Anal use - Benzodiazepines rectally?

[Sklander]

Originally Posted by wearestardust

Look, why all this talk about crushing pills and so on and so forth?
For twenty-five years anybody has been quite at liberty to ask their doctor to prescribe STESOLID RECTAL TUBES instead of diazepam tablets. Water-soluble, whatever. What th hell does it matter when as well as Rectal Tubes there have also been diazepam suppositories on the market for even longer? Does nobody bother to even read Formularies to see what is available? This complete thread, excuse my tone, has been an utter waste of time and space when all that was required was a note to the effect that anal diazepam is not uncommon.
NO. There are NO alprazolam anal preparations.
Stesolid tubes ensure that the diaz reaches just the right part of the arse to take advantage of the highest number of blood vessels, through which, via mucous membranes, it is absorbed readily.
And as I say, they are NOT UNCOMMON.
If folks would READ about the medicines they use then a lot of space devoted to nonsensical things could be saved and... Jeez, what is the problem with people who just don't take the time to read up on what is out there to be prescribed?
WAS

SWIM doesn't see his physician prescribing him rectal tubes just because SWIM wants to get high, and SWIM is not so sure how many rectal tube Diazepams he is gonna get for x amount of dollars from his buddy.

Please, be realistic. The thread was NOT a waste of time. Maybe it was a waste of time for you, but SWIM found it quite informative and useful.

[wearestardust]

Originally Posted by Sklander

SWIM doesn't see his physician prescribing him rectal tubes just because SWIM wants to get high, and SWIM is not so sure how many rectal tube Diazepams he is gonna get for x amount of dollars from his buddy.

Please, be realistic. The thread was NOT a waste of time. Maybe it was a waste of time for you, but SWIM found it quite informative and useful.

Hey, sorry, I was in a high state of anxiety myself when I wrote that.
But every word is true. Except that the thread is a waste. Of course it isn't. People do need to know things they haven't read before.
But why the first sentence? Are you going to tell your doctor you want suppositories or the Rectal Tubes because SWIY wants a good hard buzz from them? Of course not. You're going to go in there all innocent and say something along the lines of "My Aunt/Uncle/Friend also needs diazepam but they get it in such-and-such a form, not tablets. I wonder, since they tell me that it works far quicker and more effectively, whether you might consider prescribing me diazepam rectal tubes?" No need for SWIY or SWIWAS even, to mention that this particular method of administration does in fact produce a far greater BZD hit than the normal 10mg white or blue tablets. In SWIWAS' opinion, up the arse 10mg feels a lot more like 25mg. Like IV vials, 10mg/2ml, injected very slowly because of the huge risk of respiratory depression, also feel almost triple the strength of the tabs. BRASS IT OUT. BE NORMAL. A doctor doesn't know automatically that you are looking for a 'dunt'. The patient is merely looking for the most efficient way of quelling his/her severe panic syndrome.
No problems unless you have an arsehole of a doctor. There are legit online pharmacies who will, on receipt of the script, send them to you cheaper than almost any pharmacy on the street. Though I am not allowed to name them. Google. There's the answer.

Anyway excuse my mood that night. SWIM should have taken a couple or three Xanax before putting finger to keyboard.

WAS

[brandi29]

Butter gets valium vaginal 10mg compounded supp for rectally or vaginal use for pelvic floor dysfuction from a compounded pharmacy, but said oral use better than rectally. Studies show valium doesn't absorb well rectally.

[upperdecker]

SWIM put this in another thread with no response, maybe he'll get one here. SWIM wants to know what would happen if one were to just plug the pills whole, not crushing them and mixing them with water and inserting with a beater (whatever its called). What would happen if SWIY would put the pills up your anus whole?

[Micklemouse]

Probably been mentioned before, but a syringe barrel (the bit with the plunger, not the needle!) would be the preferred utensil, possibly with a bit of lubricant applied. As ever, for hygiene's sake one hit only, & no sharing!

[killagorilla187]

Do they sell things like this at local stores? How long should barrel be aswell?

Mucho thanks

[0utrider]

if swim wouldnt have any isop. on hands, could he use vodka, just a tiny bit, and let the whole thing sit over night (as decribed) for usage? or does it necessarily have to be evaporated? he is thinking about just a few drops of vodka together with some warm water and letting it sit over night
(he things of using "prazepam" where can't find solubility infos to, but it is often said to be a (bad) alternative to alpralozam)

[darkbreed]

SWIM just took two pills last night and stuck'em up his butter. One was 15mg midazolam, the other one was 2mg alprazolam. He has never tried this route before with anything, and he knew he should crushed them up and mixed with water and shot it in with a syringe or so, but as he did not have such things available nor any other good replacements he could think of to get it in there he decided to just shove the pills themselves in, remembering that they do that in hospitals as a friend of his once got some anal codeine pill which he enjoyed.

In any case, it did work, and the effects did come on quicker than they would when swallowing them. SWIM is a little unsure about how they will absorb and dissolve in there though, considering it didn't exactly seem to be very vet there to put it like that. Anyone can explain this part? Meaning, how exactly do they dissolve and how long does it take for them to be completely dissolved and absorbed?

Now it is the day after, and SWIM have to go poop. He is a bit worried that the pills will come back out though perhaps in smaller pieces than when originally put inside =)

SWIM will go to the pharmacy after the toilet visit and buy a syringe and perhaps a needle or two as well considering he got plenty of midazolam which is easily soluble in water and people have reported nice effects when IV'ing, and he will also get some coke, and would like to check the difference between oral, anal and IV administration of these substances.

This time though he will crush he pills up first and mix them with water and use the syringe to pump it in to the back door with instead of just slamming in the whole pills.

darkbreed added 25 Minutes and 43 Seconds later...

Well swims fear about the toilet thing came true =)

Out popped some white semi-dissolved remains of the pills first of all, they were no longer solid but not sure if it was remains of both pills or just one of them and in any case SWIM guess that is why he still feel "fine" today as it must been in there slowly dissolving and absorbing all night and day long (normally SWIM would have taken a benzo by now as it's already 6:30 in the evening and SWIM take benzos on a daily basis)

So I guess that means it can perhaps be useful for very long active benzo effect, but not so strong, if the pills are just shoved up whole.

[RaverHippie]

SWIM did this. Put one 5mg Diazepam up as far as his long fingers could muster. Checked in about 20 minutes and pill was dissolved. If you wanted the anatomical reason, along the anus are mucous membranes which secrete, you guessed it, mucus to aid for passage of....things. Anyways this same mucous allows things to dissolve, and are probably the exact same cells that are found in the nasal sinuses which allow for snorting.

[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

SWIM did this. Put one 5mg Diazepam up as far as his long fingers could muster. Checked in about 20 minutes and pill was dissolved. If you wanted the anatomical reason, along the anus are mucous membranes which secrete, you guessed it, mucus to aid for passage of....things. Anyways this same mucous allows things to dissolve, and are probably the exact same cells that are found in the nasal sinuses which allow for snorting.

I forgot to update on this rambling. I saw a strange note in the gutter while it was raining yesterday. It told me to write in this thread saying

"5mg diazepam inserted rectally as described above had absolutely no effect as could be conjectured from the information gathered in this thread and the person attempted the 5mg dose rectally should have researched it better"

[darkbreed]

Well last night SWIM tried another procedure, he crushed up 7.5mg midazolam along with 2mg alprazolam, mixed it well in hot water, sucked it up in a syringe , inserted the syringe as far as he could get it up his butter, then injected the solution. It was a 5ml syringe.

The effects came pretty quickly, and faster than when eaten and also seemed to be a bit different in effect. Somewhat more enjoyable.

Swim intends to try again now in a moment but this time with 15mg midazolam and 2mg Clonazepam, and a bit of alcohol as he read above that should help.

5ml seem to be a nice amount, no problems holding it in or anything, nothing coming back out, and no need to go to toilet until the day after.

darkbreed added 89 Minutes and 20 Seconds later...

Well there goes. SWIM just injected 5 ml solution of 15mg midazolam, 3mg clonazepam, in a mix of 2.5ml 35% alcohol and 2.5ml water. The crushed pills were first added in a cup where the alcohol and water were added, then stirred for some time until it was a white liquid, and sucked it all up in the syringe before going to the bathroom and plugging up.

SWIM feels the effects already coming on only around 5 minutes after.

[amylbj]

at the risk of sounding dumb, can i just put the bar up there, or do i have to dissolve it in water first. I just put the bar up there so i would kind of like to know quickly!

amylbj added 4 Minutes and 45 Seconds later...

this may sound like a really stupid question, but can i just put the bar up there rectally or do i need to dissolve it in water first? Would like to know kind of quick cause i just did it with no water.

[wearestardust]

The rectal tubes are an item which comes with a sort of plunger system; the trick is to get the thing at the optimum depth of the anus, quite easily done since there is a kind of 'bump' which is supposed to rest upon the actual anal entrance whilst the administration is made. Easy, and despite what one or two posters have said, extremely effective. Solubility in water is not an issue since it is absorbed through mucous membranes straight into the blood vessels.
WAS

[amylbj]

rectal tubes? again, swim doesn't want to sound ike an idiot, but what are ther and where does swim get them?

[darkbreed]

I think the only way to get rectal administration is in hospitals or when you have some serious problems like throat cancer that makes it hard to swallow pills. I might be wrong but that's what I've gained so far at least. I never had a doc prescribe me anything rectally.

[wearestardust]

Originally Posted by darkbreed

I think the only way to get rectal administration is in hospitals or when you have some serious problems like throat cancer that makes it hard to swallow pills. I might be wrong but that's what I've gained so far at least. I never had a doc prescribe me anything rectally.

Nah, Stesolid brand rectal tubes are available on prescription in most countries. Stesolid tablets, which have a reputation as being one of the finest brands of diazepam, are a lot more difficult to get hold of, being prescribed mostly in the Scandinavian countries and not available at all in the UK.
No need for a Hospital unless there is a section in your particular drug legislation confining its use to such a theatre.
As a MoI, MIDAZOLAM is only available in the United Kingdom in Hospital setting, and only in an injectable form. All Flormidal and Dormicum tablets must be imported privately, since they are non-prescribable on the NHS.
We are definitely Stardust.

[Vagisil]

ok, so swim decided to do this with 1mg of clonazepam. swim broke up the pill a little bit. but as soon as he put it in water, it started to dissolve quickly. swim kept shaking it and stuff. anyways. swim used an ear dropper he bought a while ago exactly for this purpose. but he thinks at that time he was planning on doing it with MDMA. never got around to doing that. so to get to the point. it worked. it feels like he took more then 1mg. clonazepam with him is kinda boring. if he takes too much, swim can't really walk straight. no euphoria or body high. that's why he's into opiates. but it feels like he did 2 or 3mgs. and he's calmer then before. so yay!

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[xxxSuSHixxx]

Swipf says "Swipf wrote about this in another post, OBVIOUSLY in the wrong section, his mistake, but for him 4mg kpin in 25ml water was VERY effective, wishes he would have added alchohol too, swipf held the mix in for 1 hour, and basicly it all absorbed, had a bit of loose stool a while after but was nothing to complain about, being he couldent even walk strait and passed out on the floor ((a hard wood floor)) and remembers nothing of the night, i really wish swipf had posted the other one in this thread, drats and appologies, but YES rectal is GREAT. Here is the other post for those who missed it."

xxxSuSHixxx added 0 Minutes and 24 Seconds later...

re: Clonazepam Recreational Use SwiPF just did this..... let 4mg klonopin dissolve in about 25ml ((5 tsp?)) of warm water, they dissolved quick with a bit of stirring, used a 5ml syringe, took 5 times to get all the water in, was easy as pie, not painful at all, awaiting effects, hoping its not just a drowzy waste like usual, wonder if a stimulant would be good to avoid the drowze,
will post again if swipfs effects begin to be noticable.... wish swim luck!!! BTW, this is swipfs first rectal admin of a substance on purpose for recreational purposes, one small step for fish, one giant leap for fish kind. time is 9:31 pm, has been about 5 min, anyhoo... will post again about result, i can thank all of sWiYous for convincing swipf to stick a funny tube up his ass XD hooray for sticking things in asses!

Manbearpig would make some really odd spam wouldent it? pork cutlet fleshy gamey bear burger anyone?

xxxSuSHixxx added 1 Minutes and 25 Seconds later...

Oh, swipf was wondering if the alchohol makes a diff in rectal admin, swipf dident use any this time but would be happy to try, is this... rubbing alchohol? or everclear? ((mwuahahah in my state everclear is of a plenty))

xxxSuSHixxx added 24 Minutes and 4 Seconds later...

there is no way swipf mistook recreational for rectal, however this may be in the wrong section, its 9:59, walking to the store,, 1 block away... going to spend 1$ on the keno machine and move around a bit, swipf would kill for a certain herb for this journy but alas, its expensive and scarce here. feeling very small effects so far. will post soon.........

xxxSuSHixxx added 22 Minutes and 6 Seconds later...

Alas the keno machine was broken... although swipf lost his dollar on a scratchy instead, feeling kinda mellow......actually kinda relaxed... may drop a few under the tongue after a bit... but the question... is rectal admin any better than other methods? yet to be determined....time is 10:22

xxxSuSHixxx added 10 Minutes and 11 Seconds later...

10:31pm, SwiPF is feeling pretty inebriated, humf... its quite nice really.

xxxSuSHixxx added 27 Minutes and 48 Seconds later...

on a side note: almost if not all the water absorbed, was expecting to crap out a bunch of liquid ((pardon how it sounds, but yep, its rectal, no other way to say what needs to be said! left it sit in there for almost an hour before trying to let it escape, you have no idea how funny it sounds to have SwiPF be posting on this topic, he cant keep a strait face, quite funny)) anyhoo, i am about 60-75% content with SwiPF's rectal experiment, it is totally suggested for swiAnyone to try, it's alot smoother and less complicated than it sounds, so dont be affraid, just stick it in SwiYour ass!
could it be theoreticly safer than eating the pills i wonder? or maybe the binders absorb into the anal cavity also... humf and humf... VERY calm now, even with a screaming baby screaming like screaming babies do... Experiment Success!!

xxxSuSHixxx added 6 Minutes and 42 Seconds later...

Also to add to this endless ramble of ass candy, SwiPF is drinking a mountain dew amp to combat the drowze, sad the amp is probably worse for you than the kpin...

also if this is indeed in the wrong section, feel free to move it ((and sorry if that troubles Swianyone to a large extent)), SwiAnyone needs to read these kind of posts before waltzing off into the realm of ... whatever something.

SwiPF

xxxSuSHixxx added 106 Minutes and 55 Seconds later...

around 12:42 2mg kpin was dissolved under tongue, and one rolly cigerete was laced with a very little ammount of kpin powder, ((yes i know this is pointless)), anyhow, SwiPF's GF say he is very calm and mellow. No euphoria so to speak but... just.. feel "ok" which is not normal for SwiPF. This is a bit off topic BUT its related to the previous post so SwiPF thought it to be alright. Swipf really hopes he is doing ok with the rules of DF.

xxxSuSHixxx added 48 Minutes and 45 Seconds later...

Definatley swim feels something... 1:42am

xxxSuSHixxx added 3 Minutes and 35 Seconds later...

i hope that helped someone, Swipf really wants to contribute to the site in a way that helps people, sorry he has been a spaz posting retarded one liners, it wont happen anymore. so to stay on topic, rectal is great, and would be suggested to even his mother. cheers.

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[abortive]

so a naked pill won't work as much as a shot with a rig? if so, fuck that...

lorazepam was decent, as was percs and lsd. but the thought of a rig instead of the actual original material is kinda messed up, if not worthwhile.

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[RaverHippie]

This is just a recommendation for another method of administration. There's no need to offer unnecessary negative remarks on a thread which exists purely for informational purposes. Also if attempting be sure the specific benzodiazepine is water soluble as some aren't.

[abortive]

i didn't mean to be negative. as i said after that certain admins would be kinda messed up, yet ultimately worthwhile. i also implied i have used benzos, percs and lsd in that way with just the naked form, no rig.

what about clonazepam? everytime i try to get one in a rig it clogs/jams...

i dunno, one member says the admin works fine, others say it don't.

SUNK didn't mean to be negative. as he said after that certain admins would be kinda messed up, yet ultimately worthwhile. SUNK also implied he'd have used benzos, percs and lsd in that way with just the naked form, no rig.

what about clonazepam? everytime SUNK try to get one in a rig it clogs/jams...

SUNK dunno about others experiences and methods...

SUNK took a naked 2mg up there and is pretty loosened up and feelin aight.

after taking 8mgs yesterday with the usual 30 minute drunk effect mixed with a couple energy drinks, SUNK's opinion rectal would be a good alternative in case you're runnin low. but it's nothing SUNK would do on a regular basis...

[dunn]

Just for the method my mystic moggy used...

She crushed the footballs/blue bettys. Set them in a mix of wine and water. Used an enima.. emptyed the saline. Let the bettys sit for a while stirring occasionally, the fill and emptyed far up rectum. Results were instantanous and someting to be treated with caution. 2mg with wine is plenty. -Dunn.

[Chrigel]

swim knows that there are special 10mg Diazepam suppositories in case that swiy would have an epileptic seizure or even not. swim could imagine, it would be like expidet pills for sublingual usage. In swims opinion it is very disgusting to push benzos in swiys anus.

[KaLiShNiKoF]

can you stick it in whole? or break it into little pieces? just wondering.. seems like a lot a trouble to go through just for maybe no different feeling at all...

KaLiShNiKoF added 40 Minutes and 24 Seconds later...

never mind, just tried it, used one of the old syringes, broke the needle off and cut off some of the rest with scissors. i dissolved 1mg alprazolam Xanax at first and tried it, went it well and nothing spilled, so i decided to take my last 1mg and dissolved it in hot water again and shook it up in the syringe, and took another. this was about 10 minutes ago at about 11:35am, we'll see how it comes on. i'll keep posted.

KaLiShNiKoF added 91 Minutes and 9 Seconds later...

much cleaner high, 2mg dose alprazolam, wish i had more.

[phatassone]

rectal administration of benzos is useless Unless you really like shoving things up ur butt, the oral bio-availablility of most benzos is so high any other ROA is pointless IMO