Cold Water Extraction

[aqualad]

So SWIM used the cold water extraction method on some hydrocodone, and it was his first time so he was kind of unsure and on top of that, it was kind of a rush job. He used 8 of the 5/500 pills but knows he lost a few little pieces in the crushing of said pills. He then mixed the powder with water and put it in the freezer, and after waiting about 15 minutes took it out and attempted filtering. This was where SWIM did the worst, he had a wet cloth and poured it through into a bowl. The bowl caught a decent amount of the soluble fluid and the cloth caught all of the sludge.

SWIM is unsure of what dosage to take because this is his second experience with hydrocodone (first with extraction) and he thinks he lost a decent amount of the opiate. So the question is should SWIM drink the entirety of his concoction or attempt to leave a little? Should SWIM take some and see how he feels and finish as necessary?

SWIM thinks he has a little more than 50ml of fluid, though he did try to wring out the cloth a little in the spot where it was filtering. SWIM's personal opinion is to drink what he managed to salvage, but will leave it up to the fine people of this forum to decide. Thanks

[AceOvArts]

Hi mate, this is how my friend told me he does the CWE, he took 5 7.5/325 vicodin crushed up the pills. then mixed with half a small glass of water and stirred it up good. He then filtered the liquid through some coffee filters, he told me he got a good buzz from that. So your 8 x 5/500 should do a good job. Its a rush job too and you probably dont get rid of the rubbish and dont extract all the hydrocodone but it works well enough he says.

[aqualad]

thank you, swim is very excited and plans to drink his solution soon

[aqualad]

SWIM just drank the fluid with some orange juice (bleh ) and is eagerly awaiting his results Thanks again

[sammydaze]

What a coincidence, you're not the only one doing this tonight. How did the experience go? Here's SWIM's:

SWIM pulverized 5 5/500 in a shot glass. She then poured enough tap water in the glass to saturate the powder plus a little extra. The solution was milky. She let it sit for a few minutes and then filtered and discarded the gunk with a coffee filter. The remaining solution was still milky.

SWIM then IMed 4CC of the solution in her thigh and swallowed the remaining 4 or so CC. Onset was about 15 minutes and effects include a stomach ache, a headache, and mild euphoria.

Hope your experience was more pleasurable ;]

[Agamemnon]

ROTFLMFAO you guys and gals are too much,i guess thats why swim loves ya.swims gonna do a cwe a little latter today.no wet cloths here lol only coffee filters.no injections either as once swim used an animal distemper/parvo syringe to inject {it was clean}couldnt get a good one.the amount injected was way too much and swim thought about dying.nope not a good trip.as a matter of fact swim thinks the wet cloth was a much better idea.if any swim does find a need for a hypo and cant get a human one the ones they sell at the feed store for dogs ,distemper/parvo work well.they are new and sterile just throw the dog medicine away.it dont come in the shringe,its dry and in a small vial by itsself.just be sure you know what you got in the syringe as they dont have a good measuring system on the side like human ones.oh and the needle is like 4 times as big.plus after using one of those things swim needed a long hot shower ,but the feeling of being just butt ugly didnt leave for a few days.

[Agamemnon]

swim placed 5 5/500 hydrocodone pills in plain glass bolw .crushed them to fine powder using stele spoon.placed powder in small glass added dh2o.placed in freezer for 15 min.filterd though coffee filter into cup.looked cloudy.placed back in freezer for 15 mormin.filtrd again using clean presoaked coffee filtr.looked cloudy.said fk it and drank solution.swim knows this is sloppy.15 min has passed swim feeling gentle stirrings in stomach.swim sipping hot caramel coffee.waiting.feeling mellow,but not intoxicated.hmmmmmmm.swims starting to wonder if its even worth it.30min has passed.swim feeling mellow but know other noticable effects.swims coffee half gone.drinking coffee from regular sized cup.so say ingested 2 oz coffee.feeling caffine buzz.from the results of this experiance swim thinks roughly .25 mg of hydrocodone isnt enough.any suggestions would be welcome as swim doesnt want to waste the rest of his stash.......ty .....

[Agamemnon]

swim isnt trying to be a post whore and this may or may not belong here,but swim isnt able to edit posts and this seems as close as he can get to the right place to post this.swim was wondering waht tramadol was?he came into contact with a few of these that say 50mg.he may still have some and after taking 1 or 2 found that they seem to be a worthless venture.the next destination for the rest is the toilet unless some cool member could tune swim in on the virtues of them.

[Agamemnon]

swim is disappointed,hydrocodone seems to be overrated.swim injested 60mg and just got woozy.swim wont be doing that again.the cwe worked fine but the euphoria experianced by others was nil.any imput would be nice,dont know what went haywire.guess its tgtbt.

[kingkenny]

If you've still got the tramadol knocking about try taking 200mg if youve got no tolerance, or 300 if you've got some, it seems to vary a lot from person to person but SWIM enjoys it.



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[tangent1]

SWIM has no joy with cold water extraction. doesnt seem to matter how long SWIM leaves it. Anyone know of a better way that involves stuff easily available in uk?
As for tramadol...i reckon 200mg may be a little much with zero tollerance...but then SWIM may just be a lightweight!



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[IHrtHalucingens]

SWIM has done CWE many times with oxycodone wiht great results. He used warm water and dissolved all the pills, he used ~75 5mg percacets. He then put it in the refrigerator for about 1.5 hours until nice and cold. At this point he could see the acetominophen in solid form at the bottom of the bowl. He then poured it slowly through a coffee filter and rung it out so the only thing left in the filter was some moist tylenol. Then he rigged a hair dryer on low blowingon the oxycodone/water solution until all the water was evaporated. Voila ~375mg of pure oxycodone. He then took lines until he was content. Ended up doing all of it in 2 days lol "opiates rule" -SWIM

[Agamemnon]

thanks for the info swim was going toss the trams ,but now may just have found a use for them

[tangent1]

i should imagine that swim will try again using the method described. He thanks you.

[Agamemnon]

swim just wanted to thank tangent1 and IHrtHalucingens.great advice,combined with know how and honesty is a rare find.ty,peeps ty.....

[Agamemnon]

swim has just come across some info that may be of intrest.homotropine is added to hydrocodone to prevent the desired euphoric effect.homotropine causes unpleasant side effects and might be the reason for failed cwe.any info on the removal of homotropine would be cool.

[Agamemnon]

misspelling its homatropine,sorry.man swim feels like an idiot.

[Agamemnon]

homatropine is an alkaloid.so swim was wondering if after the cwe and first filtering a weak acid could be added to the solution.if this is appropriate how would one go about extracting the hydrocodone from the acid.

[tangent1]

It would seem to be hycodan than contains the homatropine to help with your cough and to stop you taking too much of it. Its a syrup i think. This is specifically for cough suppression. There are more than 200 hydrocodone combinations currently available so SWIY could seek out another brand.

[Nagognog2]

Homatropine hydrobromide acts as an anti-spasmodic on smooth-muscle - such as the lungs. The amount in Hycodan is very little, but can build up as the dosage is increased. But even in recreational usage, unless one is a full-tilt junkie, one shouldn't have a problem with this. In large doses, you would be looking at effects similar to atropine. To wit - Jimson Weed/Datura. Look that one up for further information. It's not a place many would willingly venture.

[tangent1]

Good research nagognog. would definately be an odd buzz!!

[Agamemnon]

its wierd,swim has done every thing right as pertains to the cwe and still the effect is not pleasant.hycodone seems to be a very ineffective drug.taken on an empty stomach say 60mg, has absoluetly no effect.no euphoria,no floating sensation,no drowsiness.it does'nt even get rid of a headache.this is clean medication legally prescibed and it's garbage.a peep would expect that medication prescibed by a surgeon would be better than aleve but its not.swim is getting to the point of dispair,the pain is still there and as far as recreational useage is concerned its not gonna happen.swim tells the md this and it to no avail.swim might be better off just exepting the reality of pain for the rest of swims life.major knee surgery,a massive tear in the rotator cuff and swim still works a hard labor job with no relief in sight.lol it aint a very cool way to go about living.swim hurts from the time he gets up to the time he lays down and then sleep is fleeting because the pain is still there.swim is tired,very tired hope someone can give good simple advice. swim isnt looking to get wasted,swim just wants to relax and feel like he did way back in the 70's when he was a kid and broke his arm and the doc gave him some stuff that made him comfy and sleepy and the pain was gone.swim hurts peeps,and was thinkin that livin was'nt all it was cracked up to be.swim is still a young person and just wants peace.swim isnt gonna do anything stupid ok, he loves his family.but swim needs help, the docs got the mri's they got the x-rays.swim has had cortizone injections and they dont give them out very often because they can actually cause more damage than before.the docs dont hurt so they dont care,they are in it for the money.swim can only get what they give him and it dont help.swim works out on a bowflex and eats a proper diet but the pain is still there.if any peep can help swim find a safe way to get pain meds that will work it would be greatly appreciated.please if you have reasonable effective advice post it.swim cant even get on or off the toilet without agony.it sucks.swim takes glucosamine,vatamine c,one a day for men's health and flax seed oil.swim cares about his body and is going though the doc's for pain relief but the stuff they give isnt worth a hoot.if you can help swim find a better way swim will take you fishing and buy all the beer.swim needs help not hard to understand jargon that just confuses.come on guys and gals help a fellow member.swim has abused drugs before he wont lie,but now it's a matter of a better existance. if you can help swim he would never be able to repay you but maybe just knowing that you helped another human being might give you a better feeling about yourself.peeps it aint about doing drugs and getting off for swim any more its about being able to get out of a chair and hug his wife without lurching around in agony first.damb swim hates to beg but the doc's wont help and this is getting refuckindickulous.help swim and help yourself by knowing that you aint a jerk and people still matter in you life.ty swims brothers and sisters for any advice and be safe.your true newbie Agamemnon.

[Agamemnon]

to make it clear to membes who might think that swim is asking for an illicit way to aquire pain meds this isnt the case.swim just wants info on how to obtain legal meds from docs that dont contain tylenol.swim aint trying to get anyone in hot water.

[critic_of_god]

swim bought a 32pack of nurofen plus from boots, crushed them all into a powder with a mortar and pestle and stirred into a pint of water at room temp (bout 20'C). he used a coffee filter over a large glass and poured the milky liquid through, however, the filtered mixture was stil very cloudy (though slightly translucent). after estimating the amount of ibuprofen removed by the coffee filter paper, swim worked out the remaining ibuprofen would still be enough to fuck someone over (with a stomach ulcer). the result was a wasted £7 and no high. does anyone know a filter paper/material that is finer than a coffe filter? the filter paper from a school lab would be ideal (almost 100% filtration) but i cannot find it anywhere, online or otherwise.

please let me know!!

[critic_of_god]

BTW nurofen plus is the best non-prescription source of codeine (12.8mg codeine/ 200mg ibuprofen)