The initial "non" buzz

[AceOvArts]

Did you ever take a pill and 30 mins into it though, these are shit pills or duds even, decided to pop another and then almost instantly "BAM!!" ?
Its almost like a calm before a storm aint it, I wonder if the chemistary of the drug makes that happen

[Pinkavvy]

No, that's never happened to swim. Swim knows better than to take a pill not knowing what it contains, and then after just a half hour take another one. That's a good way to get hurt.

[StigmataLectron]

Yeah, that's happened to swim on DXM. Luckily enough, it was low-ish doses (from 300mg to 600).

[Nagognog2]

Originally Posted by Pinkavvy

No, that's never happened to swim. Swim knows better than to take a pill not knowing what it contains, and then after just a half hour take another one. That's a good way to get hurt.

Absolutely agreed. If the pill was PMA, made and marketed by some money-grubbing jackass, 2 pills could prove fatal. This has happened, and PMA is around. Invest in a testing kit - or at very least talk to people whom are known to have tried the same pill.

[pumped3.16]

swims first time he took 1,thought he was getting nothing off it so took another an hour later.cant remember much after that. lol

[AceOvArts]

SWIM has been very lucky in the past, he has lost count how many pills he has taken and though he has had duds before neither he nor any of his friends have been hurt or had any scares (and thats was taking silly numbers too). Swim used to goto all night raves and party till dawn. He has seen people in a mess before though, and seen the ambulance take away a couple of party goers. We never had test kits then though.
But I do agree you should test, or at least know your source and know people that have tried them. Its not a sure way to tell if they will harm you personally but at least its better than taking them blind.

[xpr´k]

Originally Posted by AceOvArts

SWIM has been very lucky in the past, he has lost count how many pills he has taken and though he has had duds before neither he nor any of his friends have been hurt or had any scares (and thats was taking silly numbers too). Swim used to goto all night raves and party till dawn. He has seen people in a mess before though, and seen the ambulance take away a couple of party goers. We never had test kits then though.
But I do agree you should test, or at least know your source and know people that have tried them. Its not a sure way to tell if they will harm you personally but at least its better than taking them blind.

For me personally thats the biggest danger when taking MDMA, if you start taking large dosages you'll lose your shortterm memory. Taking multiple pills in a short timespan plainly because you forgot you just had one but do remember your were planning to drop again is something ive seen swims do on several occations.
So far i havent seen anyone been taken to hospital though.

[AceOvArts]

Yes, with large doses SWIM has noticed memory loss, or rather more like confusion. SWIM says the following day on low doses are easy to remember yet on larger doses the brain only remembers "flashes". This is an interesting observation.

[Nature Boy]

I used to double drop pills. Bad idea. It's filthy.