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Beta-Ketones Mephedrone, Methylone, Butylone, Methedrone, Ethcathinone, 3-fluoroMethCathinone (3FMC), Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV)

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Old 27-06-2011, 16:20
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MDPBP and MDPPP as the next MDPV replacements?

The pharmacological similarities are very subtle (shortened chain) that one would have a hard time NOT to notice the subtle differences.

Wonder how it compares in effects to MDPV itself? Stronger? Weaker? Better ot worse?

What do ya'll other SWIMMERS think?

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Re: MDPBP and MDPPP as the next MDPV replacements?

Can they still be classed as a cathinone derivative like MDPV is ? Therefore be a class B drug in the UK ? or not ?
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Old 27-06-2011, 16:55
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Re: MDPBP and MDPPP as the next MDPV replacements?

Yes I would assume so seeing as how they look almost EXACTLY alike.

I tried to attach, post, andeven link the damn pictures of each molecule I drew for you all but the forums just wouldn't let me do it. Wouldn't even allow me to post links to Wikipedia (yes I read the reason why for the latter). But after 15+ tries I just gave up.

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Old 27-06-2011, 17:10
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Re: MDPBP and MDPPP as the next MDPV replacements?

As you have already read the reasons that Wikipedia hotlinks are discouraged please do not just direct people there anyway. Wikipedia is a dynamic resource; the content of the articles you link to may change or even disappear, which would render this thread useless to future readers. If there is content on Wikipedia that is highly relevant to the discussion then please present it in the thread.

Same applies to hotlinking images from other sites. Hotlinks are unstable and go dead with time. If you have images that are relevant to the discussion then please upload them onto Drugs-Forum either in the Image Gallery, a personal folder on your profile page, or as an attachment to your post. Schematics of the structures of these compounds can already be found in their respective drug info threads, and these can be found using the forum search engine or the research chemical index stickied at the top of each research chemical sub-forum.

Back on topic: yes, all of the compounds named above are class B controlled substances in the UK under the clause on cathinone derivatives. The clause makes provision for alpha-alkyl chains of varying length.

As for whether any of these substances are a replacement for anything (and God forbid they should be viewed as compounds in their own right rather than as a substitute for X, Y or Z).. time will tell. There is currently very little information regarding human use of these substances out there, so it seems premature to draw any conclusions about their respective merits and detractions.

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Old 29-06-2011, 04:09
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Re: MDPBP and MDPPP as the next MDPV replacements?

My gremlin buddy Bob has done some research on a replacement of MDPV. He even went as far as to get shipped to him what a supplier called PV-2 a.k.a. m-PPP.

GremBob growled in discomfort when first studying the chemical for his ROA was insufflation and it burnt Bob's nose quite a bit. He said after trying it a few dozen times it seems to be not so bad. But also added, those dozen times or so are pretty painful.
Besides that GremBob said that it had a decent taste going back and that the over-all feel was something new. Slightly comparable to MDPV, but the euphoria was different and not in a bad way. He said even though he was happy to study the material that he was not going to continue his research on MDPV replacements in the lab due to the fact that it is time consuming and he is far too busy.
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Old 29-06-2011, 16:27
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Re: MDPBP and MDPPP as the next MDPV replacements?

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...called PV-2 a.k.a. m-PPP. ...
Presumably: MPPP
4'-Methyl-α-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

MPPP Drug info ( 4'-Methyl-α-pyrrolidinopropiophenone )

MPPP ( 4'-Methyl-α-pyrrolidinopropiophenone) experience reports

I am closing this thread before it becomes to jumbled- please carry on any appropriate discussion in the relevant threads for the specific substances.
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