HOW TO: Be a Human LIE-DETECTOR!

[Richard_smoker]

from blifaloo.com, describes one of the most useful applications of NLP (neuro-linguistic programming)--i.e. Tony Robbins, Ross Jefferies (the speed seduction sleaze), Richard Bandler, others. Sorry about all the links to pics. I would really appreciate someone telling me how to insert pics in a reasonable fashion... i tried copying/pasting, even uploading/attaching files... doesn't look like anything is working. someone please help me.

Eye Direction and Lying: Eye Movement and Direction and How it Can Reveal the Truth or a Lie
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This is a continuation of our previous article " Detecting Lies". Many comments by our visitors have asked about how eye direction can indicate the presence of a lie.

So can the direction a person's eyes reveal whether or not they are making a truthful statement? Short answer: sort of. But, it isn't as simple as some recent television shows or movies make it seem. In these shows a detective will deduce a person is being untruthful simply because they looked to the left or right while making a statement.

In reality, it would be foolish to make such a snap judgment without further investigation... but the technique does have some merit. So, here it is... read, ponder and test it on your friends and family to see how reliable it is for yourself.

Visual Accessing Cues
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The first time "Visual Accessing Cues" were discussed (at least to my knowledge), was by Richard Bandler and John Grinder in their book "Frogs into Princes: Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP) " From their experiments this is what they found:

When asked a question a "normally organized" right-handed person looks (from your viewpoint, looking at them):

looking up and to the left
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Up and to the Left
Indicates: Visually Constructed Images (Vc)
If you asked someone to "Imagine a purple buffalo", this would be the direction their eyes moved in while thinking about the question as they "Visually Constructed" a purple buffalo in their mind.





looking up and to the right
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Up and to the Right
Indicates: Visually Remembered Images (Vr)
If you asked someone to "What color was the first house you lived in?", this would be the direction their eyes moved in while thinking about the question as they "Visually Remembered" the color of their childhood home.





To the Left
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Indicates: Auditory Constructed (Ac)
If you asked someone to "Try and create the highest the sound of the pitch possible in your head", this would be the direction their eyes moved in while thinking about the question as they "Auditorily Constructed" this this sound that they have never heard of.


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To the Right
Indicates: Auditory Remembered (Ar)
If you asked someone to "Remember what their mother's voice sounds like ", this would be the direction their eyes moved in while thinking about the question as they "Auditorily Remembered " this sound.



eyes down and to the left

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Down and to the Left
Indicates: Feeling / Kinesthetic (F)
If you asked someone to "Can you remember the smell of a campfire? ", this would be the direction their eyes moved in while thinking about the question as they used recalled a smell, feeling, or taste.



looking down and to the right

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Down and To the Right
Indicates: Internal Dialog (Ai)
This is the direction of someone eyes as they "talk to themselves".



The Gist of it...
How this information is used to detect lies:

Example: Let's say your child ask's you for a cookie, and you ask them "well, what did your mother say?" As they reply "Mom said... yes." they look to the left. This would indicate a made up answer as their eyes are showing a "constructed image or sound. Looking to the right would indicated a "remembered" voice or image, and thus would be telling the truth.

Related Books: Frogs into Princes, Never be Lied to Again

Final Notes:

*** Looking straight ahead or with eyes that are defocused/unmoving is also considered a sign of visual accessing.

*** A typical left-handed person would have the opposite meanings for their eye-directions.

*** As with other signs of lying, you should first establish and understand a persons base-behavior before concluding they are lying by the direction of their eyes.

*** Many critics believe the above is a bunch of bullshit. In my own experiments I have found these techniques to be more true than not. But, why not find out for yourself? Make up a list of questions that like the sample ones, and give them to your friends/family anyone who would be your guinea pig, observe their eye movements and record the results.

*** This guide is hardly in-depth, I recommend getting the book "Frogs into Princes: Neuro Linguistic Programming" by Richard Bandler and John Grinder for a more thorough explanation if the subject interests you.
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Hi. I've read the book "Frogs into Princes" and did not find it of any use for better understanding the visual accessing cues. This guide is probably the best explanation I've ever read. In his book, "Frogs into Princes," (actually an audio recording--scripted into a book format), Bandler spends most of his time trying to 'proove' that the accessing cues exist. Short answer: They exist.

In reality: ideas are based upon the assumption that all Right Handed people are Left-Brained, and vice-versa. In reality, this statement is not true. If I remember correctly, it is thought that approximately 80% of Right-handed people are Left-brained, the other 20% are Right-Brained. And again, if memory serves me, even fewer Left-handed people are Right-Brained... but just remember that as a rule of thumb, MOST R-handers are L-brained, and most L-handers are R-brained.

There's a simple solution to this fault in logic... Just PERFORM A TEST ON THE SUBJECT FIRST!! You can ask them to imagine ____ and then watch their eye activity for your answer. Chances are, you will at very least be able to use this technique to evaluate people for lying to you when placed 'on-the-spot' i.e. playing poker, on witness stand, when confronted by a crowd. Remember the sympathetic nervous system (fight or flight) is FAR more powerful than the conscious mind. People cannot help if their pupils BLOW into full diation when they lie. (i.e. my little sister: her pupils shot out into full dilation every time she lied. I used this test on her as a child, and it STILL works even though she's in her 20's--also still works when she's been drinking!

thanks for reading! Happy Times, -Dick.

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interesting post

[Alfa]

About posting pictures: Forum Suggestion Box

[Richard_smoker]

THANKS, ALFA!

I'm following the link's directions... we'll see what happens! thanks for being understanding.

um, dragged attachments to particular spots in post, and all I see on my computer is more links... as far as I know, I followed the advice exactly....sorry, just realized, there's no "paperclip" available as far as I can tell.

sorry to be such a pain. maybe i'm just a computer-dumbass

[Alfa]

hmm, then I'll have to give you your advanced editing options back.
^ But you just posted your first clean post here. It's a relief to see a post from you which is not mixed with bold, underlines, italics, etc, etc. Wait, lemme enjoy it a bit more, then I'll give it back. Be good then, will ya?

[Richard_smoker]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Sorry Alfa, sorry to everyone else whose eyeballs that I have injured and/or damaged due to excessive, overly-dramatic editing!

Seriously, I thought I had fixed my ways, but alas... (sniff, frown) I guess I still didn't get it...

You guys have no idea how hard it was not to throw in some smiley faces and some frowny/crying faces in the above description... Again, forgive me. I have no excuse--just trying to be me, and not trying to anger and arouse (ok, maybe trying to arouse some, but not to anger!)

-to the best board in the world! ;p [smoke buds] --ha, JUST KIDDING! last time...-->

p.s. i never knew you revoked my advanced editing priveleges! I guess now I need about 350 posts to win the gold, huh? damn--at least you can't call me a whore! ok, maybe for this ONE post. whore-ish, but one single fuck-for-money does not a whore make.

[Richard_smoker]

How to Detect Lies. Become a Lie Detector
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Introduction to Detecting Lies:
The following techniques to telling if someone is lying are used by police, and security experts. This knowledge is also useful for managers, employers, and for anyone to use in everyday situations where telling the truth from a lie can help prevent you from being a victim of fraud/scams and other deceptions.

Warning: Sometimes Ignorance is bliss; after gaining this knowledge, you may be hurt when it is obvious that someone is lying to you.

how to see a fake smile:





Body Language of Lies:
Physical expression will be limited and stiff, with few arm and hand movements. Hand, arm and leg movement are toward their own body the liar takes up less space.

A person who is lying to you will avoid making eye contact.

Hands touching their face, throat & mouth. Touching or scratching the nose or behind their ear. Not likely to touch his chest/heart with an open hand.

Emotional Gestures & Contradiction
Timing and duration of emotional gestures and emotions are off a normal pace. The display of emotion is delayed, stays longer it would naturally, then stops suddenly.

Timing is off between emotions gestures/expressions and words. Example: Someone says "I love it!" when receiving a gift, and then smile after making that statement, rather then at the same time the statement is made.

Gestures/expressions don’t match the verbal statement, such as frowning when saying “I love you.”

Expressions are limited to mouth movements when someone is faking emotions (like happy, surprised, sad, awe, )instead of the whole face. For example; when someone smiles naturally their whole face is involved: jaw/cheek movement, eyes and forehead push down, etc.
Interactions and Reactions

A guilty person gets defensive. An innocent person will often go on the offensive.

A liar is uncomfortable facing his questioner/accuser and may turn his head or body away.

A liar might unconsciously place objects (book, coffee cup, etc.) between themselves and you.


Body Language
Verbal Context and Content
A liar will use your words to make answer a question. When asked, “Did you eat the last cookie?” The liar answers, “No, I did not eat the last cookie.”

A statement with a contraction is more likely to be truthful: “ I didn't do it” instead of “I did not do it”

Liars sometimes avoid "lying" by not making direct statements. They imply answers instead of denying something directly.

The guilty person may speak more than natural, adding unnecessary details to convince you... they are not comfortable with silence or pauses in the conversation.

A liar may leave out pronouns and speak in a monotonous tone. When a truthful statement is made the pronoun is emphasized as much or more than the rest of the words in a statement.

Words may be garbled and spoken softly, and syntax and grammar may be off. In other words, his sentences will likely be muddled rather than emphasized.

Other signs of a lie:
If you believe someone is lying, then change subject of a conversation quickly, a liar follows along willingly and becomes more relaxed. The guilty wants the subject changed; an innocent person may be confused by the sudden change in topics and will want to back to the previous subject.

Using humor or sarcasm to avoid a subject.

Final Notes:
Obviously, just because someone exhibits one or more of these signs does not make them a liar. The above behaviors should be compared to a persons base (normal) behavior whenever possible.

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This material is an ultra-condensed version of info presented in the book, Never be Lied to Again. I think that buying and read the book would be a waste because it's just a looong version of this thread. I found the book to be long, difficult to follow, and chock-full of wasteful words and annoying stories. Plus, there's no eye-ball analysis in the book!

[Ho0k3d0nChRoNiC]

i have read alot about human lie detecting. My friend has been resrearching this for quite along time now. It sucks, because he can tell when i have clipped a little of his bud...he can instantly know if im lying..

what a doushe
haha

but that is quite informative..good work Richard.