Adverse effects or laced?

[StigmataLectron]

Hi, last night SWIM got very high off of a dimebag, because he doesn't get to smoke that often (last time was at least a week or two ago). Even though the bag was split between two others, SWIM got some very nice effects, including opium-like feelings and closed-eye visuals, believe it or not. I'm guessing it's just because SWIM was reading up on the What is smoking Opium like? thread.

Are effects like this normal? SWIM could swear that there's patterns noticable in his field of vision anyway because of all the DXM and Salvia use, but how to explain the rush of opiates? SWIM just sat on the chair smiling, and feeling like he was going to pass out because he kept forgetting to breathe - something I've heard happens a lot on opiates. However, nobody else he smoked with experienced these, and in fact everyone else came down a long time before he did. Is there something wrong with swim, or is this something to be proud of?

[Creeping Death]

Either it was laced with heroin, or it was just really good shit. Since your friends have no reason to trick you into taking heroin, and then not tell you about it, it was probably good shit.

Opiates dont make you hallucinate, and strong indica stuff will make you feel kind of opiaty some times.

[IHrtHalucingens]

Sounds like good pot and an occasional smoker. Almost makes SWIM want to quit again for a while. =)

[sands of time]

What you described does not sound out of the realm of marijuana. Also, the fact that swiy has a small tolerance obviously had a big impact on the experience.

[Jatelka]

SWIM doesn't smoke much at all, maybe twice a month (if that). She can hallucinate like mad off 2 spliffs (less if she's had more than a glass of wine).

[Nature Boy]

Six of one, half a dozen of the other. The weed could have been laced but there's really very little way of knowing. I'd have to see and smoke it myself.

[Sickman]

Probably just good stuff and your low tolerance. When swim hasn't smoked in a month or two it's amazing how little weed can get swim nice and toasty -- a small bowl or even less.

[StigmataLectron]

I guess SWIM could assume that what he smoked was some really good shit in combination with a lowass tolerance. He got it from his friend who has some good connections, who got it from a very reputable and gangsta-type dealer.

I just didn't think that marijuana was actually hallucinogenic. Like sands_of_time said, although the high itself was distinctly marijuana, the effects SWIM felt in retrospect definitely seem like something stronger than marijuana.

Thanks for the replies. (:

[Man Choch]

When really high I feel as if I have some closed eyes visuals.

One time I had my eyes closed and was swinging through a really dark jungle on a vine. Or that is what it looked like

[Pinkavvy]

Just sounds like good weed.

[LucidDeathTrip]

SWIM has had many CEV's smoking weed. If he has some really good bud and closes his eyes for a couple of minutes... the possibilities are endless. Forgetting to breathe; that sounds like some intense shit.

[StigmataLectron]

Forgetting to breathe isn't much; SWIM forgets that it's a neccissary part of life when he's on DXM, occasionally on weed, on alcohol.. and even sometimes when he's sober. :/

[Hotboxed151]

That has only slightly happened to me, but from personal experience 2 times I have gotten a verry drunk feeling(Dizziness and forgetting what's happening). 1 from a dealer I really trust because he and his step brother are good friends with my brother, and the second time I didn't have enough money to buy a sack from a gangsta-type dealer, but he was a pretty nice guy and i gave him 7$ and followed him for the rest of the night and we smoked the sack and i got the drunk feeling again.

[hazeinmybong2]

Has anyone here actually had green they believed to be laced? I think it would be a waste of heroin haha. I can get some good closed eye visuals after a good session. I highly doubt that the weed was actually laced with anything. I also find that set and setting play a role in smoking. If i'm in good company our green friend is that much better.

[Senor Gribson]

Originally Posted by HazeInMyBong

Has anyone here actually had green they believed to be laced?

Around here, laced grass is all too common. Usually a dealer will have a bag of complete bunk and throw a little somethin in there so ppl will still buy it thinkin its strong stuff.

[chAos]

Originally Posted by HazeInMyBong

Has anyone here actually had green they believed to be laced?

When swim was young and didn't smoke much, once he bought new weed and tested it. At first swim thought the weed was just of very good quality. But later that evening things started to get really strange, he saw objects starting to move into eachother and he saw very intense colors, everything was blue yellow and red . Not like normal distortions in your vision because of weed, because except for the objects melting together and the colours he had a very clear view. Some minutes later swim had troubel staying up, he felt down, but didn't realize he was on the ground at first. Swim would see people comming to him, and he was asking himself, what is wrong? these people look strange, something later he understood he must have fallen down. Then someone helped him out, where he just felt down and wanted to sleep 1 meter in front of the bar, next to a very big window, so everyone saw that .

Swim doesn't know for sure that the weed was laced, but he never had such an intense experience on cannabis ever again.

[Sky Walker]

What is it that people don't get, marijuana is a powerful drug and can cause all sorts of crazy reactions in different people, there is no need to lace weed.

[dirty arab]

SWIM also doesn't smoke all that often so when SWIM smokes, he gets magnified effects

[SmokeCrystal]

Swim has been smoking for years, pounds of bud comprising dozens of strains from dozens of sources. He has only once smoked laced weed, and it was very intentional. Put simply, you don’t have laced weed, unless someone is intentionally fucking with you.

I always get a bit of a kick out of hearing a newbie talk about how mind blowing weed can be. I mean no insult; I’ve been there, so I know what you felt.

The craziest I’ve been witness to was when a friend tried a 3 foot bong for the first time; everything was fine for about 15 min, until we were standing on the corner about to cross the street going for a snack. I looked over and watched him close his eyes and fall backwards towards the sidewalk. I’ve never moved that fast in my life, I jumped behind him and caught him just before his head would have hit the ground. I carried his unconscious body a couple blocks to my apartment and laid him on my bed. I watched him closely and put him in a recovery (on his side to help air flow) position. He didn’t move or speak for well over an hour. He was sluggish and vacant, and stayed significantly high for at least 4 or 5 hours. He was able to get out of bed after about 3 hours. He said it was the scariest experience of his life, he said that he didn’t know who he was, who I was or where he was for hours. He remained abstinent for about a year after that experience. This experience gave us both a newly found respect for the power of cannabis. A different swim finished the rest of that sack with no undesired effects. Weed can do some crazy shit, in swims experience, almost anything.

There is nothing wrong your friend, but I suggest a through contemplation of any possible interactions which might be to blame, in order to prevent a repeat undesired experience.

[kritikal]

SWIM was a daily smoker and SWIM built up a huge tolerance. After quitting for a fair few weeks SWIM experienced just what u described.

SWIM often get visuals in the dark from weed now as SWIM only smokes rarely, after maybe about twenty minutes SWIM feels a rush aswell. You do become a bit more relaxed and often kinda forget to breathe.

SWIM has smoked alot of O and a good Weed Stone can bring on Similar effects to that of O although totally different highs! Best combination is O and Weed!

[lojzarb]

Weed is often underestimated. Though many many people smoke it regularly, including SWIM, it's definitely a very powerful plant.

One thing that makes swim a little upset is that not many people respect any of these plants which are clearly a true gift to us humans. Plants are stronger than you can possibly imagine... ever try Yopo? That shit kicked my ass so hard... just from three little seeds.

Yeah, I rant. so what.

[hazeinmybong2]

None of my buddies in canada have problems coming across good au' natural green.

[fatal]

Weed has made swim black out, hallucinate, slur my speech, made my blood pressure rise extremely, given me pins and needles in my extremities(from crystal), fall over, lose conciousness, robbed me of my ability to focus my eyes, and also off of hash cannabutter and headies given me this crazy state very similar to the spins with alcohol but with intense closed eye visuals. the point being that its a real drug and its very unpredictable. if you come across the right shit or smoke the right amount then it can really take you for a fuckin ride. it really also doesnt matter how much or how often you smoke with these effects. Swim was at a constant level of consuming about a half to full ounce a day between him and his friend for about two years and still once in a while would get caught up as is described above. the only honest way that i know to determine if something is laced is from the taste. you dont have to know what the taste is just that its there. when there are foreign substances in your weed you can usually tell that you are tasting something other than weed. just as a general rule of thumb also... buying weed from "gangsta type" drug dealers is usually a really good way to get laced weed. its usually better to not even buy weed from in an urban environment either. much higher propensity for there being unpleasant additives. swim has smoked PCP without forewarning before and it is an EXTREMELY unpleasant experience he says. swim thought he was dying very plainly and was overcome with hallucinations. this is where swim learned the hard lesson of not ignoring it when your shit tastes a little bit funny. actually this gives me an idea for another thread... to be continued...

[hazeinmybong2]

Originally Posted by fatal

the point being that its a real drug and its very unpredictable. if you come across the right shit or smoke the right amount then it can really take you for a fuckin ride. it really also doesnt matter how much or how often you smoke with these effects.

Of course it is a real drug, but it is quite predictable. True, potency can vary greatly but is usually fairly obvious to the seasoned pothead. Before you even buy the green you can tell if it is dank or shwag. Also who ever smoked weed laced with pcp with out tellin you is an asshole. I probably would have kicked him in the nuts just for not tellin me, even if i ended up likeing pcp(i probably would). No one is gonna sell someone weed laced with pcp with out telling them unless they want to fuck with them. No one is gonna lace weed because it is low grade. Why would you waste valuable crack, heroin, or pcp on some dirt weed?

[fatal]

Originally Posted by HazeInMyBong

Of course it is a real drug, but it is quite predictable.

drugs, by nature, are unpredictable and produce different effects at different times due to variable. variables like the individual, time, setting, tolerance, amount, etc. just because weed is almost always fun doesnt make it predictable. anyone who has taken too much oral cannabis can tell you that for sure.

Also who ever smoked weed laced with pcp with out tellin you is an asshole. .

i agree but it happens. he really didnt even know.

No one is gonna sell someone weed laced with pcp with out telling them unless they want to fuck with them. No one is gonna lace weed because it is low grade. Why would you waste valuable crack, heroin, or pcp on some dirt weed?

to make it more potent and charge more money. some people in urban areas actually get used to liking things like this. for example some people like pcp or coke(crack) on their pot. therefore supply and demand dictates that someone must sell pot laced with coke or pcp. if you run into a situation where you as the innocent pothead are interacting with a dealer who has dusted bags for sale and you ask him if he will sell you a bag he WILL NOT tell you what is on the pot. clearly this is an individual who is motivated by monetary gain and therefore he will not turn down the opporunity to get your money.