Opinions - Klonopin (Clonazepam) vs Xanax (Alprazolam)

[powderhead55]

SWIM had a real bad experience with xanax a while back and is a lil shy of goin back to any benzo's. Now this wasnt his first benzo, its not first time ruin, SWIM has taken valium many times before and been fine, its just that this one time was intense.

SWIM ate like 3 bars (2mg xanax in each) and cant remember a majority of the two days after. He knows he didnt black out cuz he remembers being there and controlling everything, but just cant remember what happened. Like he knows he had control of the situation, just cant remember the situation. Like in his American Lit class they watched a documentary which took 2 class periods. Went in on the 3rd day after he took the bars and failed miserably cuz he doesnt remember watchin it.

Now my final question.... are k-pins as strong as xanax? did SWIM just take too much and will a smaller dose be better? note he likes to stay in control when using any drug, loss of control or memory is terrifying to him.

[DrMuffy]

clonazepam (klonopin, k-pins) are basically as strong as xanax when it is compared dose to dose. For recreational purposes, many people prefer xanax, but some prefer k-pins. They are both benzos and cause very simarlar effects. Clonazepam has a very long half life though unlike alprazolam (xanax) so that can be good or bad. K-pins might make you black out if xanax did, but there is a lesser chance of it doing so. It depends on the dosage and what SWIY ingests before and after, so be careful no matter what benzo SWIY takes because they can cause blackouts!

[Jatelka]

^^^ Next time why doesn't SWIY elaborate a bit? There is a sticky poll at the top of this forum fo voting for favourite benzo and posting reasons why.

See here...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14062

Given the number of people viewing this forum SWIJ is always amazed that more haven't voted!

[Morphium]

Both are are potent, but K-pins seem to always have a more profound effect on me. Xanax is a little more chill, Klonopin just kicks your ass.

[Sickpup]

SWIM has never heard of 6mg of xanax causing that effect,unless there was alcohol involved,even 1-2 shots,beers,SWIM says will/can cause that effect.SWIM says once in that condition you may also have taken other stuff you don't remember doing.

[DrMuffy]

6 mg of xanax will cause blackouts in alot of people. Some people who are hypersensitive or dont have a tolerance to benzos even get blackouts in as little as 1 mg.

[Sickpup]

OP did say OP had been on benzos before,perhaps not taking a triple dose might help avoid a 2 day blackout.

[biggpri]

it depends on what one's intention is. clonazepam is better when you just want to take something during the day to ease your anxiety. it's not as heavy and doesn't make you pass out in your seat. if, on the other hand, one needs a downer to soften a cocaine comedown and pass out, xanax is superior.

[Matt The Funk]

SWIM just switched to clonazepam a few days ago for anxiety, instead of alprazolam. The clonazepam relieves his anxiety great, and he is glad he has it, plus he doesn't feel the need to abuse it. While on xanax, he would abuse and triple or quadruple his dose 2-3 times a week. He's glad he got switched, although his doctor wants to put him back on an SSRI(waiting while he is on a mood stabilizer). Anyways, the klonopin works very well, and he believes .25mgK > .5mgX

[Dreamland]

SWIM's doctor just switched his prescription from klonipin to xanax. SWIM found klonipin to be helpful for occasionall anxeity and just to cillout, and relax on a nice day and watch T.V. n stuff. SWIM requested an increase on dosage but the doctor just recently switched his scripted to xanax. SWIM is just curious is xanax stronger then klonopin?

SWIM only uses benzo's once in a while like and not everday so tolerance is low.

[Matt The Funk]

SWIM finds clonazepam(klonopin) to be FAR SURPERIOR to treating everyday anxiety, while alprazolam(xanax) is good for every once in a while anxiety. The thing about xanax is SWIM quickly started abusing it and had a small on/off relationship with abusing it that would result in physical pain and and bad drawback anxiety. However alprazolam is a short acting benzo and the effects seem to be far more euphoric, but swim doesn't think it's any stronger. While clonazepam is a long acting benzo with a long half-life, it's not all that euphoric to SWIM but it does relieve his horrible anxiety. But SWIM would say try .5 less of xanax than what SWIY would take for klonopin, and up the dosage if SWIY isn't where he/she wants to be.

[Jatelka]

Please always include the chemical name of pharmaceutical drugs in your posts.

This can be easily obtained from Google or other search engine.

Doing so will avoid confusion on this international forum. Thank you.

[purplehaze]

Swim prefers klonopin over xanax anyday, klonopin mix's very well with swims chemistry and makes him have a positive outlook on life and as a result he feels really good. You can't hardly piss swim off when hes on klonopins things just dont matter that much to him, he will keep trying untill something works and if he cant get something to work its never a big deal to him.


Xanax doesn't always "work" with swim, most of the time swim doesn't even feel like he has taken anything other than being slightly hungry and heavily tired.
Xanax has made swim black out and forget days at a time, but swim just hasnt ever gotten that much pleasure from taking them. He was prescribed them for a good while, they helped stress at work but never to a serious level, swim eventually decided to quite paying for them so he stoped. Addiction oddly never set in when he quite taking them, probably because he would take the whole script the first 3 days and then do without, klonopin makes life so much easier for swim. But swim has decided not to take any benzo's because of addiction.

Xanax can be fun, but...
Swims vote definately goes for klonopine.

[poptilyoudrop]

After a couple months of taking orange (.5mg) pills of alprazolam(xanax), My doctor has switched my prescription to .5mg pills of clonazepam(klonipin).

What is the difference between the two benzodiazepines, in terms of effect, time to kick in, strength?

Also,

Would one suggest ever mixing these two benzodiazepines?

Thank You!!

[rex24u]

Personally I think xanax is stronger but I prefer klonopin over it. It has a diff feeling to it, ore of a body high as well. I prefer the 2mg klonopin though

[Matt The Funk]

Originally Posted by poptilyoudrop

After a couple months of taking orange (.5mg) pills of alprazolam(xanax), My doctor has switched my prescription to .5mg pills of clonazepam(klonipin).

What is the difference between the two benzodiazepines, in terms of effect, time to kick in, strength?

Also,

Would one suggest ever mixing these two benzodiazepines?

Thank You!!

SWIM mixes downers a lot, along with uppers too. But in particular benzo's since he has a prescription and can get them for VERY CHEAP. Anyways SWIM mixes them. Never mixed them alone that ha can re-call but he takes them for the immediate effects of the alprazolam and the steady effects of clonazepam

[Jatelka]

Threads merged

[Laudaphun]

SWIM is trying to figure this clonazepam vs. alprazolam debate out for himself. Strangely enough, SWIM has been taking alprazolam off and on most of her life. Alprazolam was actually the first controlled substance SWIM consumed.
So anyways, SWIM currently has ample supplies of alprazolam, temazepam, chlordiazepoxide, and now clonazepam. For a long time, SWIM took temazepam which turned out not suitable for daily use as tolerance occurs after only a few days. SWIM started taking less temazepam and replacing it with 2mg alprazolam in the evening for the same purpose as the temazepam was used for. SWIM found that a single daily dose of 2mg alprazolam did not create tolerance as did the temazepam. Out of nowhere, on a dr. visit, SWIM dr. changed her meds to clonazepam in place of chlordiazepoxide. While SWIM has taken gobs and gobs of alprazolam over the past 13 years, only twice has she taken clonazepam. Each experience was a single 1mg dose fo clonazepam. So, suddenly SWIM found herself with a script for clonazepam 3mg/day. This should be a higher dose than her typical single,daily dose of 2mg alprazolam? So now, SWIM has a script for clonazepam but has never tried it, except 2 previous occasions. First experience, swim recalls that a single pill insufflated had a pretty familiar benzo-type feeling, however that was so long ago that SWIM cannot recall much more of the experience. In the second and more recent experience, SWIM had been taking a single daily dose of 2mg alprazolam each evening. Someone had given SWIM a 1mg clonazepam pill to try and one afternoon, SWIM was experiencing sudden acute anxiety. SWIM didn't want to take a 2mg alprazolam tablet that early in the day as it typically results in pretty strong benzo effects. SWIM decided that this would be a good test for the clonazepam. SWIM swallowed the 1mg clonzepam and it had little if any "feeling" to it, however anxiety was gone completely and fairly quickly as well. SWIM was impressed with it's effectiveness. It is also good to note that SWIM did take her daily 2mg alprazolam that evening like any other day, however the effects felt much stronger... surprisingly so. So it seemed that a clonazepam dose of 1mg earlier in the day boosted a 2mg alprazolam dose (6? hours later).

So, with only those 2 experiences under her belt, SWIM recieveced a clonazepam prescription 1mg t.i.d. to replace chlordiazepoxide 25mg b.i.d. SWIM has had a hard time trying the clonazepam as she was habituated to the alprazolam 2mg each evening and knew she could count on it's effects. From SWIM's 2nd experience where teh clonazepam seemed to boost the alprazolam (taken 6 hours apart), SWIM decided tthat the best way to try out the clonazepam would be to take her typical dose of 2mg alprazolam along with a 1mg clonazepam tablet. Well, unlike SWIM's earlier experience, this didn't work out as expected, but rather sedated SWIM. So the point is that 1mg clonazepam taken 6 hours prior to 2mg alprazolam seemed to boost the alprazolam, while the same dosages taken at the same time proceeded to just knock SWIM out. SWIM's lab rat experienced the same results.

So, SWIM was able to conclude that these 2 benzos were not to be taken simultaneously, but rather spaced out several hours. At this point SWIM was no longer in doubt of the power of clonzepam, so for her next trial, 2mg alprazolam was replaced with 2mg clonzepam with the addition of no other benzo. There were no real "feeling" from this dose, but it left SWIM calm. SWIM woke up in the morning and the anti-anxiety effect was still present. So after having the script for 2 weeks, SWIM had used only 3 pills. SWIM decided to try replacing 2mg clonazepam with 2mg alprazolam again tonight. While the strong, but short-lived feeling of alprazolam was absent, clonazepam left SWIM feeling balanced. There seems to be less memory issues with a 2mg clonazpeam dose in comparison with a 2mg alprazolam dose.

SWIM enjoys taking the alprazolam more than the clonazepam, however each seems to e more suited for different situations and needs. SWIM will continue to compare and contrast the 2 medications taken at 2mg doses each. Perhaps 1mg doses even. The long half-life of clonazepam does scare SWIM though. Don't want to be under the influces of benzos 24/7 which was SWIM's major gripe with chlordiazepoxide.

SWIM's conclusions thus far are in agreement with many of the above. Alprazolam is the better choice for recreational use, while clonazepam is better for daily anxiety. Alprazolam when you want something hard and quick, and clonazepam when you want something to give a more subtle but none-the less effective effect over a longer period of time.

[poptilyoudrop]

SWIM had a 1mg clonazepam prescription and now has a 1mg xanax prescription, as is much happier with the alprazolam

[Steva]

Swim always had xanax 1mg a day.
Valium nice for calmness and muscle relaxant.
He just tried Clonazepam for the first time.
It lasts alot longer than the other 2 no euphoria just an overall relaxed feeling.
SWIM thinks all 3 would come in handy.
Xanax for intense situations
Valium for backache can't sleep
Clonazepam for general Anxiety so swim can reserve the other 2 for special situations.

[Laudaphun]

SWIM's opinion since her last post on this topic. She is beginning to favor clonazepam for it's prescribed use. While alprazolam is pretty hard to beat for situations where you need a heavy hitter, SWIM has begun to favor clonazpam as her benzo of choice when anxiety is an issue during any part of the day where she still has tasks to accomplish that require mental clarity. On the other hand, when at a social event where social skills are more important than math/academic/etc skills then the alprazolam is still her #1 pick. Keep in mind, SWIM is speaking of therapeutic usefulness. SWIM feels that clonazepam is just as effective at a mg for mg comparison at relieving anxiety and such, however it lacks the side effects of alprazolam (both the good and bad ones). Often the effects from clonazepam are not even noticed until SWIM encounters a situation that would normally cause her anxiety, and then she finds herself strangely calm.

An example, SWIM takes a clonazepam and notices no effects. SWIM then goes to the store which is always crowded and chaotic with people running all over the place and this typically causes SWIM either moderate anxiety or irritability. But then SWIM notices that she doesn't mind so much this time which is unusual, hence the clonazepam's magic.

Still, SWIM hasn't used the clonazepam enough to fully be able to replace alprazolam and is beginning to think along the same lines as the above poster. "They each have their respective uses and it is worthwhile to keep both in stock." This is of course taking into consideration that SWIM or SWIY is able to reserve use to an "only when necessary" basis as benzo dependancy is not a beast to tangle with.

However, if SWIM had to pick one to use for recreation, in a mg to mg comparison alprazolam would be her obvious choice. On one occasion, a single 1mg clonazepam pill taken earlier in the day seemed to boost the effect of a 2mg alprazolam pill which was taken about 6 hours later. Of course, this was an isolated incident which SWIM has not been able to repeat.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Echoes my sentiments almost exactly. Keep in mind that the effects are subjective and for some people the situation is ...

[delphinen]

Clonazepam vs Alprazolam? Clonazepam for sure. Alprazolam its too speedy for a benzo, and the SSRI effect of Clonazepam helps a lot with opiates combos.

[Laudaphun]

That's interesting, I wasn't aware of the SSRI effect of clonazepam. Guess I will have to research that some.... currently waiting on some new books that should have some good information. Despite taking loads of alprazolam, SWIM has only recently been able to obtain clonazepam. SWIM want's to begin taking less alprazolam and more clonazepam just because it is more beneficial for SWIM. Is it pretty much set in stone that "typically" alprazolam and clonazepam are equally as potent mg per mg?

[sterling77]

Originally Posted by Laudaphun

Is it pretty much set in stone that "typically" alprazolam and clonazepam are equally as potent mg per mg?

Yea this has been debated ad nauseum elsewhere, for all practical purposes they are equipotent.

[CrookedEye]

klonopins seem much weaker than xanax to SWIM and won't put him to sleep anywhere as easily...