how to convert pure amphetamin into a speed-stone?

[bitmonx]

swinm have a lot of pure amphetamin powder, he will convert it into a hard stone who contains 15%amphetamin,how can he do it??please help swim!!

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Threads asking how to cut stuff are not tolerated.People dont want ripping off

[bitmonx]

please help,swim!!!!!

[pumped3.16]

why do you even want to do it ?

[Xcrement1]

How come you're sure that it's pure? What way did swiy converted it to pure amphetamin powder?
And also like pumped3.16 said: what's swiy's purpose of cutting it up anyways? Except for the burning in the nose , but why do you want to convert it to only 15% pure? Selling purposes aren't good for this forum's legal state. If you cut it, only cut it with something like manitol and stick with only that. Make it 40-50% pure (or a little higher or lower, what swiy prefers) and swiy will have some very good speed. (as far as you can call it "good")...

[bitmonx]

ok swim try it!

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dont self incriminate!

[izzy31]

15%??? What a waste!!!

[bitmonx]

ok swim will do it for 50%

[researcher]

only lows cut.but form in a heavy bunch of bags plastic.wrap in foil ,tape around apply alot of pressure up to 24 or longer.it will do as you swiy wishes as long as not to much cut.good luck proably wasting time but,try.another way is rewash and then ball under pressure

[bitmonx]

it sounds nice for swim....

[Minipupill]

Originally Posted by Xcrement1

How come you're sure that it's pure? What way did swiy converted it to pure amphetamin powder?
And also like pumped3.16 said: what's swiy's purpose of cutting it up anyways? Except for the burning in the nose , but why do you want to convert it to only 15% pure? Selling purposes aren't good for this forum's legal state. If you cut it, only cut it with something like manitol and stick with only that. Make it 40-50% pure (or a little higher or lower, what swiy prefers) and swiy will have some very good speed. (as far as you can call it "good")...

so right .. so right ..100% pure amphetamine is liquid, can´t be dry .. against the physical law. best I´ve had was 78% and it was too strong for my taste

[researcher]

pure is not a liquid form like swiy is thinking.it must be cleaned and can not be cleaned proper in liquid.needs to grow,,fuel has to evaporate.100% is not unattainable but,wise for swiy not to have.swiy is not the friendly type nor to smart.where swim comes from cut will put swiy in worlds of hurt.how would swiy like to take a big ol'bunch of cut bull?sorry but swim will not help with that pure liquid form.swiy needs to stick to minithin.hate to insult but,swim hates cut!!!!if swiy wants rocko,,,,,,,,pressure works,pedal light,not cut.swim would rather go the price for light ,,,,instead of price for right with stomp

[dpayne]

Originally Posted by researcher

pure is not a liquid form like swiy is thinking.it must be cleaned and can not be cleaned proper in liquid.needs to grow,,fuel has to evaporate.100% is not unattainable but,wise for swiy not to have.swiy is not the friendly type nor to smart.where swim comes from cut will put swiy in worlds of hurt.how would swiy like to take a big ol'bunch of cut bull?sorry but swim will not help with that pure liquid form.swiy needs to stick to minithin.hate to insult but,swim hates cut!!!!if swiy wants rocko,,,,,,,,pressure works,pedal light,not cut.swim would rather go the price for light ,,,,instead of price for right with stomp

Im no real expert on this but from my learnings and "UTFS" pure is a liquid and when made into a salt (acidfied maybe) it works out to 78%ish like minipull stated below as being the best he has tried in a powder form (pretty much making it the best anyone can).

Stuff in my neck of the woods would of been cut with caffiene or msm id never heard of mannitol, probably that to after reading up on it just now. Its actually addmistered to help with bad coughs through a vapouriser lol

G-clamps from a hardware store and a suitable stanless steel canister of some sort create alot of compression or vacume sealed bags also have a similar effect.

[fiveleggedrat]

Are we seriously fucking educating on how to cut? Can someone come up with a actual educational reason to explain how?

If you can't figure out how to cut something, you should not be doing drugs, much less be alive.

[Raz]

In salt form the melting point of amphetamine (sulphate/hydrochloride) is 280–281 C, so it's not an oil but a solid. The HCL form is rarely seen because it's said to be extremely hygroscopic (attracts water). (Meth)Amphetamine freebase on the other hand is an oil.

[bitmonx]

hey raz really nice information, but swim asks over and over again is it possible to make from Every amphetamin base the sulfate?- for example: instead of tma2-hcl the tma2-sulfate?

bitmonx added 6 Minutes and 8 Seconds later...

swim researched that a speed-stone is formed, if swiy use a mix from amphetamin sulfate and calcium sulfate and a little bit of water, form a stone and let it dry!

[dpayne]

Originally Posted by bitmonx

hey raz really nice information, but swim asks over and over again is it possible to make from Every amphetamin base the sulfate?- for example: instead of tma2-hcl the tma2-sulfate?

bitmonx added 6 Minutes and 8 Seconds later...

swim researched that a speed-stone is formed, if swiy use a mix from amphetamin sulfate and calcium sulfate and a little bit of water, form a stone and let it dry!

You got to be joking yea? Punch swim in the head for me when you see him next. Why not just get a litle bit of cement and amp sulfate add a litle water form a stone and let it dry! That would be one hard fucken rock...............

Each there own but theres one thing "rocking" something and then theres another cutting and "re-rocking" with substances like calcium sulfate.

Makes my blood boil and mind wonder are all the stories about what drugs are really cut with actually maybe true when I read posts like this.
PRESURE APPLY PRESSURE!!!!!!!! Fuck research how pills are made and apply if your so set on having rocks.

[bitmonx]

cool down brother!! swim read it, a laboratory analysed speed, and it consisted out of 15% amph, 40% milkshugar, 45% calciumsulfate!!!

[dpayne]

Might of been more informative to of posted all of that instead of this is how u make a speed stone. wtf is milk sugar? lactose?

And then yet again makes ones mind wonder as to what is used to cut drugs etc

Believe a "lab report" from a court case used against someone being charged, anything other than that is only a lab report and swim could purposely create the "speed" to be tested and then the lab report would find what ever swim had decided to put in it. Not that this could not of been legitimet and its wats going on everyday who knows but a)dont believe everything u read and b)take a moment to think what information posted about forming a speed stone could result in when posting such things, becuase from what was stated would really be better left unsaid if it really is what is going on in some dodgy ghettos.

Like it was stated earlier anyone not being able to work out how to cut shouldnt be doing drugs, muchless alive lmao well said fivelegged rat.

Rock doesnt represent quality and 15% ampth rocked would be absolute dirt especially cut this way. Anyone selling it would be better off crushung it into a powder to save themselves the embarasement.

[bitmonx]

yes you are absolute right , itr was only postet for information, and not for: how to cut drugs!!!

15% amphetamin is in the county where i live standard ;-((

milk sugar is lactose!

lets details discuss with PM

[fiveleggedrat]

You can cut any substance with anything that matches it's physical appearance, and use compression to make it more solid.

That should be EVERYTHING you need to know.

There is no reason in asking how to take pure product it make it anything less, unless there are recreational or medicinal reasons.

[dpayne]

Originally Posted by fiveleggedrat

You can cut any substance with anything that matches it's physical appearance, and use compression to make it more solid.

That should be EVERYTHING you need to know.

There is no reason in asking how to take pure product it make it anything less, unless there are recreational or medicinal reasons.

Interesting you point out medicinal reasons, could cutting be looked apon as harm reduction? Theoreticaly wouldnt a cut of say 50% amp 50% caffiene for instance be a "safer" product for users than a 60% amp 40% glucose product? Or by the time swim is ready to enter into the world of controled substances he should be able to source pure gear and dose accordingly? Swims always wondered if cuts are doing a user a favour from a medical perspective or if some cuts seen as clean when railed for instance are clean but when smoked x amount of cutting agent it produce worth adverse effects than if one were to of smoke pure.....
When swim used to dream about using such products he wonderd what the world would be like if there was no cut at all.....
Some would be scared off at first experiance, others snow balled into hell and probably alot less bitch fights lol

Morally swim doesnt become angry at clean cuts as a buyer always has a choice, its when one reads in newspapers about some of the lowest and filthiest things one can imagine and unhealthy to say the least that his blood boils and is really put off the whole idea of consuming such things.

Why not make it commom knowledge how to identify or remove nasty cuts or even the clean ones? Or identify how easily one can be decieved by a "rocked" product becuase under pressure most substances bind together.

Possibly a thread with the direction of identifying myths, propaganda and highly dangerous yet REALLY HAPPENING nasty adulterants and how to identify such things when railed, tasted, smoked or washed in substance X and Y etc. The information is definetally floating around at various points, but never clear and precise to a newbee. Ie if all the tricks previously mentioned in this thread would be removed with an anhydrous acetone wash? msm, caffiene, sugar, calcium sulphate etc or if once substance x is binded into the mix its permanent and should be avoided at all costs.

[fiveleggedrat]

The biggest problem is that there are hundreds if not thousands of possible cuts, literally. Putting them all in a list would be too difficult to really be of use.

The "safe" cuts are ones used by the pharm industry, eg, pill fillers. Orally, of course. It is dangerous to smoke/IV/etc anything but pure substances, generally.

Cutting is just, plain, bad.

Things that would NEED to be cut to be safe (EG, fentanyl, DOx's, LSD, etc) do not appear in pure form often on the streets, if ever.

[bitmonx]

have swiy ever tested to snort pure amphetamin??it hurts and the problem is you will probably overdose it!

[dpayne]

Swim first ever experiance with amp was given bag a containing amp bag b containing glucose and told the glucose with dry it out and help with the burning up the nose.

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nice to discuss with swiy!!!

[bitmonx]

the shit who burns swiys nose is the amph and not the glucose!if you snort concentrated amph it will burn youre nose to hell and back!