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Old 07-02-2006, 21:49
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Red face best drug?

any oppinions as to the best natural psychedelic around?
ie... salvia? shrooms? etc etc................
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Old 07-02-2006, 23:18
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SWIM would say his favorite natural psychedelic drug is peyote (or other mescaline-containing cacti). 'Shrooms come second, salvia third or maybe a few spots lower on the list.
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Salvia Divinorum is way out in front on SWIM's list

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Old 11-02-2006, 00:28
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Salvia comes in second to mary jane in SWIM's list, only because he's yet to try peyote or mushrooms. His day will come, though.
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Old 11-02-2006, 03:37
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Old 11-02-2006, 06:02
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#1) Mushrooms-So much fun with a mystical aspect.
#2) Marijuana-Best daily drug, good for anytime.
#3) DMT-Craziness, but not something to take advantage of.
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Old 11-02-2006, 06:09
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The BEST Psychedelic?
All of them are good.
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Old 11-02-2006, 09:10
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Best natural psychadelic is DMT. DMT is so powerful though and so much different than any other drug that SWIM just puts it in its own class. Besides DMT, shrooms are the best natural material. No needto extract the goodies either, just chomp away.
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DMT- Hands Down!

The only thing that beats DMT is getting your winky sucked while it's flacid during a 2 hour DMT binge.
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:11
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SWIM's top 3 out of the ones he has tried are...

1. Mushrooms (what can I say, they're just awsome)
2. Marijuana (same reasons as IHrtHalucingens)
3. Salvia (not something for everyday use, but fun to dip into every now and then)

SWIM does not know if he's ready for DMT but will try it sometime soon.
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:53
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Salvia

Salvia is too weird for me to want to do again.. I have a good 10 doses or so of 20x extract that I picked up a long while ago and haven't had the urge to do it again. I like watching other people try it instead and see their reaction. It's deffinetly cool, but DMT is much much deeper.

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Old 11-02-2006, 18:45
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Salvia is too weird for me to want to do again.. I have a good 10 doses or so of 20x extract that I picked up a long while ago and haven't had the urge to do it again. I like watching other people try it instead and see their reaction. It's deffinetly cool, but DMT is much much deeper.


swim can only recomend salvia and its mystical properties!
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Old 11-02-2006, 20:52
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SWIM would have to say Cannabis Sativa and 'Magic Mushrooms' tie for first place!
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Old 28-06-2006, 22:34
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Shrooms, ah, how swim adores them.
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Old 29-06-2006, 02:27
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No question... DMT! Just check it and assent!!!!!
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Old 29-06-2006, 05:02
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Salvia is deep, and intense, but sometimes it is too dark for SWIM to find anything useful out of it. It is very sinister and confusing sometimes. It will throw you for a real loop if you dont watch out. SWIM has been able to learn a lot from his DMT and shroom trips though. Shrooms have a pretty easy comeup which gradually puts for from sober, to out of your mind. DMT and salvia both have very fast and intense comeups. With salvia, it is hard to even remember what happened and often SWIM forgets he even took a drug.

SWIM is far out of his head while on DMT, there is usually a vague memory of an existance far far away. Salvia is completely dark an alien. It is definitely worth experimentation though. Do not under estimate it either.

SWIM noticed that no one has mentioned 5-meo-dmt yet. It is also a natural tryptamine that some people consider the best of the best. SWIM has not gotten the opportunity to smoke any, which is the preferred method of administration, but he would like to smoke some freebase one day. The effects are reported to be VERY BIZARRE.

If you rate ayahuasca as the best natural psychadelic you would have to give harmala and MAOIs their share of credit because DMT is not active orally without an MAOI. Anyone with experience with ayahuasca and pharmahuasca think that it is the best "natural psychadelic" trip. SWIM absoultely loves DMT.....it might be even better if it lasted for hours!
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Old 30-06-2006, 23:51
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SWIM would have to go with the traditional approach and say LSD, it clears the mind in ways nothing else can. DMT is incredibly intense, but the depth for SWIMyself is all visual. The completed trip only serves to show how far his mind can be taken into itself.

SWIM is anxious to try mescaline, but LSD holds a special place in his being for its truly profound conclusions that can be applied successfully to reality in numerous occasions, something that can rarely be said with any psychedelic.

It all depends on what state of mind one is in and where one needs to be taken to understand what one does not understand of the self. Each substance has its place, its purpose, and each should be respected and understood for the unique inspiration it provides.
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Swim has never tried Salvia it intreages him tho and he has heard of peyote and would love to get his hands on some. But first on his list would be mushrooms. Oh what a wonderful expirence he had on those. He told me he saw some clouds in the sky turn into butterflies and start flying through the sky. The moon and this tree he was sitting in front of was kinda crossing each other and it looked like the tree was blossoming the moon as a flower. He also told me he looked across the road and the houses on the other side appeared as if they were rubber. The trees were so awesome looking and clouds were just swirling around the moon like a vortex. This is also the only drug that actually seemed to have "expanded" his mind. Swim felt he had the answer to life, and the only time ever even when sober swim actually saw that he was going to make it through life okay. Swim remembers that trip as if it were yesturday. Swim recommends everyone who has a basic expirence with drugs to give it a try with some very trust worthy friends who have expirence in this field. He also recomends to be out doors at night. And he's talking about just chill out in your front yard and stare at the sky or out in the backyard. Try to be somewhere sucluded from alot of "strangers". Swim finds they ruin his trip. But not to far from home.

Now PCP swim thinks is intense. He enjoyed it until he mixed it with some THC. Then things got a little crazy for him. His heart started to race and felt as if it were beating out of his chest. But before the THC is was quite pleasureable but could understand why so many freak out on it if smoked to much at once. Swim thought he was spiderman at first, then it was a like a "charlie is in the trees" kinda ordeal. Cool expierence over all but swim suggest to use extreme caution when using. Along with all drugs of course.
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Old 07-07-2006, 19:43
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swims list would be

1) cannabis
2) mescaline
3) shrooms

but none are really better than the others.....theres a time and a place for all of them.and if swim could afford it that time would be now.lol.
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Swim really likes Amanitas Muscaria, though he would really want to try mescaline sometime if he got the chance. Swim used to enjoy salvia quite a bit until he had a few bad experiences with it. Other than that it is quite an enjoyable trip.
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uhh, yeah I didn't realized you said natural, if so than Mushrooms all the way!
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1. 2CT4
2. Mushrooms
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If its only natural:
1. weed (idk if this counts)
2. Shrooms
3. mescaline cacti
4. Salvia
(swim is not a fan of LSA at all... it is like a the bad parts of acid, but much much weaker...lame)

havent tried DMT yet, planning one soon.

if you are not limiting to only natural acid is between shrooms and cacti, and dxm is between acid and mescaline.... Swim loves the dXM!


Swim just had a trip a few days later after this post was orignally posted, a mix of 600mg dxm and 1/8 very potent shrooms.... hands down best trip ever... so now swim is gonna have to move shrooms to 1 and weed to 2.

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hands down, SWIM's answer would be shrooms. Terrence McKenna has theorized that the discovery of shrooms was a step forward in human development, since it could give people a sense of things larger than themselves. The recent studies swim has read about mushrooms being able to induce spiritual experiences seems to confirm this. Beyond just that, shrooms can be an important tool in analyzing one's self, behaviors, motives, etc., and the afterglow SWIM and others get from shrooms the next few days lets them see the world in a very positive light.

For man-made drugs swim would vote for DXM also, since it not only opens up different lines of thought he would not normally use, and additionally some trips had a strong sense of spirituality or religious overtones, as if he were communing with a higher power. and that was just at the second plateau!

SWIM also once had a mystical experience with fentanyl, but he's probably the only one that has, and besides, its not a hallucinogen anyway.
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1. Weed, if your gunna consider it a psychedelic, more of a cover all in swims opinnion.

2. Shrooms, shrooms are good fun and fairly I dont know, light and fun. Peyote is a bit heavy of a trip for swim,

Salvia, swim cant remember those 15 minutes

DMT, no clue, swim hasnt tried it
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