Anal use - Benzodiazepines rectally?

[IHrtHalucingens]

To administer a substance rectally, does it need to be water soluble? SWIM has no knowledge of administering anything this way, honeslty its always kinda weirded him out, but im becoming interested. To him it would make sense that the substance would have to be water soluble, much like snorting it. Is this true? or is SWIM way off? SWIM is interested in taking xanax in this manner if it would make for a better time than sublingually. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

[Pinkavvy]

Anything that can be taken sublingually can be taken rectally; it's the same concept and prcoess ... but the lining of the rectum is much more absorbant the lining of the gums.

[IHrtHalucingens]

SWIM wasnt sure if the rectum was more like the mouth of nose. But you cleared that up. SWIM is very interested in this now, he'll prolyl start off with 1-2mg and see from there. So is this much faster acting, since its more obsorbant, or is it just stronger all together? And how would he go about doing this? Is there an optimum depth? SWIM is completely oblivious. Thanks again.

[raven3davis]

Try it! It will definitely work but SWIM is unsure if it will increase the effects, and if so by how much. Xanax is already potent enough for swim, and cheap enough to not really care about increasing the effects. Now MDMA is a completely different story. A rare experience and definitely worth getting every penny out of your trip.

You should try plugging once just to see what happens and be sure to report the results. Be sure to stick it up to the second nuckle and dont take a dookie for about 30 minutes.

[IHrtHalucingens]

Of course SWIM could tak few ectra but SWIM wanmted tp try t save it and have as much fun with it as possivle. SWIM did 4mg anally along with another 2 mg orwslly as well as about 550mg dxm,. and smoked some weed called incrredible hulk and took one bonmg hit and was set for the reast of the night. The xnanx was definately more noticable than usual even at a smaeller dosages, i will definatlety use this method again. Swim is fucked up its even hard ot type.

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way to go. much improvement in your posts, keep it up

[raven3davis]

Damn what a combo! SWIM hasnever had incrediclbe hulk weed but thats an interesting name. Seems you might have found a good way to save your xanax. Honestly SWIM would rather stick his finger up his ass than stick a xanax in his mouth. Xanax pills have to be some of the worst tasting pharmecudicals! DAMN!! SWIM doesnt know if it is just the particular brands he has tried, but the 2mg xanax bars taste like crap. SWIM is guessing its mostly the binders and such because 2mg of xanax powder probably wouldnt taste very bad.

[IHrtHalucingens]

I dont knopw aboput that,. Just cuz i try new things without prejudice doesnt necceralilly make me gay and wanting other things ups there. This is strictly for scientific purposes. But if this the best way to administer its going to happen asd long as it takes for a new better method to apprear.

PS i think i have a little more self respect than to put anyhint more than a pill up there

[Pinkavvy]

IHrtHalucingens is right. Rectal administration is a effecient way to administer many drugs, and saves on dosage as well ... keeping your tolorance lower and your wallet fuller. It's also a noticably better high, cleaner, faster comup, etc. You should search the wine enema thread in the alcohol forum. :P

Cheers IHrtHalucingens!

[Richard_smoker]

Yes, once you cross the line, you'll be crushing up all KINDS of pills, measuring out RC's, mixing together with wine and whatever else, then squirting in and out of a 3-6cc syringe (without a needle). Then, once you're ready, you can lube up the squirt end, and carefully administer the tip into your shithole, relax, and FIRE_AWAY!!!!

As said earlier, just DON'T poop it out. Hold it in.

you'll be flying around the room in NO time. Just remember EVERTHING'S stronger! I suggest starting out this anus mania with 1/2 of everything you'd normally do, and please--wait until you're constipated or just don't have to poop for a while. you don't want to lose everything!

I know someone who went off the deep end, wanting to stick ANYTHING he could find up his ass and 'try it out'. He even started telling everyone (including his wife) that he was gay now because he loved it up the ass. (he wasn't gay. gay is when you like to feel another man inside there.)

just thought i'd throw in a word of encouragement as well as some caution. You're gonna want to tell the whole world that you love sticking stuff in your ass. But I probably wouldn't. Just look what that did to SWIM's life.

[IHrtHalucingens]

HAHA i dunno if im going to be running around telling people i like putting things up my ass. Most people wouldnt understand. here at least people realize the benefits of the procedure. plus its not so much the sticking things up there that i like its the effects that come from the substance that is up there. I used to be very apprehensive about it but once you try it its not as bad as you would think and is quite enjoyable. So from a first time tryer I WOULD recomend it. =)

[Herbal Remedy]

do you have to crush the pills before insertion or do u just plug them whole?

[Richard_smoker]

Crush, dissolve in water, squirt in anus. Now squeeze your anal sphincter until you don't feel the need to take off like a water-propelled rocket child's toy.

Obviously if you take a shit, you're going to have to re-squirt the entire contents of your toilet bowl. So remember that when you're fighting the urge to shit. Know that it could be a WHOLE lot worse.

absorbtion will be much faster and thorough.

[calmascanbe]

Swim broke down and tried clonazepam rectally. The idea of using less was overpowering. I had to try it and had no bang at all , but 3mg. went all day. My second dose wasn't needed. My next experiment will be xanax ,when possible.

[calmascanbe]

SWIM did it rectally again , but was a waste this time. SWIM took 4mg and nothing. SWIM's advice is to use the system occationally.

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by calmascanbe

Swim broke down and tried clonazepam rectally. The idea of using less was overpowering. I had to try it and had no bang at all , but 3mg. went all day. My second dose wasn't needed. My next experiment will be xanax ,when possible.

SWIM has also tried clonazepam rectally. It seems to take effect a little quicker and have a bit higher bioavailability, but that's about it. Could be its water-insoluble nature, although SWIM gets nearly zero effects from clonazepam no matter how he takes it (unless he takes 5+ mg or something... then he starts to really notice it). He's just been taking it for too long, most likely. His prescribed dose is 0.5mg twice/day, and he usually takes less than prescribed because it does so damn little for him.

P.S. one thing to try with benzos might be mixing some mineral oil in with the water the benzo is dissolved in. Benzos tend to be more soluble in oil than in water, so this might aid in absorption.

[kritikal]

Rectal is the best procedure.

I dont see why so many people are against it! It is another part of your body for gods sake. You can put something in your mouth where saliva comes from, you can put something in your nose where snot comes from, you can have sex with someone and be using "private parts", you can jab a needle into your arm where blood comes from.

The anus is just a dump truck if you will. The only stigma on this is because ppl see Rectal Administration as being related to being gay. The feeling of something going up there is not quite comfortable but with the relase of fluid one cant even feel it. The feeling can only be compared to going to the toilet.

I dont see how someone can burn there nose from snorting, jab needles in there arms and leave rails etc. But not Administer in what i think is the safest possible method next to Oral.

If you dont want to do it then i guess you are missinng out. People who have the courage to try the method basically agree it is the best. Call them enlightened if you will

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Very open minded and intelligent response

[tinman]

the idea of a rectal dose of xanex has great potental.the quicker a drug can enter the blood stream the better.plus swim wouldnt have to worry about the binders as swim is positive most asses are chock full of just about anything you can imagine.hell swim would be willing to bet a paycheck that some peeps have stuck whole potatoes and a bottleof grape jelly up there. just go to rotten dot com and you will see the proof.its gross but true.so go ahead stick a tiny pill up there wat can it hurt?fook who knows ya might even like it...............

[Sloop]

Swim said i dont know about this stronger in the date(rectum) concept, (but swims experience is limited to coke and coffee in the date). I imagine that the rectum is better with ingested drugs but not snorted. As swim has taken black coffee enemas (it seems to clear the liver! beleive it or not) and it seems to have a nicer buzz, stronger and faster and clearer than drinking coffee according to swim. I think this may take on into a new kind of coffee shop concept (perhaps in Amsterdam first though)

I write this in the Xanax section for swim uses Xanax when swim can to come down of coke,
Swim once had a relative abundance of cheap coke, due to working in Bolivia Swims nose was a bit on the raw side as a result of this abundance swim mixed a quarter of a gram in about 2 small but full syringes worth of water,

then swim took about a quarter of this, so lets say what would of been a strong line about 60 mg swim reported it took longer to come on than snorting and was slightly different in high, more stimulant, a little less euphoria swim thought and weaker than if swim put it in the snoz

Swim thinks the ass route takes your drugs to the liver first via the portal vein
the nose goes srtraight to the brain first, but a physiology student may correct this??

Needless to say swim soon had stacked the quarter gram in the butthole and was feeling good, but if swim snorted all that coke in the same half hour period swim would be feeling it was way too much and reaching for the xanax a lot sooner

[Fantasian]

SWIF commonly uses Diazepam (valium) rectally in combination with opiates to deal with acute chronic pain, it is very effective and has a very fast onset. SWIF will experiment with all benzodiazapines rectally at some point.

[Wraith]

now swim has a 50 cc syringe without the needle and is going to try taking the xanax rectally. now he has 4 pills of .5mg xanax. He plans on taking 2 orally and the other two rectally and the question is how far does he put the syringe up his hole? he does not mean to disgust anyone but is unsure of how far so it doesn't leak out? also how much water should he mix the 2 pills with? 30 cc's?

[Wraith]

Well swim decided to do a enima with the xanax. he first took one .5 xanax pill orally and then crushed up two .5mg xanax pills and then mixed with about 80cc of water until it was a paste. Then he got a 50cc syringe without the needle and got 50cc of the paste and injected it his anal cavity (stick the syringe all the way up to the 45-55 cc line). Then he had to do it agian with another 30 cc's to finish the rest off. It was a very quicker onset then orally and he did not think that 1.5mg would do anything to him but it did. He thought he would post this for anyone wondering and give it a thumbs up! Since he has been getting alot of negativity from the forum he figured he would contribute his experience.

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[jesusfreak666er]

how about valium? would that be able to be given rectally? Swim just procured 20mg valium and will give it a shot if someone gives him the thumbs up...

[jesusfreak666er]

very straight foward question, swim knows that valium isnt very water soluble but is slightly, so swim is wondering if one can administer valium rectally like xanax?

[Forthesevenlakes]

it would probably slightly work, and be more than slightly uncomfortable.

as an aside, and not a jab at swijf, but why are there so many recent posts about rectal benzos? did i not get the memo that this was now the cool thing to do?

[Micklemouse]

Yes it does work, & is used therapeutically for treatment of status eplecticus. How 'recreational' it is I couldn't say, although plugging seems to be an undignified but effective method for many things...