France

[sauvage]

Movin' to France soon. Anyone got any idea of the legal situation there, especially with regards to GHB/GBL .

[freakybass]

Here is the list of controlled substances in France:</span></font>





List 1:</font>

Acétorphine

Acétylalphaméthylfentanyl

Acétylméthadol

Alfentanil

Allylprodine

Alphacétylméthadol

Alphaméprodine

Alphaméthadol

Alphaméthylfentanyl

Alpha-méthylthiofentanyl

Alphaprodine

Aniléridine

Benzéthidine

Benzylmorphine

Béta-hydroxyfentanyl

Béta-hydroxy-méthyl-3-fentanyl

Bétacétylméthadol

Bétaméprodine

Bétaméthadol

Bétaprodine

Bezitramide

Butyrate de dioxaphétyl

Cannabis et résine de cannabis

Cétobémidone

Clonitazène

Coca, feuille de

Cocaïne

Codoxime

Concentré de paille de pavot,



ou matière obtenue lorsque la paille de pavot a subi
un traitement en vue de la concentration de ses alcaloïdes (capsules,
tiges)

Désomorphine

Dextromoramide

Diampromide

Diéthylthiambutène

Difénoxine

Dihydroétorphine (13)

Dihydromorphine

Diménoxadol

Dimépheptanol

Diméthylthiambutène

Diphénoxylate,



à l'exception des préparations orales en renfermant
par dose unitaire, une quantité maximale de 2,5 mg calculés en base en
association avec une quantité d'au moins 0,025 mg de sulfate d'atropine

Dipipanone

Drotébanol

Ecgonine,



ses esters et ses dérivés transformables en ecgonine et cocaïne

Ethylméthylthiambutène

Etonitazène

Etorphine

Etoxéridine

Fentanyl

Furéthidine

Héroïne

Hydrocodone

Hydromorphinol

Hydromorphone

Hydroxypéthidine

Isométhadone

Lévométhorphane,



à l'exception de son isomère dextrogyre ou dextrométhorphane

Lévomoramide

Lévophénacylmorphane

Lévorphanol,



à l'exception de son isomère dextrogyre ou dextrorphane

Métazocine

Méthadone



et son intermédiaire ou cyano-4 diméthylamino-2 diphényl-4,4 butane

Méthyldésorphine

Méthyldihydromorphine

Méthyl-3-thiofentanyl

Méthyl-3-fentanyl

Métopon

Moramide (intermédiaire du)



ou acide méthyl-2 morpholino-3 diphényl-1,1 propane carboxylique

Morphéridine

Morphine



(y compris les préparations d'opium en renfermant
plus de 20 p. 100 exprimé en base anhydre et les dérivés morphiniques à
azote pentavalent tel méthobromure, N-oxymorphine, N-oxycodéine), à
l'exception des éthers nommément mentionnés à l'annexe II et des
préparations relevant d'un autre classement

MPPP



ou propionate de méthyl-1 phényl-4 pipéridinyle-4

Myrophine

Nicomorphine

Noracyméthadol

Norlévorphanol

Norméthadone

Normorphine

Norpipanone

Opium



(y compris les préparations d'opium et de papaver
somniferum renfermant jusqu'à 20 p. 100 de morphine calculée en base
anhydre, à l'exception des préparations relevant d'un autre classement)

Oxycodone

Oxymorphone

Para-fluorofentanyl

PEPAP



ou acétate de phénéthyl-1 phényl-4 pipéridinyle-4

Péthidine



et ses intermédiaires A (cyano-4 méthyl-1 phényl-4
pipéridine) B (ester éthylique de l'acide phényl-4 pipéridine
carboxylique-4) et C (acide méthyl-1 phényl-4 pipéridine carboxylique-4)

Phénadoxone

Phénampromide

Phénazocine

Phénomorphane

Phénopéridine

Piminodine

Piritramide

Proheptazine

Propéridine

Racéméthorphane

Racémoramide

Racémorphane

Rémifentanil,



ses isomères, ses esters, éthers et sels dans tous les cas où ils peuvent exister (13)

Sufentanil

Thébacone

Thébaïne

Thiofentanyl

Tilidine

Trimépéridine





List 2:</font>

Acétyldihydrocodéine

Codéine

Dextropropoxyphène

et ses préparations injectables

Dihydrocodéine

Ethylmorphine

Nicocodine

Nicodicodine

Norcodéine

Pholcodine

Propiram



List 3:</font>

2-CB ou 4-bromo-2,5 diméthoxyphénéthylamine (8)

4-MTA ou alpha-méthyl-4-méthylthiophénéthylamine (8)

Amphétamine,(21)

à l'exception de la préparation présentée en
comprimés et renfermant par comprimé : sulfate d'amphétamine 0,005 g,
phénobarbital 0,100 g

Amineptine, (21)

Benzphétamine,

à l'exception de ses préparations autres qu'injectables

*Brolamfétamine

*Cathinone

*DET ou N,N-diéthyltryptamine

Dexamfétamine

*DMA ou dl-diméthoxy-2,5

α-méthylphényléthylamine

*DMHP ou hydroxy-1 (diméthyl-1,2

heptyl)-3 tétrahydro-7,8,9,10

triméthyl-6,6,9 6H-dibenzo(b,d) pyranne

*DMT ou N,N-diméthyltryptamine

*DOET ou dl-diméthoxy-2,5

éthyl-4α-méthylphényléthylamine

*Eticyclidine ou PCE

Etilamfétamine

*Etryptamine (3)

Fénétylline

GHB ou acide gamma-hydroxybutyrique,

à l'exception des préparations injectables (8)

Levamfétamine

Lévométhamphétamine

*Lysergide ou LSD-25

*MDMA ou dl N, α-diméthyl

(méthylènedioxy)-3,4 phényléthylamine

Mécloqualone

*Mescaline

*Methcathinone (3)

*MMDA ou méthoxy-2 α -méthyl

(méthylènedioxy)-4,5 phényléthylamine

Méfénorex et ses sels,

à l'exception des préparations autres qu'injectables

Méthamphétamine et son racémate

Méthaqualone

Méthylphénidate

*Méthyl-4 aminorex

*N-hydroxyténamfétamine

*N-éthylténamphétamine (MDEA)

*Parahexyl

Pentazocine

Phencyclidine

Phendimétrazine

Phenmétrazine

Phentermine,

à l'exception des préparations autres qu'injectables

*PMA ou p-méthoxy α-méthylphényléthylamine

*Psilocine

*Psilocybine

Pyrovalérone,

à l'exception des préparations relevant de la

liste I

*Rolicyclidine ou PHP ou PCPY

Sécobarbital

*STP ou DOM ou amino-2(diméthoxy-2,5

méthyl-4)phényl-1 propane

*Tenamfétamine ou MDA

*Ténocyclidine ou TCP

*TMA ou dl-triméthoxy-3,4,5 α-méthylphényléthylamine

Zipéprol (3)



List 4:</span></font>

2-CI (22)

2-CT-2 ou 2,5-diméthoxy-4-éthylthiophényléthylamine (19)

2-CT-7 ou 2,5-diméthoxy-4-(n)-propyl-thiophényléthylamine (20)

Acide lysergique, ses dérivés halogènés, et leurs sels

Amfépentorex et ses sels, à l'exception de leurs préparations autres qu'injectables

Béta hydroxy alpha, béta-diphényléthylamine, ses isomères, esters, éthers et leurs sels

Champignons hallucinogènes, notamment des genres stropharia, conocybes et psilocybe

Chlorphentermine et ses sels, à l'exception de leurs préparations autres qu'injectables

Fenbutrazate et ses sels

Kétamine et ses sels, à l'exception de leurs préparations injectables (7)

Khat (feuilles de Catha edulis, Celastracées) (2)

Lévophacétopérane et ses sels

MBDB ou N-méthyl-1-(3,4- méthylènedioxyphényl)-2-butanamine et ses sels dans tous les cas où ils peuvent exister (6)

Nabilone et ses sels dans tous les cas où ils peuvent exister (9)

Pentorex et ses sels, à l'exception de leurs préparations autres qu'injectables

Peyotl ou peyote, ses principes actifs et leurs composés naturels et synthétiques autres que la mescaline (23)

Phénylacétone ou phényl-1 propanone-2

PMMA ou paraméthoxyméthamphétamine (15)

Tétrahydrocannabinols, leurs esters, éthers, sels ainsi que les sels des dérivés précités

Tilétamine et ses sels, à l'exception de leurs préparations injectables (17)

TMA-2 ou 2,4,5-triméthoxyamphétamine (18)

[freakybass]

GHB is stricly illegal.

I don't find any infomation about the status of the GBL, I think it's watched.



If someone need a translation about one of the substances above, ask me...

[lolomgwtfbbq]

Which "list" is the legal stuff?</font>

[freakybass]

Every substances notified are illegal.

[lolomgwtfbbq]

Do you know what is available over-the-counter in France?

I'm wondering about Paris & Albi.

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[freakybass]

France is very prohibitory. It seems that some "designer-drugs" is not covered yet by the law.
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If you looking for some legal psychoactives substances, there is
almost nothing, put aside tobacco and alcohol (an enormous choice).


You can find some french botanical shop which sell some "Salvia" and some "San pedro", but it's not popular.


Of course, there are some OTC medecine wich contains DXM, pseudo-ephedrine... Like everywhere.

[lolomgwtfbbq]

What's the legal age to buy cigarettes and alcohol?

Hahaha sorry I keep asking things but I'm visiting this spring and haven't been able to find information anywhere.

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[VincentVan]

<LABEL id=HbSession SessionId="2748468320">hahaha the "list of the legal stuff" Really it´s a good one.</LABEL>


<LABEL SessionId="2748468320">I think in a real democracy some governament agency should publish it.</LABEL>


<LABEL SessionId="2748468320">Do not worry , in France you yank will feel like the proverbial child in the candy store. If you tell me in what city you are going to stay I will try to be more informative without attracting the wrath of Alfa.</LABEL>


<LABEL SessionId="2748468320"> </LABEL>


<LABEL SessionId="2748468320"> "Death be not proud - Though some called Thee mighty and dreadful - Thou are not so."</LABEL>

[freakybass]

Alcohol to buy in the supermarket you have to be 18 year old or older.

I'm not sure, but I think you can buy some beer in the bar since you are 16 years old.

To buy cigarrette you have to be 16 years old.



Note: The RedBull® is forbidden in France.

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[VincentVan]

<LABEL id=HbSession SessionId="756951356">I know for experience that these rules are seldom respected and hardly ever enforced.</LABEL>


<LABEL SessionId="756951356">Most french parents send their kids to the local store to buy smokes , booze and their daily supply of heavy pornography. By the way my mother was french. But she was different.</LABEL>

[Hyperreal]

Absinthe is widely available - with thujone

[manda]

This is 7 years ago- I wanted to find you something!!! Going to make one more check. By the way, have fun in France!!!! What a cool oppurtunity. Do you speak the lanuage??

U.S. Department of State
1997 International Narcotics Control Strategy Report, March 1998
United States Department of State
Bureau for International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs

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Europe and Central Asia
FRANCE
I. Summary
France is an important transit country to other European countries, particularly for narcotics originating in Northern Africa, Southwest Asia and the Middle East. Heroin continues to be of primary concern to French law enforcement officials. French officials are also concerned about the increase in domestic consumption, trafficking, and transit through France of cocaine and ecstasy, as well as the increasing use of cannabis by 14-18 year olds.

No new narcotic legislation was passed in 1997. The enhanced drug control measures passed in 1996 on money laundering, asset seizure and banking reporting laws have made it easier for French officials to prosecute crimes related to money laundering. France is a party to the 1988 UN Drug Convention.

II. Status of Country
French government narcotics data for 1996, released in the Spring of 1997 (narcotics data for 1997 will be released in April of 1998), show that arrests for trafficking in heroin (3,451) and cannabis (3,927) remain significantly greater than for any other drug. In 1996, there was a 15.78 percent decrease in the number of arrests for heroin use/resale (14,618 arrests in 1996 down from 17,356 in 1995). According to French statistics, heroin use in France is on the decline for the first time in 20 years. There was a dramatic increase (60.5 percent) in arrests for trafficking in cocaine from 449 in 1995 to 721 in 1996. Cannabis is the most widely abused drug in France. French officials estimate there are 1 million habitual users of marijuana, 200,000-300,000 heroin addicts, 500,000 cocaine users, and thousands of mostly young people experimenting with ecstasy in France.

III. Country Actions Against Drugs in 1997
Agreements and Treaties. France is a party to the 1988 UN Drug Convention. It is a party to the 1961 UN Single Convention and its 1972 Protocol, as well as the 1971 UN Convention on Psychotropic Substances. The USG and the GOF have narcotics-related agreements, including a 1971 Agreement on Coordinating Action Against Illicit Trafficking. The US and France signed in 1996 a new and strengthened Extradition Treaty--the first since 1909, which is currently awaiting advice and consent to ratification by the US Senate. Though French law does not permit the extradition of French citizens, the GOF prosecutes its nationals domestically for crimes committed elsewhere which are covered under the Treaty.

The USG has concluded a Customs Mutual Assistance Agreement (CMAA) with the Government of France. French officials participate in international drug control fora, including UNDCP, the Financial Action Task Force (FATF), and the Dublin Group. France pledged 8 million Francs ($1.3 million) in voluntary contributions above its regular assessment to the UNDCP during the year. The Foreign Ministry's Office of Security Affairs, which monitors terrorism, organized crime, narcotics and money laundering, participated actively in international drug control efforts during the year.

Law Enforcement Efforts. French counternarcotics authorities are efficient and effective. Approximately 55 percent of the heroin seized in France was destined for domestic users in 1996. Heroin seizures in that year increased by 23.79 percent (617 kilograms), by 58.17 percent for cannabis (66,860 kilograms), and by 101.42 percent for cocaine (1,742 kilograms). (This sharp increase was due in part to two significant cocaine seizures in the Caribbean territories of St. Martin (300 kilograms) and St. Barthelemy (863.299 kilograms). In August 1997, a Paris judge closed down five popular Paris nightclubs where police observed ecstasy and cocaine being sold openly. The traffic and abuse of ecstasy in France is becoming a serious problem (32 arrests in 1990 up to 1,179 in 1996).

Corruption. Narcotics-related corruption among French public officials is not a problem. The USG is not aware of any involvement by senior officials in the production or distribution of drugs, or in the laundering of drug proceeds.

Drug Flow/Transit. France is an important transshipment point for illicit drugs, especially heroin to other European countries. 81 percent of heroin originating in southwest Asia and 11 percent of heroin originating in southeast Asia is shipped from The Netherlands, Belgium, or Turkey into the French domestic market and then transshipped to other European markets or, in some instances, North America. However, the USG has no evidence that drugs transiting France have a significant effect on the US. France is also a significant transit route for Moroccan and southwest Asian hashish destined for European markets and for South American cocaine (77 percent Colombian) destined for Central and Eastern Europe. A transit route for West African cocaine seems to be developing in France.

Cultivation/Production. French authorities believe the manufacture and cultivation of illicit drugs is not a problem in France.

France produces amphetamines and reports its production to the International Narcotics Control Board (INCB). France cooperates with the DEA to monitor and control these products.

Demand Reduction. France's drug control agency, the Mission Interministerielle de Lutte Contre la Drogue et la Toxicomanie (MILDT), is responsible for coordinating demand reduction programs. Drug education efforts target government officials, counselors, teachers, and medical personnel. The GOF is expanding its experimental methadone treatment program. France is a strong advocate in Europe opposing drug decriminalization.

IV. US Policy Initiatives and Programs
Bilateral Cooperation. USG and GOF counternarcotics law enforcement cooperation is excellent. The French police participate in USG-sponsored money laundering courses and in specialized narcotics training courses.

The Road Ahead. The US will continue its cooperation with France on all counternarcotics fronts, including in multilateral fora such as the Dublin Group and UNDCP. The USG still hopes to conclude a bilateral maritime agreement for the Caribbean with France. French police and DEA officers continue to work well together.

[manda]

Consumption of tobacco, alcohol and drugs

Smoking is prohibited in public places (museums, monuments, cinemas…) or on public transport. Restaurants are divided into smoking and non-smoking areas.
Any driver under the influence of alcohol seriously compromises the safety of passengers and other road users.
As a result, driving with a level of alcohol in the blood equal to or higher than 0.5g per liter of blood (instead of 0.7g before September 15, 1995) is prohibited.
The police and gendarmerie can test for alcohol levels in a driver's blood test.
It is prohibited to travel (even on foot) under the influence of alcohol along a public place.
Anyone who allows a minor to drink until they are in a state of drunkenness is committing a crime.
It is prohibited to sell or offer alcoholic drinks to minors aged under 16 years old (in drinks outlets, shops and public places).
According to the law of 10 January 1991 it is prohibited to introduce alcoholic drinks into establishments for physical and sporting activities.
The use of drugs and bringing them into France is strictly forbidden, including "soft" drugs.


I found you a touristy site: www.franceguide.com/us

I really tried to get better info. for you, but I didn't want to dedicate all my time to one post. I really hope you enjoy your experience!!!



Edited by: manda

[lolomgwtfbbq]

Does anyone who lives in France know if it's generally
accepted to smoke cigarettes in public if you look about 16? And will
people sell them to you?</font>

[manda]

I know you can drink at 16 there. It would be mighty weird if you could drink, but not smoke.

[VincentVan]

<LABEL id=HbSession SessionId="3678743985">sorry about that guys</LABEL>


<LABEL SessionId="3678743985">do not worry Lolom.. </LABEL>


<LABEL SessionId="3678743985">Nobody is going to bother you if you smoke in parks ,streets or wherever it´s not explicitally forbiden (like hospitals , museums, some restaurants and cafés, but not all. etc.) If you don´t look like a toddler it will not be a problem to buy beers. My mom was french and I often go there. I have even been some years in a boarding school in France. But tell me : in what area, what city are you going to stay ? People and their attitude are extremely different in Bretagne(north) or Provence (south) , in Normandy or in Paris. It depends. It always depends on something. </LABEL>


<LABEL SessionId="3678743985">Anyway. Bon voyage.</LABEL>


<LABEL SessionId="3678743985">Oh , and Paris is not anymore the same Henry Miller wrote about . Unfortunally. But take with you one of his parisians books. Like "tropic of Cancer" or "Tropic of Capricorn" or "nexus" & "Plexus" or "A devil in paradise". In Paris is very "in " to carry a "bouquin dans la poche".</LABEL>


<LABEL SessionId="3678743985"> So long.</LABEL>

[lolomgwtfbbq]

I'm going to be in Paris for a few days and then in Albi which is in the south, I think.</font>

[manda]

Oh man, South France. Don't mention near water... Don't you even... Actually, enjoy it for me too- hope if you're near water it's warm.

And please post here, let us know what it's like, I mean, the laws, the beaches, the people, whatever is cool.

[lolomgwtfbbq]

I won't be near water, I'm just doing an exchange
student thing over spring break and stopping by Paris for a few days
before.</font>

[VincentVan]

<LABEL id=HbSession SessionId="1847953151">Albi is a little , beautiful , sleepy provincial town. Not much of a scene I´m afraid.</LABEL>


<LABEL SessionId="1847953151">Paris is another planet.SWIM wouldgive you some adresses but he´s not sure it´s aloud.</LABEL>


<LABEL SessionId="1847953151">Is it?</LABEL>

[lolomgwtfbbq]

I think that'd be restricted to the sources forum and/or possibly illegal.



My main concern is just buying cigarettes. They don't card or anything, right?

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[VincentVan]

<LABEL id=HbSession SessionId="1917220380">Baby </LABEL>


<LABEL SessionId="1917220380">You´re talking about the land of "Gauloises" and "Gitanes papier mais", </LABEL>


<LABEL SessionId="1917220380">existentialism , and "vie de cafe´". Card? C´m on.</LABEL>

[psilo]

hello guys


I m french and i can say you will have no problems to buy cigarettes. Normally you have to be 16 year to buy cigarette , but in fact they sell them to anyone ( when i was 12 , i was buying cigarettes).


for the alcohol....in supermarket you can easily buy it ...they dont often ask for your age...unless you look 12 years old


bye...


bon voyage en france

[sauvage]

What the fuck did I start here.
Fags are no problem but getting more expensive all the time.In the south east the kids are allowed to smoke at school but not rollups just in case the're joints.