfortable he said. both better on their own. just swims opinion though.

[treefingers49]

5-meo-what?

[oldman]

5meo-mipt. sorry for not being specific, but was the only 5meo mentioned in this thread.

[JewishNazi]

oh, yes, SWIM meant NOT

[snapper]

5meodipt and now 5meomipt with dpt is a great combination in SWIMs opinion. The DPT is nice because you can control the duration with redosing, esp. with the freebase. The key to 5meomipt, and 5meodipt, is not to dose too high. This is a concept that some people have a problem with. A low dose of AMT (before it disappeared and became illegal) also combined well with these, though it greatly outlives the effects of the other two.
Snapper

Snapper

[oldman]

swim will agree with snapper on the low dose of 5meo-mipt being a better route. it is so nice and soft and not very visual swim thinks alot of people figure there nust be more down the road if you increase the dosage more. really he finds it just as satisfying at 6-8mgs as 12. not nearly as shakey either.

[big-lester]

My friends had a VERY euphoric trip with 4-aco-mipt, laughing about everything but I mean everything, when someone walked in the door everybody started laughing when somebody said something like 'I have a white dog' everybody started laughing nonstop. this only happend once (in the 3 times they've used it) but the others where also euphoric but not as extreem as then.
maybe mixing this with 2c-e?

[treefingers49]

I always find laughing attacks to be different from euphoria. SWIM has had many laughing attacks, but truly euphoric experiences (MDMA, methylone, mushrooms, 2C-T-7) were actually devoid of the giggles.